Intake Manifold Porting Show ‘n Tell

[ChopperScott]

Speaking of plenum blend and match, here is the Weiand Track Warrior 7622 for BBC...

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[ChopperScott]

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[steve cowan]

That carb pad reminds me of a friend's Vic jnr off his BBC I did last year,had to take some material out of that thing .
Scott your finish work is as good as I have ever seen.
My stuff is rough as guts compared to yours lol

[mt-engines]

As many as needed for the application.

How would you know? How much data do you have from porting intakes, heads and building engines?

Your finish work looks nice, but 90 percent of what you are doing is cosmetic and doesn't contribute to overall power gain.

If you spend more than 6 hours on an intake, you're using the wrong intake.


That intake with a plenum blend and a port match will support 900hp

I've ran them out of the box many times in 750-800hp pump gas 496 builds

Just trying to encourage you that many times less is more.

How would you know? Have you tested any of my intakes?

90% cosmetic? What are you looking at?

I can spend over an hour per port while matching. If you're only spending 6 hours on an entire intake, it's no wonder your intakes aren't performing.

Fully ported, it'll support more.

Many times, you could have made more power.

I don't need encouragement when signing my name on a service.

I would know because I've been there done that. I've probably ported a dozen of that specific intake, and used at least that many out of the box...

I find it ironic that a year ago you start a thread to learn how to port intakes, then a few months later you are this guru of intake porting selling your services on yellowbullet and Facebook with ZERO DATA other than just bouncing a burr around a manifold.

I can GUARANTEE YOU, your intakes won't outperform. They will probably at best make the same power. . But youll have 20 more hours than necessary into them. You don't need to waste that much time period on the combos you have been bragging about.. unless its some all out deal, your pump gas 500" big block might pick up 15 from out of the box... the first 10 was the plenum blend into the runners, the port match was the other 5. The other 13 hours of finish work most likely nothing.

I could give you a part number on an oil pan that will pick up more than the intake work will.

But you would know right....

Many times I could have made more power? How would you know? You are taking this internet marketing too far. Anyone that has to peddle their services all over the internet cant find it locally or nationally because they don't have results.

And your hour per port just to match? I'd hate to see the bill for a Sniper Jr that actually needs the work.

I guarantee you the 500 inch engine doesn't need anywhere close to the area of gasket match you did.. period! But go ahead waste your time, charge less than the guys that KNOW what they are doing and talk down to them for trying to point things out. Be the hero, fully port an intake before its ever used so the customer thinks he wouldn't have made that much power off the shelf.. After all you know it all now that you are a big player.

Why is your engine such a pooch for what it is? By all the talking you do that thing should be 750hp... which it easily could..

[ChopperScott]

That carb pad reminds me of a friend's Vic jnr off his BBC I did last year,had to take some material out of that thing .
Scott your finish work is as good as I have ever seen.
My stuff is rough as guts compared to yours lol

The Track Warrior is the updated Team G with the same part number.
It is similar to the Vic Jr...

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Thank you. It's takes time and patience to achieve that finish. I'll hand sand up to 150 grit, before going in for final burr finish.

[ChopperScott]

How would you know? How much data do you have from porting intakes, heads and building engines?

Your finish work looks nice, but 90 percent of what you are doing is cosmetic and doesn't contribute to overall power gain.

If you spend more than 6 hours on an intake, you're using the wrong intake.


That intake with a plenum blend and a port match will support 900hp

I've ran them out of the box many times in 750-800hp pump gas 496 builds

Just trying to encourage you that many times less is more.

How would you know? Have you tested any of my intakes?

90% cosmetic? What are you looking at?

I can spend over an hour per port while matching. If you're only spending 6 hours on an entire intake, it's no wonder your intakes aren't performing.

Fully ported, it'll support more.

Many times, you could have made more power.

I don't need encouragement when signing my name on a service.

I would know because I've been there done that. I've probably ported a dozen of that specific intake, and used at least that many out of the box...

I find it ironic that a year ago you start a thread to learn how to port intakes, then a few months later you are this guru of intake porting selling your services on yellowbullet and Facebook with ZERO DATA other than just bouncing a burr around a manifold.

I can GUARANTEE YOU, your intakes won't outperform. They will probably at best make the same power. . But youll have 20 more hours than necessary into them. You don't need to waste that much time period on the combos you have been bragging about.. unless its some all out deal, your pump gas 500" big block might pick up 15 from out of the box... the first 10 was the plenum blend into the runners, the port match was the other 5. The other 13 hours of finish work most likely nothing.

I could give you a part number on an oil pan that will pick up more than the intake work will.

But you would know right....

Many times I could have made more power? How would you know? You are taking this internet marketing too far. Anyone that has to peddle their services all over the internet cant find it locally or nationally because they don't have results.

And your hour per port just to match? I'd hate to see the bill for a Sniper Jr that actually needs the work.

I guarantee you the 500 inch engine doesn't need anywhere close to the area of gasket match you did.. period! But go ahead waste your time, charge less than the guys that KNOW what they are doing and talk down to them for trying to point things out. Be the hero, fully port an intake before its ever used so the customer thinks he wouldn't have made that much power off the shelf.. After all you know it all now that you are a big player.

Why is your engine such a pooch for what it is? By all the talking you do that thing should be 750hp... which it easily could..

I find it ironic that you think this began only a year ago. This isn't my first rodeo with induction. My father started showing me how to do valve jobs and assemble heads, after school at the machine shop back in the late 80's. I've applied decades of knowledge, from education and experience, with my skills to experiment for myself. I was unaware of the niche in the market. People started showing interest, and it's been snowballing ever since. I'm not in a position with time restriction. I'll take as much time as needed. If you feel overwhelmed with your workload, you're welcome to send an intake to me. Then you'll have all the data you need. My phone number is listed in my sig, if you'd like to discuss this further.

As far as the 434 is concerned, I built that car to run 10.00. I haven't touched the intake. I didn't want to overextend my budget by going any faster. Don't need 750 HP to make the same torque.

[1980RS]

How would you know? How much data do you have from porting intakes, heads and building engines?

Your finish work looks nice, but 90 percent of what you are doing is cosmetic and doesn't contribute to overall power gain.

If you spend more than 6 hours on an intake, you're using the wrong intake.


That intake with a plenum blend and a port match will support 900hp

I've ran them out of the box many times in 750-800hp pump gas 496 builds

Just trying to encourage you that many times less is more.

How would you know? Have you tested any of my intakes?

90% cosmetic? What are you looking at?

I can spend over an hour per port while matching. If you're only spending 6 hours on an entire intake, it's no wonder your intakes aren't performing.

Fully ported, it'll support more.

Many times, you could have made more power.

I don't need encouragement when signing my name on a service.

I would know because I've been there done that. I've probably ported a dozen of that specific intake, and used at least that many out of the box...

I find it ironic that a year ago you start a thread to learn how to port intakes, then a few months later you are this guru of intake porting selling your services on yellowbullet and Facebook with ZERO DATA other than just bouncing a burr around a manifold.

I can GUARANTEE YOU, your intakes won't outperform. They will probably at best make the same power. . But youll have 20 more hours than necessary into them. You don't need to waste that much time period on the combos you have been bragging about.. unless its some all out deal, your pump gas 500" big block might pick up 15 from out of the box... the first 10 was the plenum blend into the runners, the port match was the other 5. The other 13 hours of finish work most likely nothing.

I could give you a part number on an oil pan that will pick up more than the intake work will.

But you would know right....

Many times I could have made more power? How would you know? You are taking this internet marketing too far. Anyone that has to peddle their services all over the internet cant find it locally or nationally because they don't have results.

And your hour per port just to match? I'd hate to see the bill for a Sniper Jr that actually needs the work.

I guarantee you the 500 inch engine doesn't need anywhere close to the area of gasket match you did.. period! But go ahead waste your time, charge less than the guys that KNOW what they are doing and talk down to them for trying to point things out. Be the hero, fully port an intake before its ever used so the customer thinks he wouldn't have made that much power off the shelf.. After all you know it all now that you are a big player.

Why is your engine such a pooch for what it is? By all the talking you do that thing should be 750hp... which it easily could..

If you don't think bouncing a die grinder works then go watch Chad Spire's videos on this subject. The 1st. time I tried an intake that I kinda did like his and it worked out great for me at the track a few years ago with no fuel puddling on the plenum floors or runners, it was the cleanest intake inside I've ever used. As for making not much more power porting intakes, you can test on the dyno all you want, but it will not tell you how the car will act at the track untill you make a pass with the new intake on the car, and that's were a good ported plenum will shine.

[bob460]

Some CLEVELAND BILLET madness!!

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[ChopperScott]

Hurricane…

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[ChopperScott]

Mayhem…

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[1980RS]

I just found out the other day from Chuck who's a friend of mine, he was saying his friend bought a "Tricked" out Trick Flow SBC intake form you Scott and can't wait to test it on the dyno. I'll let you know what it makes if he tells me. They were impressed with your work.

[WeingartnerRacing]

How would you know? How much data do you have from porting intakes, heads and building engines?

Your finish work looks nice, but 90 percent of what you are doing is cosmetic and doesn't contribute to overall power gain.

If you spend more than 6 hours on an intake, you're using the wrong intake.


That intake with a plenum blend and a port match will support 900hp

I've ran them out of the box many times in 750-800hp pump gas 496 builds

Just trying to encourage you that many times less is more.

How would you know? Have you tested any of my intakes?

90% cosmetic? What are you looking at?

I can spend over an hour per port while matching. If you're only spending 6 hours on an entire intake, it's no wonder your intakes aren't performing.

Fully ported, it'll support more.

Many times, you could have made more power.

I don't need encouragement when signing my name on a service.

I would know because I've been there done that. I've probably ported a dozen of that specific intake, and used at least that many out of the box...

I find it ironic that a year ago you start a thread to learn how to port intakes, then a few months later you are this guru of intake porting selling your services on yellowbullet and Facebook with ZERO DATA other than just bouncing a burr around a manifold.

I can GUARANTEE YOU, your intakes won't outperform. They will probably at best make the same power. . But youll have 20 more hours than necessary into them. You don't need to waste that much time period on the combos you have been bragging about.. unless its some all out deal, your pump gas 500" big block might pick up 15 from out of the box... the first 10 was the plenum blend into the runners, the port match was the other 5. The other 13 hours of finish work most likely nothing.

I could give you a part number on an oil pan that will pick up more than the intake work will.

But you would know right....

Many times I could have made more power? How would you know? You are taking this internet marketing too far. Anyone that has to peddle their services all over the internet cant find it locally or nationally because they don't have results.

And your hour per port just to match? I'd hate to see the bill for a Sniper Jr that actually needs the work.

I guarantee you the 500 inch engine doesn't need anywhere close to the area of gasket match you did.. period! But go ahead waste your time, charge less than the guys that KNOW what they are doing and talk down to them for trying to point things out. Be the hero, fully port an intake before its ever used so the customer thinks he wouldn't have made that much power off the shelf.. After all you know it all now that you are a big player.

Why is your engine such a pooch for what it is? By all the talking you do that thing should be 750hp... which it easily could..

Not to upset anyone but he is partly true. Intake porting doesn’t pick up near as much as you would think. After doing all the intake testing I have done it really only gains a lot(more than 30) on high horsepower engines, over 900hp. This excludes really crappy manifolds. Port alignment makes more of a power difference than porting a manifold. Porting certainly helps but it’s not like porting heads. Also people will believe they have the best manifold if it looks nice even if an abomination makes more power. Your eyes don’t necessarily decide what makes power.

[Tom Walker]

"Your eyes don't necessarily decide what make power"
I believe that statement to be a true axiom, airflow does not seem to be concerned with appearing intuitive.

[steve cowan]

Darren Morgan has said before some of the roughest looking ports as in finish have made the best power.
As said the shine is for the customer otherwise they would melt down

[HQM383]

...... Intake porting doesn’t pick up near as much as you would think. After doing all the intake testing I have done it really only gains a lot(more than 30) on high horsepower engines, over 900hp. This excludes really crappy manifolds. Port alignment makes more of a power difference than porting a manifold. Porting certainly helps but it’s not like porting heads....

Has this changed how you approach the porting manifolds, especially the time put into customers manifolds?