Marijuana is legal in Canada today.

This is an Admin / Moderator NO GO ZONE. You're on your own.

Moderator: Team

Post Reply
86_regal
Pro
Pro
Posts: 306
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:02 pm

Re: Marijuana is legal in Canada today.

Post by 86_regal » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:10 am

Here's my take on marajuana...

The people that don't smoke it don't do it because it's illegal and the people that do don't give a shit that it is.

Seems to me, not much is going to change in terms of its use whether it's legal or not, other than the state using it as another source of tax revenue.

RevTheory
Guru
Guru
Posts: 4999
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:45 am

Re: Marijuana is legal in Canada today.

Post by RevTheory » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:16 am

Well since we're going full-retard, let's just consider heroin use a personal liberty along with every other stupid argument that liberal Trump-haters like to throw around.

Your motives are clear, GRT.

GRTfast
Guru
Guru
Posts: 1366
Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:26 am

Re: Marijuana is legal in Canada today.

Post by GRTfast » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:17 am

The other big issue (possibly the most important one on this topic) is the staggering number of Americans who are incercerated for possessing a plant that is by all accounts less harmful than the alcohol drank by most of the lawmakers and legislators who locked them up. The US has 5% of the world’s population, and 25% of the world’s prisoners. That is a tragedy of epic proportions.

Firedome8
Guru
Guru
Posts: 4199
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:16 pm
Location: Pennsylvania

Re: Marijuana is legal in Canada today.

Post by Firedome8 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:18 am

RevTheory wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:58 am
"But this is the second year in a row where the IIHS found a troubling trend. A year ago, the non-profit group looked at three states, Colorado, Oregon, and Washington. This year, it added Nevada to the list. Harkey said the IIHS also looked at highway crash data in surrounding states to try to control for factors like weather and the economy.

The studies looked at police reports and insurance claims, finding crashes rose between 5.2 percent and 6 percent in states with legalized recreational marijuana compared to neighboring states where such use remained illegal.

The IIHS also conducted a street-side study of marijuana use and found something Harkey said he saw as particularly concerning. While those under the influence of alcohol tend to either be driving alone or with other adults, about 14 percent of those confirmed to be using pot had a child in their vehicle. That reflects the fact, he added, that marijuana use isn’t confined to evenings and other times when adults are more likely to drink — and abuse — alcohol."

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consum ... d_nn_fb_ma

In my opinion and personal experience (which apparently is worthless if someone disagrees), we don't have enough data yet to be making the jump like people are wanting and the data that we do have isn't looking all that great.

We've got plenty of states that we can monitor for awhile so let's cool our jets and see what a few more years of data shows.
Typical hypocrisy from the people who think personal freedom and liberty are being curtailed by the left. It is normal and not surprising.
Last edited by Firedome8 on Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:20 am, edited 1 time in total.

Firedome8
Guru
Guru
Posts: 4199
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:16 pm
Location: Pennsylvania

Re: Marijuana is legal in Canada today.

Post by Firedome8 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:19 am

GRTfast wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:17 am
The other big issue (possibly the most important one on this topic) is the staggering number of Americans who are incercerated for possessing a plant that is by all accounts less harmful than the alcohol drank by most of the lawmakers and legislators who locked them up. The US has 5% of the world’s population, and 25% of the world’s prisoners. That is a tragedy of epic proportions.


Yep.

GRTfast
Guru
Guru
Posts: 1366
Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:26 am

Re: Marijuana is legal in Canada today.

Post by GRTfast » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:21 am

RevTheory wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:16 am
Well since we're going full-retard, let's just consider heroin use a personal liberty along with every other stupid argument that liberal Trump-haters like to throw around.

Your motives are clear, GRT.
That’s not an apples to apples comparison and you know it. Your motives are clear, and they are driven by the propaganda that has been pounded into your head, along with the authoritarian mindset you hold so near and dear.

Heroin kills tens of thousands of people per year, is crazy addictive (driving people to criminal activities to obtain it), and has almost zero tangible benefits... kinda like alcohol.

GRTfast
Guru
Guru
Posts: 1366
Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:26 am

Re: Marijuana is legal in Canada today.

Post by GRTfast » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:23 am

86_regal wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:10 am
Here's my take on marajuana...

The people that don't smoke it don't do it because it's illegal and the people that do don't give a shit that it is.

Seems to me, not much is going to change in terms of its use whether it's legal or not, other than the state using it as another source of tax revenue.
And hundreds of thousands of people won’t be locked in a cage each year for possessing it.

j-c-c
Guru
Guru
Posts: 4269
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:03 pm

Re: Marijuana is legal in Canada today.

Post by j-c-c » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:29 am

Firedome8 wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:19 am
GRTfast wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:17 am
The other big issue (possibly the most important one on this topic) is the staggering number of Americans who are incercerated for possessing a plant that is by all accounts less harmful than the alcohol drank by most of the lawmakers and legislators who locked them up. The US has 5% of the world’s population, and 25% of the world’s prisoners. That is a tragedy of epic proportions.
Yep.
I Called that #8, although "GMsomebody" calls it #U. :lol:

RevTheory
Guru
Guru
Posts: 4999
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:45 am

Re: Marijuana is legal in Canada today.

Post by RevTheory » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:38 am

Boy, that sure did it :lol:

All I did was draw from my own experiences, look at some of the limited data that's coming out and suggest that perhaps we exercise a little caution but that's never allowed in the twisted world of progressive/liberal ideology.

86_regal
Pro
Pro
Posts: 306
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:02 pm

Re: Marijuana is legal in Canada today.

Post by 86_regal » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:44 am

Firedome8 wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:18 am
RevTheory wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:58 am
"But this is the second year in a row where the IIHS found a troubling trend. A year ago, the non-profit group looked at three states, Colorado, Oregon, and Washington. This year, it added Nevada to the list. Harkey said the IIHS also looked at highway crash data in surrounding states to try to control for factors like weather and the economy.

The studies looked at police reports and insurance claims, finding crashes rose between 5.2 percent and 6 percent in states with legalized recreational marijuana compared to neighboring states where such use remained illegal.

The IIHS also conducted a street-side study of marijuana use and found something Harkey said he saw as particularly concerning. While those under the influence of alcohol tend to either be driving alone or with other adults, about 14 percent of those confirmed to be using pot had a child in their vehicle. That reflects the fact, he added, that marijuana use isn’t confined to evenings and other times when adults are more likely to drink — and abuse — alcohol."

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consum ... d_nn_fb_ma

In my opinion and personal experience (which apparently is worthless if someone disagrees), we don't have enough data yet to be making the jump like people are wanting and the data that we do have isn't looking all that great.

We've got plenty of states that we can monitor for awhile so let's cool our jets and see what a few more years of data shows.
Typical hypocrisy from the people who think personal freedom and liberty are being curtailed by the left. It is normal and not surprising.
TRUTH BOMB!!!

86_regal
Pro
Pro
Posts: 306
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:02 pm

Re: Marijuana is legal in Canada today.

Post by 86_regal » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:54 am

GRTfast wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:23 am
86_regal wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:10 am
Here's my take on marajuana...

The people that don't smoke it don't do it because it's illegal and the people that do don't give a shit that it is.

Seems to me, not much is going to change in terms of its use whether it's legal or not, other than the state using it as another source of tax revenue.
And hundreds of thousands of people won’t be locked in a cage each year for possessing it.
True.

RevTheory
Guru
Guru
Posts: 4999
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:45 am

Re: Marijuana is legal in Canada today.

Post by RevTheory » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:58 am

You lefties are completely incapable of rational thought or even a civil exchange of opinions.

j-c-c
Guru
Guru
Posts: 4269
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:03 pm

Re: Marijuana is legal in Canada today.

Post by j-c-c » Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:00 am

RevTheory wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:58 am
You lefties are completely incapable of rational thought or even a civil exchange of opinions.
And this is your example of civil discourse and rational shared thought?

Impressive. =D>

RevTheory
Guru
Guru
Posts: 4999
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:45 am

Re: Marijuana is legal in Canada today.

Post by RevTheory » Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:21 am

Well, on a positive note, if legalized weed sucks the motivation out of these poor, young kids who've lost all ability of free thought due to ridiculous, mind-numbing, progressive/liberal indoctrination to go vote, I'd call it a win for America :mrgreen:

86_regal
Pro
Pro
Posts: 306
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:02 pm

Re: Marijuana is legal in Canada today.

Post by 86_regal » Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:27 am

I just don't see the justification in criminalizing most ANY drug. Particularly if it's justified on the basis of its effects on you, your loved ones, and "society".
In PRINCIPLE, how is it any different than making it illegal to be late for work? Or not paying your utility bill by its due date? Or infidelity?

To any rational person, aren't the effects of using drugs (dependency issues, job loss, loss of lifestyle, imposition of support from family and friends, loss of family and friends) enough of a deterrent?
To those acting irrationally and not considering or ignoring such effects, maybe for those people we should just pass a law against irrationality???

Using Alcohol Prohibition as Case Study
There was a much greater benefit to the state through the propagation of organized crime, "neccesitating" more Enforcement Agency resources, Prisons & more work for the legal profession than the virtually non-existent reduction of its use.

Post Reply