sleeving 409 w block
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sleeving 409 w block
i have a 409 w block with crack in cylinder all. this is not high HP but a resto project any tips or suggestions?
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Re: sleeving 409 w block
Sleeve it but make sure that whoever does the job is very well versed in sleeve work, with the deck angle this job can go really well or really bad! If done right no problem.
Craig.
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Straight forward deal, plus the deck needs to be addressed....best to square both decks when you sleeve one side.
Passenger car block or truck block (valve notch in the bore)?
Passenger car block or truck block (valve notch in the bore)?
Re: sleeving 409 w block
Expect to pay 2X the money because the W-block is a pain to square deck.
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Re: sleeving 409 w block
Is it a pain in the ass because the shop needs set up equipment differently or some other reason?
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Re: sleeving 409 w block
The deck is not at 90* to the cylinder like most engines.
http://www.bhjproducts.com/bhj_content/ ... bt1_v6.php
Craig.
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I know that...So is that a big deal because of set up time or?cjperformance wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:12 amThe deck is not at 90* to the cylinder like most engines.
http://www.bhjproducts.com/bhj_content/ ... bt1_v6.php
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I think that's fair pricing....that's around what I paid.
I was happy to pass over the folding money.
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Re: sleeving 409 w block
Sorry i didnt know you knew. But yes more setup time, more investmemt in tooling, and a little more skill required than a straight forward 90* deck deal due to the sleeve entering one edge before the otherTruckedup wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:44 amI know that...So is that a big deal because of set up time or?cjperformance wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:12 amThe deck is not at 90* to the cylinder like most engines.
http://www.bhjproducts.com/bhj_content/ ... bt1_v6.php
Craig.
Re: sleeving 409 w block
Just to make the W-engine deck flat is the same cost as any regular V8. To get both decks square to the crank and at the correct angles to each other is a big PITA. Many of us use the BHJ fixture in the surfacer to set to 90 degrees. Since the W-engine decks are at angle, it requires an adapter from BHJ, plus more setup time.
When a sleeve is installed, cutting off the excess is another PITA and if it's a truck block, cutting the matching recess is a double PITA.
When a sleeve is installed, cutting off the excess is another PITA and if it's a truck block, cutting the matching recess is a double PITA.
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Re: sleeving 409 w block
I've done a few, think we added maybe another hundred bucks for the trouble of cutting the angled deck and valve relief.
Re: sleeving 409 w block
Jack, do you mean PITA literally or just saying it's more work? I always thought machinists liked the challenge, and money, of something different than pounding out SBC'S ...PackardV8 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:30 pm Just to make the W-engine deck flat is the same cost as any regular V8. To get both decks square to the crank and at the correct angles to each other is a big PITA. Many of us use the BHJ fixture in the surfacer to set to 90 degrees. Since the W-engine decks are at angle, it requires an adapter from BHJ, plus more setup time.
When a sleeve is installed, cutting off the excess is another PITA and if it's a truck block, cutting the matching recess is a double PITA.
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