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A dream part you wish for!

Post by 427dart » Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:38 am

What engine part would you like to have that isn't available...yet?

Mine would be a pair of Holley type 4160 carbs with double pump mechanical secondaries so I can maintain my dual inline Holley setup.
Now don't mention using the extended primary squirter tube or crazy carb adapters to space out the carbs for 4150 DP carbs!

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Re: A dream part you wish for!

Post by Frankshaft » Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:01 am

I never liked inline holleys, it really complicates jet changes.

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Re: A dream part you wish for!

Post by 427dart » Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:28 am

Frankshaft wrote:
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I never liked inline holleys, it really complicates jet changes.
Not much trouble with that ONCE you get them dialed in for street use. Mine run really well and the only issue can be when running with a light secondary spring the secondaries can crack open during mild accel and cause a slow return to idle until the primary linkage is down to idle.
My engine setup likes a quick opening on the vac. secondary with the 650's and there is no bog.

Of course don't expect much new with old school carbs as it's young guys at Holley now driving the ship and it's all EFI now.
I'll take my carbs over any EFI for a hot rod setup.

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Re: A dream part you wish for!

Post by Casper393W » Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:03 pm

427dart wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:28 am
Frankshaft wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:01 am
I never liked inline holleys, it really complicates jet changes.
Not much trouble with that ONCE you get them dialed in for street use. Mine run really well and the only issue can be when running with a light secondary spring the secondaries can crack open during mild accel and cause a slow return to idle until the primary linkage is down to idle.
My engine setup likes a quick opening on the vac. secondary with the 650's and there is no bog.

Of course don't expect much new with old school carbs as it's young guys at Holley now driving the ship and it's all EFI now.
I'll take my carbs over any EFI for a hot rod setup.

Brother I'm with you....in a age where everything fast has EFI and Turbo(s) I am 39 years old and completely old school...I don't know which messes with people more...the fact I have a tunnel ram with 2 four's.. or the fact that I can tune it to be more docile than most other hot rods with alot less radical combos

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Re: A dream part you wish for!

Post by Frankshaft » Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:05 pm

427dart wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:28 am
Frankshaft wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:01 am
I never liked inline holleys, it really complicates jet changes.
Not much trouble with that ONCE you get them dialed in for street use. Mine run really well and the only issue can be when running with a light secondary spring the secondaries can crack open during mild accel and cause a slow return to idle until the primary linkage is down to idle.
My engine setup likes a quick opening on the vac. secondary with the 650's and there is no bog.

Of course don't expect much new with old school carbs as it's young guys at Holley now driving the ship and it's all EFI now.
I'll take my carbs over any EFI for a hot rod setup.
I don't know if its possible, but I have seen some of those carbs that had the provision for a secondary squirter, but weren't drilled. Maybe you could convert them. The other thing, 4160 as in no secondary metering block and side hung single feed float bowls, like a 1850 600 vac secondary carb? You can use the side hung float bowls on a 4150 "double pump" carb, and use a metering plate. I know quick fuel sells a metering plate with changeable jets. I have also converted 4160 carbs with side hung single feed float bowls, and metering plates, to center hung float bowls with secondary metering blocks. Just do the opposite with a double pumper. Then you can keep all your fuel lines and linkage. I am assuming that's what your talking about?

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Re: A dream part you wish for!

Post by CGT » Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:14 pm

180ish or so High port 15 degree SBC head, something that's small enough that it could be made the right size for a 350-383 street/strip kinda thing......and a nicely layed out "small" single plane to go with it. Something that doesn't resemble a LS chamber or port in any way. :lol:
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Re: A dream part you wish for!

Post by englertracing » Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:52 pm

A turbocharger with an electric motor powerful enough to spool to max boost at idle, then fade out as exhaust gas energy takes over.
Could be engine driven too like a pro charger with a sprag and an exhaust turbine.

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Re: A dream part you wish for!

Post by Tuner » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:41 pm

A draw-through centrifugal supercharger integral in an intake manifold, rotational axis vertical, vertical inlet on top a carb flange, multiple horizontal exits from the exducer to the intake ports. LIke the centrifugal supercharger on a radial aircraft engine, but rotated 90 deg. on top of a V-8.

It would be nice to have a seal arrangement that would allow using draw-through carburetion on existing centrifugal superchargers

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Re: A dream part you wish for!

Post by statsystems » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:18 pm

Tuner wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:41 pm
A draw-through centrifugal supercharger integral in an intake manifold, rotational axis vertical, vertical inlet on top a carb flange, multiple horizontal exits from the exducer to the intake ports. LIke the centrifugal supercharger on a radial aircraft engine, but rotated 90 deg. on top of a V-8.

It would be nice to have a seal arrangement that would allow using draw-through carburetion on existing centrifugal superchargers

How would you fit all that under the hood????

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Re: A dream part you wish for!

Post by Big Al » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:43 pm

An aftermarket ECU that can handle MAF and an 1000bhp aftermarket MAF to that.

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Re: A dream part you wish for!

Post by paulzig » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:01 pm

Electronically controlled valvetrain, you just program in the valve path and you can have whatever cam you want that wont hit the piston.

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Re: A dream part you wish for!

Post by bigblockmopar » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:02 pm

Intake manifold, heads and exhaust that change port size, length, shape and surface texture all when the current rpm/load situation needs it best...

Alright I know, I'll keep dreamin'...

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Re: A dream part you wish for!

Post by Tuner » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:23 pm

statsystems wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:18 pm
Tuner wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:41 pm
A draw-through centrifugal supercharger integral in an intake manifold, rotational axis vertical, vertical inlet on top a carb flange, multiple horizontal exits from the exducer to the intake ports. LIke the centrifugal supercharger on a radial aircraft engine, but rotated 90 deg. on top of a V-8.

It would be nice to have a seal arrangement that would allow using draw-through carburetion on existing centrifugal superchargers
How would you fit all that under the hood????
The impeller circumference located on the horizontal plane of the intake ports so the exducer is in line with the ports, each port exiting individually from the exducer, like a radial aircraft engine supercharger. Drive it from underneath with a shaft in the valley parallel with and above the cam.

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A dream part you wish for!

Post by Mike Laws » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:39 pm

As a carb-guy: This device is outstanding: https://www.knfilters.com/eci

Paired with a twin blade carburetor is the dream combination.
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Re: A dream part you wish for!

Post by user-23911 » Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:04 pm

Big Al wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:43 pm
An aftermarket ECU that can handle MAF and an 1000bhp aftermarket MAF to that.

It's called a bypass........already been done.

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