Trump Is Not a Target and That’s Big: Game over? (John Podhoretz)

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Trump Is Not a Target and That’s Big: Game over? (John Podhoretz)

Post by 1989TransAm » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:43 am

"The Washington Post reports tonight: “Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III informed President Trump’s attorneys last month that he is continuing to investigate the president but does not consider him a criminal target at this point, according to three people familiar with the discussions.” You’re going to hear a lot about this story, and much of what you hear is going to focus on its secondary details. Among them, that Mueller is reportedly thinking of writing separate reports about the various charges and those reports could be very damaging.

Do not be misled.

Yes, the story goes on to say that he might become a target later. But Mueller has been at this now for nine months with an aggressive staff. He has issued indictments of various figures and might be going after others. So telling Trump that he’s not a target is a very big deal."

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/poli ... t-mueller/

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Re: Trump Is Not a Target and That’s Big: Game over? (John Podhoretz)

Post by sanfordandson » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:52 am

The Special Counsel also has "the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses"
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Re: Trump Is Not a Target and That’s Big: Game over? (John Podhoretz)

Post by mk e » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:31 am

1989TransAm wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:43 am
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Do not be misled.
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Perhaps you should take that advise. This is pretty bad news for Rump and the reason his lead laywer quit.

You're right they've been at it a while, but to get to the top in JUST 9 months is really fast and they would not be asking to speak to the frikin President if they couldn't show more than just cause. Based on whats come out, it's almost impossible that Rump leaves the interview as a subject not a target.....unless he claims the 5th and doesn't show up, then he will also become a target ......he's in a lot of trouble.
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Re: Trump Is Not a Target and That’s Big: Game over? (John Podhoretz)

Post by rebelrouser » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:55 pm

Subjects can become targets very quickly, like after a bad interview, I don't think Trump remembers the truth, let alone being able to testify truthfully about the events Mueller wants to know about. Not sure if Mueller will have enough to indict Trump for criminal actions and a trial, but there is already enough public info from the investigation, to impeach him, which is more of a political trial, not a legal one. Trumps future as president mainly hangs on the outcome of the midterm elections, if the democrats take control of house and senate, I see an impeachment for Trump. If Democrats do not win control, he might manage to hang on to the end of his term. I could be wrong but I just don't think the Republicans will stand behind him for a run for another 4 years. I look for the Mueller investigation to wrap up right before or right after the mid term elections.

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Re: Trump Is Not a Target and That’s Big: Game over? (John Podhoretz)

Post by engineczar » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:14 pm

rebelrouser wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:55 pm
but there is already enough public info from the investigation, to impeach him,
Such as what? Impeachment requires high crimes which there is no evidence of not dislike by the opposing political party. Obstruction of justice is just a fabrication by the media to push a narrative where there is none.

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Re: Trump Is Not a Target and That’s Big: Game over? (John Podhoretz)

Post by mk e » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:59 pm

rebelrouser wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:55 pm
Trumps future as president mainly hangs on the outcome of the midterm elections....
Nah, it's about his poll numbers, above 35 and he's safe, below 25 and he's out, in between it depends on which party has how many seats house and Senate.

So while his base remains loyal he's safe until 2020, hell probably get neutered in the midterms, but he'll still have the office.
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Re: Trump Is Not a Target and That’s Big: Game over? (John Podhoretz)

Post by mk e » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:02 pm

engineczar wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:14 pm

Such as what? Impeachment requires high crimes which there is no evidence of not dislike by the opposing political party. Obstruction of justice is just a fabrication by the media to push a narrative where there is none.
High crimes like lying about letting an intern suck your weeny?

Impeachment is a political process, and obstruction is a convienent charge to use. The house might impeach in 2019 but the Senate almost certainly won't convict....unless his numbers drop below about 25
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Re: Trump Is Not a Target and That’s Big: Game over? (John Podhoretz)

Post by engineczar » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:23 pm

The media quotes from this piece are full blown TDS


http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/38 ... nal-target

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Re: Trump Is Not a Target and That’s Big: Game over? (John Podhoretz)

Post by 1989TransAm » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:59 pm

Personally I think Mueller still has President Trump as his main target.

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Re: Trump Is Not a Target and That’s Big: Game over? (John Podhoretz)

Post by dirtracr5 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:49 pm

1989TransAm wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:59 pm
Personally I think Mueller still has President Trump as his main target.
I personally think he will go wherever it leads him.

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Re: Trump Is Not a Target and That’s Big: Game over? (John Podhoretz)

Post by 1989TransAm » Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:18 pm

dirtracr5 wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:49 pm
1989TransAm wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:59 pm
Personally I think Mueller still has President Trump as his main target.
I personally think he will go wherever it leads him.
He does not need leads or evidence. This is a witch hunt. If they needed evidence there would not be an investigation.

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Re: Trump Is Not a Target and That’s Big: Game over? (John Podhoretz)

Post by j-c-c » Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:44 pm

"So telling Trump that he’s not a target is a very big deal"

Is there anything else we should swallow with our eyes closed?

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Re: Trump Is Not a Target and That’s Big: Game over? (John Podhoretz)

Post by exhaustgases » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:00 pm

mk e wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:59 pm
rebelrouser wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:55 pm
Trumps future as president mainly hangs on the outcome of the midterm elections....
Nah, it's about his poll numbers, above 35 and he's safe, below 25 and he's out, in between it depends on which party has how many seats house and Senate.

So while his base remains loyal he's safe until 2020, hell probably get neutered in the midterms, but he'll still have the office.
I see you don't understand how polls are taken. They call people, and ones like me never answer the phone, and would just hang up. Why?
For fear of what could happen if you tell the wrong people you support trump. I can't say I'm a 100% supporter though, especially with things like tariffs on the wrong stuff. The most important thing to support is to keep out the Marxist socialist communist demo c rats. And if its Trump or who ever that is what is important.

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Re: Trump Is Not a Target and That’s Big: Game over? (John Podhoretz)

Post by 1989TransAm » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:56 pm

j-c-c wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:44 pm
"So telling Trump that he’s not a target is a very big deal"

Is there anything else we should swallow with our eyes closed?
I choose to not go there. :D

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Re: Trump Is Not a Target and That’s Big: Game over? (John Podhoretz)

Post by mk e » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:26 am

1989TransAm wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:18 pm

This is a witch hunt.
And they burn witches when they catch one ;)
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