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Re: Health Care Leviathon

Postby sanfordandson » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:46 pm

engineczar wrote:
Not according to your partner Sanford. He has the Trump quotes right in post #2, why don't you ask him about it?


Thats whats fun about trump....he talks out of both sides of his mouth and the gullible eat it right up.

He said he would repeal and replace as well as he said he would not.

You just cant make this stuff up! :lol:

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Postby Ken0069 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:47 am

Another nail in the Oblamocare coffin!

Anthem to stop selling individual plans in much of Virginia
Aug. 11, 2017, at 8:55 p.m
By BEN FINLEY, Associated Press

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states ... f-virginia


NORFOLK, Va. (AP) — A third insurance company said Friday that it will stop offering individual health insurance plans under the Affordable Care Act next year in Virginia, citing in part the uncertainty in Washington as lawmakers debate the future of the health care law.

Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield said in a statement that the decision was based on the shrinking individual market and "continual changes and uncertainty" in the operation, rules and guidance of the law.

In his calls to repeal the law, President Donald Trump has threatened to cut funding to insurance companies that helps them subsidize plans for low-income people.

The news prompted Democrats on Friday to blame Trump for "deliberate sabotage" of the ACA, while Republicans cited it as more proof that the law should be "repealed and replaced."

Anthem's departure — along with Aetna and UnitedHealthcare — means only one insurer will offer individual plans in more than half of Virginia's counties and independent cities next year, according to Katha Treanor, a spokeswoman for Virginia's Bureau of Insurance.

The departure of the insurers means that many could find their doctors are out of network, with only one insurance company to turn to for an individual plan.

At total of 360,000 Virginians bought health insurance this year through individual plans, Treanor said. The majority were through Anthem. About 160,000 people purchased individual plans under the ACA. Another 46,000 bought plans outside of the federal marketplace.

Anthem said it will only sell individual plans that are unaffiliated with the ACA in two counties and one city in southwestern Virginia.

Jill A. Hanken, an attorney with the Virginia Poverty Law Center, stressed that five insurance companies will still offer individual plans and that Virginians will still have at least one option for buying coverage under the ACA.

But she said: "I hope the remaining companies will stay in place and give Congress a chance to stabilize the market."

Hanken said about 700,000 people lack health insurance in the state.

In the wake of Anthem's announcement, Gov. Terry McAuliffe lambasted the Trump Administration, saying it needed "to stop playing politics with people's lives and come together in a bipartisan way" to provide certainty to the insurance industry.

In a joint statement, Virginia's two Democratic U.S. senators, Mark Warner and Tim Kaine, accused the president of sabotage. But they said Republicans and Democrats in the Senate are working on a bipartisan plan to address the issue.

Virginia House of Delegates Speaker William J. Howell, a Republican, said the Anthem decision illustrates the urgent need for a new law.

"Obamacare is hurting more people than it is helping, forcing Americans to buy insurance they don't like, don't need, and cannot afford," he said in a statement.

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Re: Health Care Leviathon

Postby sanfordandson » Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:30 pm

I thought trump was gonna fix this asap??

Another trump lie??

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Re: Health Care Leviathon

Postby 1989TransAm » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:33 pm

sanfordandson wrote:I thought trump was gonna fix this asap??

Another trump lie??


What are you doing to help him fix it?

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Re: Health Care Leviathon

Postby mk e » Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:32 pm

1989TransAm wrote:
sanfordandson wrote:I thought trump was gonna fix this asap??

Another trump lie??


What are you doing to help him fix it?


Staying out of his way so he can implement his plan right?
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Re: Health Care Leviathon

Postby 1989TransAm » Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:22 pm

mk e wrote:
1989TransAm wrote:
sanfordandson wrote:I thought trump was gonna fix this asap??

Another trump lie??


What are you doing to help him fix it?


Staying out of his way so he can implement his plan right?


So basically nothing. No supporting of candidates who want to get rid of Obamacare. Just come on here and blast someone who is trying to do something about it.

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Re: Health Care Leviathon

Postby mk e » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:15 am

1989TransAm wrote:
Staying out of his way so he can implement his plan right?


So basically nothing. No supporting of candidates who want to get rid of Obamacare. Just come on here and blast someone who is trying to do something about it.[/quote]

Here's the thing.....destorying is not the same as building and knowing what you don't want is not the same as knowing what you do want.

The repubs have no plan. Rump had no plan. With no plan it's pretty much impossible to build support for action.....which is why having an actual plan, not just a 1 line slogan is so important.
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Re: Health Care Leviathon

Postby Ken0069 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:03 am

Not enough ppl signing up for coverage?? Who the hell can afford it?? And it's not worth a shit when it's got a deductible that's $5,000 to $10,000??

Health Insurers in New Mexico To Implement Record-High Premium Increases
Insurance superintendent says premiums are spiking because not enough people are signing up for coverage
BY: Ali Meyer
September 22, 2017

http://freebeacon.com/issues/health-ins ... increases/

Health insurers in New Mexico are increasing premiums at the highest rate seen in the four-year history of the state's exchanges, the Albuquerque Journal reported.

Insurers will increase premiums next year from a range of 36 to 41 percent for midlevel insurance plans. For all plans, premiums are expected to rise a range of 17 to 49 percent.

Sixty percent of consumers in New Mexico will qualify for subsidies to lower the cost of the increasing premium.

"I feel sorry for the other 40 percent though," said John Franchini, the state's insurance superintendent. "Forty percent have to pay the full brunt of the rate increases."

Franchini says that instability of the exchanges is the main reason insurers want premium rate increases. By raising premiums, insurers can be more confident about participating in Obamacare if the extra cash can insulate them from major financial losses.

In addition, Franchini says premiums are going up because not enough people are purchasing insurance through the exchanges.

"The continued volatility and chaos in health insurance market creates an extraordinarily challenging business environment for health insurers," said Martin Hickey, the CEO of New Mexico's co-op, New Mexico Health Connections. "Health plans are doing the best they can to navigate in the current climate."

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Re: Health Care Leviathon

Postby 1989TransAm » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:51 am

I hear the premiums are going up 200% in Alaska but the nut Senator is not voting for something different. UP 114% in Arizona but the nut job McCain has voted against something better.

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Re: Health Care Leviathon

Postby Firedome8 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:52 pm

1989TransAm wrote:I hear the premiums are going up 200% in Alaska but the nut Senator is not voting for something different. UP 114% in Arizona but the nut job McCain has voted against something better.


how about single payer system???

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Re: Health Care Leviathon

Postby LPM » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:23 pm

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mk e wrote:Rump is a life long democrat so what did you expect?


Very true and so were his kids.

Can't believe that many people fell for it.


Well, you've convinced me. I should have voted for Hillary. I'll know better next time.

For real though, ObamaCare is too big to just Executive Order out of existence without even more serious problems. Anyone who thinks otherwise is stupid.
He wants to give us something better, but he is getting zero help from establishment Republicans.
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Re: Health Care Leviathon

Postby pdq67 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:47 pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"But she said: "I hope the remaining companies will stay in place and give Congress a chance to stabilize the market.""

Doesn't this just mean, "THROW MONEY AT IT!!!"....

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Re: Health Care Leviathon

Postby axegrinder » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:41 pm

mk e wrote:
engineczar wrote:. Trump might have good intentions about repealing it but with the current senate in place it won't happen.


He said over and over during the campaign that he intended to do no such thing. He said he wanted it to cover more people for lower premiums (aka more goverment subsidies)......but you guys only heard what you wanted to hear.....and elected a turd.


Half (roughly) of America heard what we needed to hear. Trump was the only choice to possibly make America stronger. If you had your way we would have already had a tax increase, a screaming liberal sup court judge, and 700,000 non assimilating refugees, and a racist bigot lying president who owed everybody who helped her get elected. You wanted to sabotage America and you lost. Now you try to do your small (meaningless) little part to influence any newcomer that Trump is actually the problem. You are as ineffective and out of touch now as you were before the election when you were convinced Trump would lose. You must be getting paid to post your out of touch garbage that only sandy believes.
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