New Clevland Blocks

[Mark O'Neal]

Sweet! Wished they went into more details. The Cleveland engine had loads of issues , most of which could be cured with a good block. Just can't imagine there would be that big of a market for them though.

Oddly enough, Cleveland stroker pistons are hard to keep in stock.

[289nate]

Sweet! Wished they went into more details. The Cleveland engine had loads of issues , most of which could be cured with a good block. Just can't imagine there would be that big of a market for them though.

Oddly enough, Cleveland stroker pistons are hard to keep in stock.

Do they land in the states or go to Aussies and Kiwis?

[Mpcoluv]

Those big old iron 4V heads love the added displacement of a stroker.
I would love to have a strong big bore block in the cleveland format soley because all my existing parts would still work.
Does anyone know hte price of the MME block?

[manyponies]

Here is a cut and paste I was asked to post on the 335 forum,

Since the Press Release seems to have "let the cat out of the bag" or should I say "let Titus out of the bag" I was asked to make a few comments on the new product.

The why question:

We have been pushing the envelope of the Cleveland platform for many years and have been forced to use Windsor based blocks for some builds including our own race car and our Engine Masters entries. That has changed. We will now run Cleveland engines in our race car and at the Engine Masters Challenge. We needed a platform that we could build well over 1100 hp from a naturally aspirated small block to be competitive in our race car. This Titus will allow us to build larger displacement engines than was possible with a Windsor based engine. I think this will open the Cleveland platform to other markets like the X275 and Outlaw Drag Radial classes using N/A, Nitrous, Turbo and Superchargers. I believe the dirt and asphalt markets will benefit from the new capability of the Cleveland Platform. Classes like Super Late Model are very abusive on engines and larger displacement versions have durability issues. The Titus is designed to address these issues.

The features question:

The Titus is designed with many new features including larger bore capability. The oiling system has been redesigned for priority oiling to the mains with the ability to adjust oil flow elsewhere. The main webs have been designed solid for the greatest amount of material with a 4.38 bore center. The cam tunnel has been configured to allow stock and larger base circle cams and stock or larger cam bearings. It will have a one piece rear main seal that will work with production and after market crankshafts. The Titus will also be available in the standard 9.2 deck height and 9.5 deck height. The main caps have also been redesigned and will be wider then stock with splayed outer bolts that tie into the solid pan rail. The Titus will also be available by special order in custom deck heights and the ability to run Windsor based cams. Currently there are more choices for larger than stock cam cores for the Windsor and this will allow some users of Clevors to switch back the the superior Cleveland platform with out having to repurchase cams and distributors.

The interchangeability question:

The Titus is designed to be used everywhere. This is NOT a "race only" block. It is designed to mate to stock and existing components. While it is designed to handle extreme power it will also be at home in a street car.

The questions question:

I'm sure there will be specific questions regarding the Titus that have not been addressed here, We will be happy to answer any questions concerning the Titus by phone or e-mail.

I hope 2012 finds the entire Cleveland community well and excited as are we!

[manyponies]

Wasn't getting foundry work done one of the biggest problems they were facing when getting this block together in iron and or aluminum? There's a lot that can be read on the Cleveland engine forum if you do a little searching:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/

The Titus is designed , tooled and cast in the USA. We sought recommendations from some of our peers who are already having parts cast successfully in the states. There are plenty of reputable foundries here in the states that are ready and willing to do the work.

[SupStk]

Thanks for bring us up to speed on that project. Do you have any data concerning deck, cylinder wall thicknesses and weight? Has a prototype of the production casting been assembled? Any idea when it will be available and cost?

[GT427]

Sweet! Wished they went into more details. The Cleveland engine had loads of issues , most of which could be cured with a good block. Just can't imagine there would be that big of a market for them though.

Oddly enough, Cleveland stroker pistons are hard to keep in stock.

Then why not make an OTS piston for the big bore blocks, 4.125+?
Those using a dart block/cleveland deal have no choice but custom ATM.

[Brian S]

The Titus will also be available by special order in custom deck heights and the ability to run Windsor based cams.

If that means the possibility of a custom 10.3 deck height with a large bore I think many 400 fans will be pleased. I've been sitting on a billet 4.5 stroker crank I bought from Roush many years ago and have been dreaming of building a pseudo top fuel motor for the street.

[Kazoom]

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http://www.racecrateengines.com/Titus_images.html

[Mark O'Neal]

Sweet! Wished they went into more details. The Cleveland engine had loads of issues , most of which could be cured with a good block. Just can't imagine there would be that big of a market for them though.

Oddly enough, Cleveland stroker pistons are hard to keep in stock.

Do they land in the states or go to Aussies and Kiwis?

Both. The Aussies do use a fair bit, but most of them stay here.

[Mark O'Neal]

Sweet! Wished they went into more details. The Cleveland engine had loads of issues , most of which could be cured with a good block. Just can't imagine there would be that big of a market for them though.

Oddly enough, Cleveland stroker pistons are hard to keep in stock.

Then why not make an OTS piston for the big bore blocks, 4.125+?
Those using a dart block/cleveland deal have no choice but custom ATM.

I don't have the volume required to justify the money on a new forging die to make a decent part. It looks as though TFS may add them to their line, to compliment their new Cleveland cylinder head, though. As least, I've heard rumblings to that effect.

[jsgarage]

On your 'Vintage Race Inspection', I hope they're a bit more careful than 30 years ago. Some aluminum blocks and aluminum heads had the logos machined off, then sprayed with steel paint to make them magnetic enough to pass tech inspectors in a hurry. 'Course, vintage racing is all for fun these days.... I like my Fontana-Clevor!

[Brian S]

Hopefully Mark doesn't mind me posting a few images for him.

[dfree383]

whats the asking price for such a fine looking hunk of metal? Alum? Iron?

[Brian S]

whats the asking price for such a fine looking hunk of metal? Alum? Iron?

The price on the web site stated $4500 for an aluminum block, iron block prices to follow.