Ok, stockcar5 I know you don't agree with the combination i'm doing and that's fine we will see if it works or not. If it doesn't we will know what not to do. That's how people go faster by trying things maybe i'm wrong, I am not scared to throw shit at the barn, I'm not saying this motor is thrown together hoping and praying it does what I want to my knowledge which is limited, it is a very well thought out engine. Maybe every 20 year old kid works on motors to the extent I do, maybe not. I do know that I am open minded to everything but when all I see is "stroker" motors going on the dyno and seeing the power and tq curve look like a polygraph or straight up and straight down it raises question to my mind, what if I put my education to work rather than copy everyone else peaking power at 5000-5300rpm maybe if raise peak tq, the curve will be flatter and longer than anyone elses maybe not, its almost a direct overlay dyno graph of my mom's Yukon. All i'm saying is you don't have to be like every other close minded dirt track racer and point fingers with everyone else. Hey maybe someday we can work on a combination together to make it perfect maybe not.