new 434 combo HP predictions

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new 434 combo HP predictions

Postby mygtr » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:24 pm

Just thought i would post my proposed engine combo. Looking for HP estimates from this forum.
Maybe even some improvements.
Thanks.

Motown block
434 cu in
Scat crank 4" stroke x 4.155 bore
6" rods h beam rods
14.1 comp
235 AFR heads
shaft mount rollers 1.65 int 1.55exh
Super Victor (4500)
1050 QFT alky carb
comp cams solid roller 724/668 lift 279/286 dur @ 50 108 lobe sep.
Moroso vac pump.
7Al 3 msd ignition.
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Re: new 434 combo HP predictions

Postby cspeier » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:37 pm

mygtr wrote:Just thought i would post my proposed engine combo. Looking for HP estimates from this forum.
Maybe even some improvements.
Thanks.

Motown block
434 cu in
Scat crank 4" stroke x 4.155 bore
6" rods h beam rods
14.1 comp
235 AFR heads
shaft mount rollers 1.65 int 1.55exh
Super Victor (4500)
1050 QFT alky carb
comp cams solid roller 724/668 lift 279/286 dur @ 50 108 lobe sep.
Moroso vac pump.
7Al 3 msd ignition.



720/600
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Re: new 434 combo HP predictions

Postby mygtr » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:11 pm

Would there be an advantage with a 110 lobe separation?
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Re: new 434 combo HP predictions

Postby levisnteeshirt » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:11 pm

i'd put a bigger head on it with a cam that big ,, but thats me , or i'd tone the cam down
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Re: new 434 combo HP predictions

Postby af2 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:43 pm

The cam is not that big. Sounds like someone will spin the thing where it works and not the usual 7000.
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Re: new 434 combo HP predictions

Postby RichardThiessen » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:01 pm

I tried that cam with my 427 sbc, 14:1, ported super victor, ported dart 230's, 1090 demon, no vac pump... made about 640/550
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Re: new 434 combo HP predictions

Postby clevo » Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:38 am

660HP
You need more head to make more HP :wink:
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Re: new 434 combo HP predictions

Postby SupStk » Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:15 am

My guess is 725 and change if everything is right. Seems to me you have enough cam...:D
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Re: new 434 combo HP predictions

Postby BrazilianZ28Camaro » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:47 pm

Carb seems a bit small :D

The guesstimate will be 680@ 7400 /610tq 5600
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Re: new 434 combo HP predictions

Postby RichardThiessen » Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:09 pm

I think I need to find a happy dyno... maybe then I can get to 700 hp :mrgreen:
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Re: new 434 combo HP predictions

Postby xanadu » Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:27 am

If that does'nt make 650 / 600 on Alky, i'll gladly eat my hat :D
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Re: new 434 combo HP predictions

Postby mygtr » Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:30 pm

Will post results once we hit the dyno in about 12 weeks.
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Re: new 434 combo HP predictions

Postby Fatman » Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:54 pm

Is that .724' intake lift with the 1.65 rockers or would it be 724 with 1.5s and therefore alot more with the 1.65s?
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Re: new 434 combo HP predictions

Postby levisnteeshirt » Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:57 pm

it could use a bigger head to get the most out of it ,,, but ,, see what it does ,, trick flow has a 18 degree head prolly for close what you'll pay for those AFR's ,, i know what i'd get
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Re: new 434 combo HP predictions

Postby mygtr » Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:32 pm

724 lift is with the 1.6 ratio, my bad (not 1.65) Have seen pump gas combos make 650 easily with these heads. Would love to go 18 degree but that means another $2000 in custom pipes. I will be over the moon if we can make 700 as that will see my 2650lbs car into the 8s. We will be trying a ported plenum super vic (2970) as well as an out of the box version.
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