Making an ash hole of the EPA

[SWR]

If you can, look and see if you had the same weather conditions in the early 80's.
The last time we had these weather pattern hre in the US was in the early 80's.
In the early 80's, we had a very large El Nino in the pacific that was effecting the weather paterns.
Right now, we also have a very large El Nino in the pacific, but the "Climate Change" followers seem to be ignoring that fact.

Mike, I can confirm that the "extreme amounts" of snow and real cold spells (-30) this latest winter is not extreme at all, it is just like in the late 70's and early 80's. I looked at a photo of a cabin my family built in 1983 and compared it to a shot taken of the same cabin from the same spot in November 09. The level of snow were the same 6-6.5ft, and the lowest temps (according to the cabin "log" we write in after every visit where we log the coldest and hottest temps of every visit amongst other things) were just 2 degrees C different in february 1983 vs '09.

[B20Paul]

Those are some fudged numbers

On average, man made CO2 output is upwards of 125 times greater than volcanic CO2 output. (Source: USGS)

If you can, look and see if you had the same weather conditions in the early 80's.
The last time we had these weather pattern hre in the US was in the early 80's.
In the early 80's, we had a very large El Nino in the pacific that was effecting the weather paterns.
Right now, we also have a very large El Nino in the pacific, but the "Climate Change" followers seem to be ignoring that fact.

So the weather isn't much different in the North America, except it's hotter now than it was in the early 80's. Here in Australia we had 13 years of severe drought during the La Niña periods.

The level of snow were the same 6-6.5ft, and the lowest temps (according to the cabin "log" we write in after every visit where we log the coldest and hottest temps of every visit amongst other things) were just 2 degrees C different in february 1983 vs '09.

Just 2°C. So if that continues in a linear fashion, it will be just 7°C hotter again by 2100? I actually believe that when the Gulf Stream & North Atlantic Drift slow & grind to a stop, the British Isles & Northern Europe will become very cold places.

Lets pretend that the global warming isn't happening and/or isn't actually a problem: We still have the huge problem of ocean acidification which will lead to dead oceans. How many millions of people need fish for food? How many trillions of dollars will be lost by people who make a living from seafood & tourism? The BP oil spill might give us just a small taste of that if much more crude leaks in to the gulf.

And what happens to plants that grow in higher levels of CO2? Yes, they grow faster but their protein content takes a nose dive. That's really bad if you eat plants or you eat animals that eat plants.

I'm not a tree hugger, I am just a regular guy who thinks ahead. None of these things will affect us & probably won't affect our children, but our grand children & great grand children will be very unhappy.

[SWR]

The level of snow were the same 6-6.5ft, and the lowest temps (according to the cabin "log" we write in after every visit where we log the coldest and hottest temps of every visit amongst other things) were just 2 degrees C different in february 1983 vs '09.

Just 2°C. So if that continues in a linear fashion, it will be just 7°C hotter again by 2100? I actually believe that when the Gulf Stream & North Atlantic Drift slow & grind to a stop, the British Isles & Northern Europe will become very cold places.

If that continues in a linear fashion I'll get cold without thinking of the Gulf Stream. It was on average 2 degrees COLDER this winter at my cabin than in '83, not warmer.

[CamKing]

So if that continues in a linear fashion,

If only a certain part of me kept growing in a linier fashion, I'd have a completly different career.

[af2]

So if that continues in a linear fashion,

If only a certain part of me kept growing in a linier fashion, I'd have a completly different career.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!
I have a belly! lol

[B20Paul]

It was on average 2 degrees COLDER this winter at my cabin than in '83, not warmer.

Like I said, Norway is going to get colder, but look on the bright side, you can move to Siberia where it is getting warmer. How does living on melted permafrost sound to you?

[Engguy]

B20, still believing the twisted data I see. Besides the enviro crap is nothing to be concerned about, especially with all your great grand kids. What is important is how the evil ones that are in controll now are going to ruin things for them, they will be a super slave class. Paying and paying they may get to work 20 hours a day and give all proceeds to the officals, to dole out to all, and they may live in 20 by 20 condo's on the work site as well, it will be deemed that its better for the government to raise thier children, you know so they don't get any wrong ideas in thier heads, so your great great grand kids may not even know who thier mom and dad are let alone who you were. You need to get your priorities straight, It is not the lies that are being used to enslave everyone.

[1989TransAm]

"Besides the enviro crap is nothing to be concerned about"

Hey Engguy you know what happens when you question someone about their "religion".

[SWR]

It was on average 2 degrees COLDER this winter at my cabin than in '83, not warmer.

Like I said, Norway is going to get colder, but look on the bright side, you can move to Siberia where it is getting warmer. How does living on melted permafrost sound to you?

Just great. TONS of FREE methane hydrate to use as fuel for just about anything. It's actually better to burn it that to let it loose as is, as the remains after burning has less impact on the atmosphere.

[Engguy]

This volcano is a godsend IMHO. Besides saving all that oil from being burnt by jets, it also cools the atmosphere. (A historical fact, not a scientific theory)

Wow ! I finally agree with you. Jets are the major cause of fake clouds and thus weather changes and warming effect. Saying nothing about the tons of fuel burnt every minute of every day, and the tons of raw fuel dumped to arrive at the proper landing weight.