Engine Masters Challenge teardown question

[bc]

What sucks is I dont believe there will be any write up on Kaase's engine since he finished 4th. Im interested in seeing what the top finisher with each engine make had in their engines.

[deadnutz]

Competition is cool and fun.
I thrive on it. The EM has become exactly as most of us knew it would. Another rich mans game. Not whining cause that's life.
But that's why I compete in NHRA Super Stock. It allows me to compete with the best in the country at my own when-I-can-afford-it-pace.
I've won class three times. Once at Indy. On a pitiful budget.
So.....let's race.

ClassKing,
Wait until you see the pictures of the winning engine teardown.
You will be very surprised at how much it is looks like a regular S/S engine.
I hear that there were no ultra high dollar components used.
No nicasil sleeves, no lifter bushings, no stud girdle, no bearing spacers...
It didn't even use a dominator carb like everyone else had.
This motor didn't cost anymore to build than a competitive S/S motor.

[ClassKing]

You're right, I will be. After seeing how clever his Fords were, (and needed to be) I would expect nothing less from him. He's one sharp cat.
I'm looking forward to see what he designed.

[deadnutz]

I was talking about the winner's BBC, not the Pontiac that JK built.

[ClassKing]

Oh, bit of a miscue there.
Ditto for the Chev. It'll be interesting to see.

[Motorman 407]

Posted by Racer7088
Congratulations to team Autoshop! I think they certainly surprised everyone![quote]

I think so to.

[putztastics]

And in other news Engine Masters klutzy dyno operators melt down another engine;

At the EMC contest in New York (on Wednesday or Thursday, whichever day it was that he dynoed), they put his engine on and proceeded to dyno it. I have already told Dave McLain and a couple of the other guys what happened, but anyway the dyno operator did not get it filled up with water due to cooling tower/cooling hose issues. Randy had a huge air lock. The operator proceeded to make some pulls and with each successive pull he melted it down, all the while losing power of course. The bottom line is that Randy's engine is hurt and hurt bad. It got all the pistons and the rings of course. Maybe more, we don't know yet. He is just sick!

Source

Interesting that the same kind of power loss across the pulls happened to Kaase in the finals but he didn't blame it on the dyno cooling system.

Kudos to Lennart and Birgitta Bergqvist, I mean wow!



You don't see that very often!

[putztastics]

This is kind of cool;

Tom and Brenda Foley, along with their four kids, made the trip from Monroe, Wisconsin knowing they may be down on power compared to the Chevys, but they came here to show what their big-block Chrysler could do.

Source

I wonder if Tom's daughter compared him to the dipstick like my daughter did. She came out to the shop when we were flogging the 2003 Moparts 470 Engine Masters entry took a look at the chrome dipstick and, in front of all the guys, said, "Dad you are like this dipstick, it may be nice, but it is still a dipstick."

[deadnutz]

And in other news Engine Masters klutzy dyno operators melt down another engine;

At the EMC contest in New York (on Wednesday or Thursday, whichever day it was that he dynoed), they put his engine on and proceeded to dyno it. I have already told Dave McLain and a couple of the other guys what happened, but anyway the dyno operator did not get it filled up with water due to cooling tower/cooling hose issues. Randy had a huge air lock. The operator proceeded to make some pulls and with each successive pull he melted it down, all the while losing power of course. The bottom line is that Randy's engine is hurt and hurt bad. It got all the pistons and the rings of course. Maybe more, we don't know yet. He is just sick!

Source

That's a damn shame what happened to Randy's motor.
Weren't there any clues (abnormal exh. temps, oil temp, detonation, etc.) during his very first warmup run that could have indicated possible trouble? From what I have been reading at the Engine Masters website, a couple of other competitors elected to abort their runs when their motors didn't seem "right" on the initial warmup pull.
They weren't forced to make all three pulls if they didn't want to.

[putztastics]

The thing is basically the same thing happened to Kaase in the finals, his engine lost power across the pulls, and he didn't blame the dyno cooling system. These engines are all probably running in detonation, they are pushed to the limit and then some. It's the nature of the game, Randy's engine isn't the first to lose the ring seal from being pushed over the edge in an EM contest. So I don't know how one would know if it was because a cooling system problem, or being pushed over the edge.

[deadnutz]

In case anyone was wondering, here's some numbers posted at Redline Oils website from the Engine Masters top 6 motors:

Top Placing Entries Final Competition Statistics

Champion - AutoShop Racing Engines / Chevrolet
Final Total Score- 1,288.00
Average Horsepower- 599.33
Average Torque- 688.67
Peak Horsepower- 851 @ 6,400 rpm
Peak Torque- 750 @ 4,800 rpm

2nd Place- BES Racing Engines / Chevrolet
Final Total Score- 1,265.67
Average Horsepower- 589.00
Average Torque- 676.67
Peak Horsepower- 816 @ 6,500 rpm
Peak Torque- 740 @ 4,800 rpm

3rd Place- Livernois Motorsports / Ford
Final Total Score- 1,258.00
Average Horsepower- 584.33
Average Torque- 673.67
Peak Horsepower- 816 @ 6,500 rpm
Peak Torque- 740 @ 4,800 rpm

4th Place- Jon Kaase Racing Engines / Pontiac
Final Total Score- 1,255.66
Average Horsepower- 581.33
Average Torque- 674.33
Peak Horsepower- 805 @ 6,000 rpm
Peak Torque- 760 @ 5,000 rpm

5th Place- Shaver Specialty / Chevrolet
Final Total Score- 1,239.66
Average Horsepower- 662.66
Average Torque- 577.00
Peak Horsepower- 822 @ 6,300 rpm
Peak Torque- 732 @ 5,200 rpm

6th Place- Mile High Performance / Chevrolet
Final Total Score- 1197.67
Average Horsepower- 553.00
Average Torque- 644.67
Peak Horsepower- 720 @ 6,000 rpm
Peak Torque- 701 @ 5,000 rpm