Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats?

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Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats?

Post by 1989TransAm » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:14 pm

"Ukrainian law enforcement officials believe they have evidence of wrongdoing by American Democrats and their allies in Kiev, ranging from 2016 election interference to obstructing criminal probes. But, they say, they’ve been thwarted in trying to get the Trump Justice Department to act.
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In another instance, he said, Ukrainian authorities gathered evidence that money paid to an American Democrat allegedly was hidden by Ukraine’s National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) during the 2016 election under pressure from U.S. officials. “In the course of this investigation, we found that there was a situation during which influence was exerted on the NABU, so that the name of (the American) would not be mentioned,” he said.
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- Contacts between Democratic figures in Washington and Ukrainian officials that involved passing along dirt on Donald Trump;
- Financial records showing a Ukrainian natural gas company routed more than $3 million to American accounts tied to Hunter Biden, younger son of then-Vice President Joe Biden, who managed U.S.-Ukrainian relations for the Obama administration. Biden’s son served on the board of a Ukrainian natural gas company, Burisma Holdings;
- Records that Vice President Biden pressured Ukrainian officials in March 2016 to fire the prosecutor who oversaw an investigation of Burisma Holdings and who planned to interview Hunter Biden about the financial transfers;"

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house ... -democrats

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Re: Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats?

Post by j-c-c » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:29 pm

1989TransAm wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:14 pm
"Ukrainian law enforcement officials believe they have evidence of wrongdoing by American Democrats and their allies in Kiev, ranging from 2016 election interference to obstructing criminal probes. But, they say, they’ve been thwarted in trying to get the Trump Justice Department to act.
**SNIP**
In another instance, he said, Ukrainian authorities gathered evidence that money paid to an American Democrat allegedly was hidden by Ukraine’s National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) during the 2016 election under pressure from U.S. officials. “In the course of this investigation, we found that there was a situation during which influence was exerted on the NABU, so that the name of (the American) would not be mentioned,” he said.
**SNIP**
- Contacts between Democratic figures in Washington and Ukrainian officials that involved passing along dirt on Donald Trump;
- Financial records showing a Ukrainian natural gas company routed more than $3 million to American accounts tied to Hunter Biden, younger son of then-Vice President Joe Biden, who managed U.S.-Ukrainian relations for the Obama administration. Biden’s son served on the board of a Ukrainian natural gas company, Burisma Holdings;
- Records that Vice President Biden pressured Ukrainian officials in March 2016 to fire the prosecutor who oversaw an investigation of Burisma Holdings and who planned to interview Hunter Biden about the financial transfers;"

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house ... -democrats
I don't know, better get right on that, after we see the Mueller report and and DT's tax returns.

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Re: Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats?

Post by exhaustgases » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:27 am

The answer is simple demoncrats hate the truth.
jcc is so into publishing personal tax returns, he should post his right here for us to see. If he doesn't then he needs to shut up about trump posting his.
Oh and shows the hypocrite that he is, and liar as well if he doesn't post them now.

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Re: Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats?

Post by 86_regal » Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:18 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:27 am
The answer is simple demoncrats hate the truth.
jcc is so into publishing personal tax returns, he should post his right here for us to see. If he doesn't then he needs to shut up about trump posting his.
Oh and shows the hypocrite that he is, and liar as well if he doesn't post them now.
It seems J-C-C has an interest in seeing ALL of it.

Why can't you step out from behind your partisanship and advocate for full transparency?

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Re: Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats?

Post by 1989TransAm » Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:23 pm

dimoKKKRATS only want full transparency onlywhen Republicans are involved. IMHO full transparency has its limits. One is national security and another maybe to protect the Grand Jury which is what I think is going on in the Mueller report.

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Re: Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats?

Post by 86_regal » Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:29 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:27 am
The answer is simple demoncrats hate the truth.
jcc is so into publishing personal tax returns, he should post his right here for us to see. If he doesn't then he needs to shut up about trump posting his.
Oh and shows the hypocrite that he is, and liar as well if he doesn't post them now.
As for tax returns, I raised this in another post.

If you don't think that Trump is required to disclose his returns, should ANY public official be required to?
If you espouse FULL government transparency, then why wouldn't EVERY taxpayers' returns be made public, YOURS included?

Personally, I would choose a third direction. Completely abolish the totally arbitrary, unfair, unequal, not to mention indiscernible Income Tax system...

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Re: Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats?

Post by 86_regal » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:45 pm

1989TransAm wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:23 pm
dimoKKKRATS only want full transparency onlywhen Republicans are involved. IMHO full transparency has its limits. One is national security and another maybe to protect the Grand Jury which is what I think is going on in the Mueller report.
No doubt there are Democrats that would fit that mold.

As for national security...
In all honesty, do you believe that our (UN) support of an Israeli State in 48' resulting the "eviction" of some 250,000 Palestinians from that land, the overthrowing of the Iranian Prime minister to empower the (pro-British & US) Shah monarchy in 53', the US resistance placed on Iran when the Shah was overthrown and the Ayahtollah resumed authority, military support of Israel beginning in the 60s, allegiances with Bin Laden in the 70s against the Russians until it became "politically unpopular" and resulted in turning his fellow Afghans into hamburger, Hussein in the 80s against the Iranians until we reneged on our promise that he would control a greater share of OPEC oil reserves and countless other "not so transparent" military actions has NOT made us LESS SAFE????

Simpler question? Would 9/11/01 not have just another day, had the FAA allowed weapons of virtually ANY kind on passenger planes be carried by either passengers OR any of the flight crew????

As for anonymity of the grand jury, why should that not be disclosed? If you're saying it is to protect members from reprisal, isn't that what the Second Amendment is for? The fact there is a concern of something of that nature should tell you how much MORE important such matters ARE than they SHOULD be...

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Re: Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats?

Post by j-c-c » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:43 am

exhaustgases wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:27 am
The answer is simple demoncrats hate the truth.
jcc is so into publishing personal tax returns, he should post his right here for us to see. If he doesn't then he needs to shut up about trump posting his.
Oh and shows the hypocrite that he is, and liar as well if he doesn't post them now.
After the audit. #-o

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Re: Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats?

Post by j-c-c » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:46 am

86_regal wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:29 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:27 am
The answer is simple demoncrats hate the truth.
jcc is so into publishing personal tax returns, he should post his right here for us to see. If he doesn't then he needs to shut up about trump posting his.
Oh and shows the hypocrite that he is, and liar as well if he doesn't post them now.
As for tax returns, I raised this in another post.

If you don't think that Trump is required to disclose his returns, should ANY public official be required to?
If you espouse FULL government transparency, then why wouldn't EVERY taxpayers' returns be made public, YOURS included?

Personally, I would choose a third direction. Completely abolish the totally arbitrary, unfair, unequal, not to mention indiscernible Income Tax system...
Those that abuse one system of gov source of funding to their own financial advantage, are likely to abuse another IMO. not sure what the gain here is, in this transparency context.

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Re: Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats?

Post by exhaustgases » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:02 pm

j-c-c wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:43 am
exhaustgases wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:27 am
The answer is simple demoncrats hate the truth.
jcc is so into publishing personal tax returns, he should post his right here for us to see. If he doesn't then he needs to shut up about trump posting his.
Oh and shows the hypocrite that he is, and liar as well if he doesn't post them now.
After the audit. #-o
Just go back some years we will enjoy what ever it is. And we might see that its the demoncrat propaganda factory you work for.

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Re: Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats?

Post by j-c-c » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:08 am

exhaustgases wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:02 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:43 am
exhaustgases wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:27 am
The answer is simple demoncrats hate the truth.
jcc is so into publishing personal tax returns, he should post his right here for us to see. If he doesn't then he needs to shut up about trump posting his.
Oh and shows the hypocrite that he is, and liar as well if he doesn't post them now.
After the audit. #-o
Just go back some years we will enjoy what ever it is. And we might see that its the demoncrat propaganda factory you work for.
But I wasn't office then. :shock:

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