Bernie Sanders calls Trump a racist before Apollo event

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Re: Bernie Sanders calls Trump a racist before Apollo event

Post by j-c-c » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:30 am

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Say, didn't President Trump date a "woman of color" back years ago? And did she not state that she NEVER, EVER saw or heard anything racist from Trump? =D>
Slave owners "dated" slaves, so they weren't racists, is your point?

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Re: Bernie Sanders calls Trump a racist before Apollo event

Post by jet1 » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:12 pm

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Ignore it all you want but the questilon still remains , "what you consider proof of racism"?

Use your own words.
While I agree that defining what constitutes "proof of racism" IS worthy of discussion. Since it's YOU asserting the accusation, isn't the burden on you?
Maybe, regardless it was a fair question, but it sure would be nice to know if my adversary thinks it can be defined, as he has never defined/acknowledged, except maybe black on white scenario. Pointless to discuss further if he thinks it doesn't exist in the first place.
Well apparently the left feels that racism is anything that they don't agree with. In actuality it actually does have something to do with race. I have not seen anything that Trump has done that is actually racist as I see it. What say you? I have figured out something that is systematically racist though. And because Trump hasn't abolished it yet one could consider racist if you really wanted to push it. That system would be called affirmative action. If you do not agree then tell me why!

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Re: Bernie Sanders calls Trump a racist before Apollo event

Post by j-c-c » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:20 pm

jet1 wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:12 pm
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Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:29 am
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While I agree that defining what constitutes "proof of racism" IS worthy of discussion. Since it's YOU asserting the accusation, isn't the burden on you?
Maybe, regardless it was a fair question, but it sure would be nice to know if my adversary thinks it can be defined, as he has never defined/acknowledged, except maybe black on white scenario. Pointless to discuss further if he thinks it doesn't exist in the first place.
Well apparently the left feels that racism is anything that they don't agree with. In actuality it actually does have something to do with race. I have not seen anything that Trump has done that is actually racist as I see it. What say you? I have figured out something that is systematically racist though. And because Trump hasn't abolished it yet one could consider racist if you really wanted to push it. That system would be called affirmative action. If you do not agree then tell me why!
Let's start first with the proclamation, got anything to back up the "apparently"?

i detect a bias, and bias is a big component of racism.

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Re: Bernie Sanders calls Trump a racist before Apollo event

Post by jet1 » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:31 pm

All i can tell you is that why would the left call Candice Owens a racist and a white supremacist? Why is everyone called racist when they are against Illegal immigration. Every time I see a debate between a leftist and a conservative it always ends with the conservative being called a racist, homophone, xenophobe etc. Not really biased but after enough times one does see the pattern.

So now I have answered your questions and now its your turn so give it up or concede.

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Re: Bernie Sanders calls Trump a racist before Apollo event

Post by exhaustgases » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:42 pm

The left / demoncrats are the original kkk racists. Again they turn around on to others exactly what they are, its the demoncrat MO.

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Re: Bernie Sanders calls Trump a racist before Apollo event

Post by j-c-c » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:20 am

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Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:42 pm
The left / demoncrats are the original kkk racists. Again they turn around on to others exactly what they are, its the demoncrat MO.
Turning things around is not party dependent, and you turned that around rather self servingly, by burying a fact in your hate in an attempt to give it a shred of legitimacy, in that some southern Democrats were deeply involved in the early days of the KKK.

Interesting though how history ebbs and flows, Yesterday's racist is tomorrow's freedom fighter. That is not likely to change, just like people like you who try to always exploit another's shortcomings for their own agenda.

Try to include some obvious logic in your reply, if you are up for it.

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Re: Bernie Sanders calls Trump a racist before Apollo event

Post by jet1 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:37 pm

j-c-c wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:20 am
exhaustgases wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:42 pm
The left / demoncrats are the original kkk racists. Again they turn around on to others exactly what they are, its the demoncrat MO.
Turning things around is not party dependent, and you turned that around rather self servingly, by burying a fact in your hate in an attempt to give it a shred of legitimacy, in that some southern Democrats were deeply involved in the early days of the KKK.

Interesting though how history ebbs and flows, Yesterday's racist is tomorrow's freedom fighter. That is not likely to change, just like people like you who try to always exploit another's shortcomings for their own agenda.

Try to include some obvious logic in your reply, if you are up for it.
The dems have historically been the party of racism and oppression. They related closely with Mussolini and Nazi Germany with fascism. The Nazi's used the democrats rules for second hand citizens for the rules against the Jews.

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Re: Bernie Sanders calls Trump a racist before Apollo event

Post by j-c-c » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:01 pm

jet1 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:37 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:20 am
exhaustgases wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:42 pm
The left / demoncrats are the original kkk racists. Again they turn around on to others exactly what they are, its the demoncrat MO.
Turning things around is not party dependent, and you turned that around rather self servingly, by burying a fact in your hate in an attempt to give it a shred of legitimacy, in that some southern Democrats were deeply involved in the early days of the KKK.

Interesting though how history ebbs and flows, Yesterday's racist is tomorrow's freedom fighter. That is not likely to change, just like people like you who try to always exploit another's shortcomings for their own agenda.

Try to include some obvious logic in your reply, if you are up for it.
The dems have historically been the party of racism and oppression. They related closely with Mussolini and Nazi Germany with fascism. The Nazi's used the democrats rules for second hand citizens for the rules against the Jews.
Got any non existent proof?

Say it again and I'll move calling it a misstatement to calling it a flat out lie.

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Re: Bernie Sanders calls Trump a racist before Apollo event

Post by jet1 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:54 pm

Maybe first you could answer my first question or concede like I asked rather than ignoring it.
Here is some existent proof though. So and if I say it again are you going to call me a racist?
Here is part of a read that gives a small amount of proof based from LBJ'S "The New Deal"

Roosevelt himself called Mussolini “admirable” and professed that he was “deeply impressed by what he has accomplished.” The admiration was mutual. In a laudatory review of Roosevelt’s 1933 book Looking Forward, Mussolini wrote, “Reminiscent of Fascism is the principle that the state no longer leaves the economy to its own devices.… Without question, the mood accompanying this sea change resembles that of Fascism.” The chief Nazi newspaper, Volkischer Beobachter, repeatedly praised “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” and “the development toward an authoritarian state” based on the “demand that collective good be put before individual self-interest.”

This was written by the CATO institute regarding LBJ

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Re: Bernie Sanders calls Trump a racist before Apollo event

Post by j-c-c » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:30 pm

jet1 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:54 pm
Maybe first you could answer my first question or concede like I asked rather than ignoring it.
Here is some existent proof though. So and if I say it again are you going to call me a racist?
Here is part of a read that gives a small amount of proof based from LBJ'S "The New Deal"

Roosevelt himself called Mussolini “admirable” and professed that he was “deeply impressed by what he has accomplished.” The admiration was mutual. In a laudatory review of Roosevelt’s 1933 book Looking Forward, Mussolini wrote, “Reminiscent of Fascism is the principle that the state no longer leaves the economy to its own devices.… Without question, the mood accompanying this sea change resembles that of Fascism.” The chief Nazi newspaper, Volkischer Beobachter, repeatedly praised “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” and “the development toward an authoritarian state” based on the “demand that collective good be put before individual self-interest.”

This was written by the CATO institute regarding LBJ
Dude, things evolve and reveal themselves, Hitler was considered for Time's man of the year, fascism had not revealed itself to what it could be distorted to be, Mussolini was widely acclaimed world wide for "making the trains run on time", a very "populist" low bar for success, kinda like DT's record today . A lot of people (Henry Ford, Lindbergh,etc) made poor choices of false prophets in those very tumultuous times, between rebuilding after WW1, loss of colonies, The depression, Treaty of Versailles, fear of communism, collapse of League of nations, etc)

BTW, what was your first question I am accused of ignoring that has this discussion at a stand still?

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Re: Bernie Sanders calls Trump a racist before Apollo event

Post by jet1 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:30 am

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Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:59 am
I am still waiting to see anything that Trump has done that is actually racist!
This would be the question.

On the other you asked and I showed proof. I don't care how you wanted to spin it but id does show that the Democrats have historically been the party of racism and bigotry. I believe that most actual Democrat are not that way but believe that the leaders of the party still are and are just selling a bill of goods to the public.

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Re: Bernie Sanders calls Trump a racist before Apollo event

Post by David Redszus » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:29 pm

Dude, things evolve and reveal themselves, Hitler was considered for Time's man of the year, .
Hitler was on the cover of Time magazine in 1933. In 1938 he was selected as man of the year by Time magazine.
A lot of people (Henry Ford, Lindbergh,etc) made poor choices of false prophets in those very tumultuous times,
Their choices were not poor; the results became poor for other reasons.
between rebuilding after WW1, loss of colonies, The depression, Treaty of Versailles, fear of communism, collapse of League of nations, etc)
Now those were very poor choices and the world paid dearly for them.


Bernie is simply brilliant. He refers to Trump as racist just as Trump is rapidly gaining approval among Latinos and Blacks. Astute judgement I'd say.

The party of racism is and always was the Democraps.

The list of Democrap racism is long and vicious; it includes:
Slavery
The KKK
Wilson the racist
FDR the racist
School segregation
Segregation of public area
Segrgation of transportation
lynchings
Jim Crow laws
inter-marriage prohibition
etc, etc.

No Democrap can ever speak of racism as long as they are members of a political party that have never acknowledged their role as a cause of racial strife in the US. First class hippocrates.

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Re: Bernie Sanders calls Trump a racist before Apollo event

Post by In-Tech » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:48 pm

David Redszus wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:29 pm
Dude, things evolve and reveal themselves, Hitler was considered for Time's man of the year, .
Hitler was on the cover of Time magazine in 1933. In 1938 he was selected as man of the year by Time magazine.
A lot of people (Henry Ford, Lindbergh,etc) made poor choices of false prophets in those very tumultuous times,
Their choices were not poor; the results became poor for other reasons.
between rebuilding after WW1, loss of colonies, The depression, Treaty of Versailles, fear of communism, collapse of League of nations, etc)
Now those were very poor choices and the world paid dearly for them.


Bernie is simply brilliant. He refers to Trump as racist just as Trump is rapidly gaining approval among Latinos and Blacks. Astute judgement I'd say.

The party of racism is and always was the Democraps.

The list of Democrap racism is long and vicious; it includes:
Slavery
The KKK
Wilson the racist
FDR the racist
School segregation
Segregation of public area
Segrgation of transportation
lynchings
Jim Crow laws
inter-marriage prohibition
etc, etc.

No Democrap can ever speak of racism as long as they are members of a political party that have never acknowledged their role as a cause of racial strife in the US. First class hippocrates.
Beautiful.

Picking a "side" is saying one is right(oops) and one is wrong. Dem's and Repub's both have bad things. I vote whatever way I want, what is left or right? A bunch of bullshit is what it is either way.

My quandary is why would anyone willingly give up their right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? It seems there are people that would rather give up others in our country and allow taxation without representation to US, us, we, and give said taxes to illegal's. What is frickin wrong with these so called elected officials that think highly of everyone except the people that actually pay.

We want tax records????? how about Maxine's, Pelosi, etc and then the folk in their districts? Let's see the taxes paid in that district. :evil:

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Re: Bernie Sanders calls Trump a racist before Apollo event

Post by gmrocket » Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:08 pm

David Redszus wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:29 pm
Dude, things evolve and reveal themselves, Hitler was considered for Time's man of the year, .
Hitler was on the cover of Time magazine in 1933. In 1938 he was selected as man of the year by Time magazine.
A lot of people (Henry Ford, Lindbergh,etc) made poor choices of false prophets in those very tumultuous times,
Their choices were not poor; the results became poor for other reasons.
between rebuilding after WW1, loss of colonies, The depression, Treaty of Versailles, fear of communism, collapse of League of nations, etc)
Now those were very poor choices and the world paid dearly for them.


Bernie is simply brilliant. He refers to Trump as racist just as Trump is rapidly gaining approval among Latinos and Blacks. Astute judgement I'd say.

The party of racism is and always was the Democraps.

The list of Democrap racism is long and vicious; it includes:
Slavery
The KKK
Wilson the racist
FDR the racist
School segregation
Segregation of public area
Segrgation of transportation
lynchings
Jim Crow laws
inter-marriage prohibition
etc, etc.

No Democrap can ever speak of racism as long as they are members of a political party that have never acknowledged their role as a cause of racial strife in the US. First class hippocrates.
Racism is thrown around so much these days it's lost it's meaning, especially when a life long government official , white rich old man,like Bernie screams it out....it's like he's screaming some obscure foreign word...

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Re: Bernie Sanders calls Trump a racist before Apollo event

Post by jet1 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:39 pm

Yes it really takes away from what racism really is. It does a major disservice to the actual people that experience it today and in the past.

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