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Re: Trump lies

Post by mk e » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:49 am

sanfordandson wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:45 am

Nope...so that makes it ok to have no morals like trump and his core base?
Its fine to have no morals.....until the moment you take an action society has branded immortal by criminalizing it.....like cheating in an election ;)
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Re: Trump lies

Post by sanfordandson » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:56 am

mk e wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:49 am
sanfordandson wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:45 am

Nope...so that makes it ok to have no morals like trump and his core base?
Its fine to have no morals.....until the moment you take an action society has branded immortal by criminalizing it.....like cheating in an election ;)
yea whoops....LOL.

Like I said..I'm glad trump has exposed his supporters for the scum they truly are.

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Re: Trump lies

Post by rebelrouser » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:04 pm

gmrocket wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:46 am
mk e wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:37 am
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Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:28 am

Sounds like your morality train has left the station.

why not just stick with impeachment because he's unpresidential? That's all you lefties had, and have....so why not stick with the original plan?
Impeachment is a political tool not a criminal one. Any crime could be used to start an impeachment, and there are currently plenty to choose from, but it needs to serve a political purpose. I'm not sure what political purpose it would serve so o don't see a point. Maybe take a symbolic vote in the 2020 lame duck? Maybe.....

Criminally there is no harm in waiting a couple years to charge the current crimes if that's what the DOJ believes is necessary under the law.
So " we now have collusion " is dead?

Come on man,,if there is "plenty", just do it...the left needs to put their money( stolen or not) where there mouth is.

You lefties have been preaching impeachment since Jan 2016,, now there is so much more,, plenty, why is impeachment not so high on the list?
The house can impeach, but the senate has to try the case. There is more than enough evidence even without the Mueller report to impeach Trump. But why go to the effort with democrats in the house, when it takes 2/3 thirds of the senate to convict, which by the actions of the senate over the last two years, will never happen no matter what Trump is charged with. What I read into it is they will want Trump to resign as Nixon did, in return for not prosecuting him on the campaign finance issues that Cohen has plead guilty to, and Trump directed. Probably the best way out of the whole mess, for the country and for Trump. Republicans paid a political price for the mickey mouse charges in Clintons impeachment, they want the Democrats to make the same mistake. Mitch McConnel has already said as much publicly. If Trump is stubborn and the Mueller report drops and it may be really bad for Trump, they may have to impeach, or could they let him just get defeated in 2020? Would the Republicans be dumb enough to run a candidate who is named as a unindicted coconspirator in a felony that people have already plead guilty to? So from a political standpoint if Democrats leave Trump in power and then let the Republican tear themselves apart in the primaries, might just be the smart play. For the good of the country we need to get rid of Trump NOW, but I just don't see it happening. The other issue Trump can not seem to find quality people to work for him, people are turning him down because they don't want their reputations to be ruined.

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Re: Trump lies

Post by gmrocket » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:54 pm

rebelrouser wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:04 pm
gmrocket wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:46 am
mk e wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:37 am


Impeachment is a political tool not a criminal one. Any crime could be used to start an impeachment, and there are currently plenty to choose from, but it needs to serve a political purpose. I'm not sure what political purpose it would serve so o don't see a point. Maybe take a symbolic vote in the 2020 lame duck? Maybe.....

Criminally there is no harm in waiting a couple years to charge the current crimes if that's what the DOJ believes is necessary under the law.
So " we now have collusion " is dead?

Come on man,,if there is "plenty", just do it...the left needs to put their money( stolen or not) where there mouth is.

You lefties have been preaching impeachment since Jan 2016,, now there is so much more,, plenty, why is impeachment not so high on the list?
The house can impeach, but the senate has to try the case. There is more than enough evidence even without the Mueller report to impeach Trump. But why go to the effort with democrats in the house, when it takes 2/3 thirds of the senate to convict, which by the actions of the senate over the last two years, will never happen no matter what Trump is charged with. What I read into it is they will want Trump to resign as Nixon did, in return for not prosecuting him on the campaign finance issues that Cohen has plead guilty to, and Trump directed. Probably the best way out of the whole mess, for the country and for Trump. Republicans paid a political price for the mickey mouse charges in Clintons impeachment, they want the Democrats to make the same mistake. Mitch McConnel has already said as much publicly. If Trump is stubborn and the Mueller report drops and it may be really bad for Trump, they may have to impeach, or could they let him just get defeated in 2020? Would the Republicans be dumb enough to run a candidate who is named as a unindicted coconspirator in a felony that people have already plead guilty to? So from a political standpoint if Democrats leave Trump in power and then let the Republican tear themselves apart in the primaries, might just be the smart play. For the good of the country we need to get rid of Trump NOW, but I just don't see it happening. The other issue Trump can not seem to find quality people to work for him, people are turning him down because they don't want their reputations to be ruined.
Again, can you specifically say what trump did that was illegal?

Short form, no long winded fairy tale.

The campaign finance thing was not illegal ,, that's a fact.

The lefties are all talking about moral issues..that's all they have and people don't give two craps about that

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Re: Trump lies

Post by 1989TransAm » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:21 pm

What is illegal about looking into Russian business interests? What is illegal about paying hush money to these women?

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Re: Trump lies

Post by rebelrouser » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:25 pm

gmrocket wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:54 pm
rebelrouser wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:04 pm
gmrocket wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:46 am


So " we now have collusion " is dead?

Come on man,,if there is "plenty", just do it...the left needs to put their money( stolen or not) where there mouth is.

You lefties have been preaching impeachment since Jan 2016,, now there is so much more,, plenty, why is impeachment not so high on the list?
The house can impeach, but the senate has to try the case. There is more than enough evidence even without the Mueller report to impeach Trump. But why go to the effort with democrats in the house, when it takes 2/3 thirds of the senate to convict, which by the actions of the senate over the last two years, will never happen no matter what Trump is charged with. What I read into it is they will want Trump to resign as Nixon did, in return for not prosecuting him on the campaign finance issues that Cohen has plead guilty to, and Trump directed. Probably the best way out of the whole mess, for the country and for Trump. Republicans paid a political price for the mickey mouse charges in Clintons impeachment, they want the Democrats to make the same mistake. Mitch McConnel has already said as much publicly. If Trump is stubborn and the Mueller report drops and it may be really bad for Trump, they may have to impeach, or could they let him just get defeated in 2020? Would the Republicans be dumb enough to run a candidate who is named as a unindicted coconspirator in a felony that people have already plead guilty to? So from a political standpoint if Democrats leave Trump in power and then let the Republican tear themselves apart in the primaries, might just be the smart play. For the good of the country we need to get rid of Trump NOW, but I just don't see it happening. The other issue Trump can not seem to find quality people to work for him, people are turning him down because they don't want their reputations to be ruined.
Again, can you specifically say what trump did that was illegal?

Short form, no long winded fairy tale.

The campaign finance thing was not illegal ,, that's a fact.

The lefties are all talking about moral issues..that's all they have and people don't give two craps about that
You need to ask a lawyer, but the campaign finance thing is a felony. Cohen will serve time for it, and Trump told him to do it, and participated in the cover up. Trump campaign did work with Russia, Trump did know about the email hacking. Nixon had burglars go in and steal paperwork, Trump had people hack emails, same crime different way to do it. Trump fired FBI director and admitted on national TV that it was because of the Russia investigation, he lied about the Trump tower meeting, what it was about, that is obstruction of Justice. He has violated the emoluments clause by not divesting his business interests, and making money having our government and foreign governments pay to use his hotels. It has cost the tax payers 6.6 million just in air travel for trump to go to Mar-a-lago in 2017 alone. He's a billionare why should we pay for such rich living?

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-mar-lago ... ort-758877

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Re: Trump lies

Post by gmrocket » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:34 pm

rebelrouser wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:25 pm
gmrocket wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:54 pm
rebelrouser wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:04 pm


The house can impeach, but the senate has to try the case. There is more than enough evidence even without the Mueller report to impeach Trump. But why go to the effort with democrats in the house, when it takes 2/3 thirds of the senate to convict, which by the actions of the senate over the last two years, will never happen no matter what Trump is charged with. What I read into it is they will want Trump to resign as Nixon did, in return for not prosecuting him on the campaign finance issues that Cohen has plead guilty to, and Trump directed. Probably the best way out of the whole mess, for the country and for Trump. Republicans paid a political price for the mickey mouse charges in Clintons impeachment, they want the Democrats to make the same mistake. Mitch McConnel has already said as much publicly. If Trump is stubborn and the Mueller report drops and it may be really bad for Trump, they may have to impeach, or could they let him just get defeated in 2020? Would the Republicans be dumb enough to run a candidate who is named as a unindicted coconspirator in a felony that people have already plead guilty to? So from a political standpoint if Democrats leave Trump in power and then let the Republican tear themselves apart in the primaries, might just be the smart play. For the good of the country we need to get rid of Trump NOW, but I just don't see it happening. The other issue Trump can not seem to find quality people to work for him, people are turning him down because they don't want their reputations to be ruined.
Again, can you specifically say what trump did that was illegal?

Short form, no long winded fairy tale.

The campaign finance thing was not illegal ,, that's a fact.

The lefties are all talking about moral issues..that's all they have and people don't give two craps about that
You need to ask a lawyer, but the campaign finance thing is a felony. Cohen will serve time for it, and Trump told him to do it, and participated in the cover up. Trump campaign did work with Russia, Trump did know about the email hacking. Nixon had burglars go in and steal paperwork, Trump had people hack emails, same crime different way to do it. Trump fired FBI director and admitted on national TV that it was because of the Russia investigation, he lied about the Trump tower meeting, what it was about, that is obstruction of Justice. He has violated the emoluments clause by not divesting his business interests, and making money having our government and foreign governments pay to use his hotels. It has cost the tax payers 6.6 million just in air travel for trump to go to Mar-a-lago in 2017 alone. He's a billionare why should we pay for such rich living?

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-mar-lago ... ort-758877
Nope, try again

It was his own money. Cohen is not going to serve time for that either. His time will be for getting the timeline wrong on the not illegal development deal talks that never happened.

You should quit watching CNN...

Try again

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Re: Trump lies

Post by mk e » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:39 pm

rebelrouser wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:25 pm
You need to ask a lawyer, but the campaign finance thing is a felony. Cohen will serve time for it, and Trump told him to do it, and participated in the cover up. Trump campaign did work with Russia, Trump did know about the email hacking. .....
You might as well be talking to a stump... .....the only response you're going to get for a Rump supporter is "did not!"
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Re: Trump lies

Post by rebelrouser » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:52 pm

gmrocket wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:34 pm
rebelrouser wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:25 pm
gmrocket wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:54 pm


Again, can you specifically say what trump did that was illegal?

Short form, no long winded fairy tale.

The campaign finance thing was not illegal ,, that's a fact.

The lefties are all talking about moral issues..that's all they have and people don't give two craps about that
You need to ask a lawyer, but the campaign finance thing is a felony. Cohen will serve time for it, and Trump told him to do it, and participated in the cover up. Trump campaign did work with Russia, Trump did know about the email hacking. Nixon had burglars go in and steal paperwork, Trump had people hack emails, same crime different way to do it. Trump fired FBI director and admitted on national TV that it was because of the Russia investigation, he lied about the Trump tower meeting, what it was about, that is obstruction of Justice. He has violated the emoluments clause by not divesting his business interests, and making money having our government and foreign governments pay to use his hotels. It has cost the tax payers 6.6 million just in air travel for trump to go to Mar-a-lago in 2017 alone. He's a billionare why should we pay for such rich living?

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-mar-lago ... ort-758877
Nope, try again

It was his own money. Cohen is not going to serve time for that either. His time will be for getting the timeline wrong on the not illegal development deal talks that never happened.

You should quit watching CNN...

Try again
Read the court filings, and Trump IS NOT PAYING for travel to his resort, the tax payers are.
https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/pol ... 90801.html

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-wor ... f-outings/

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Re: Trump lies

Post by GRTfast » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:03 pm

rebelrouser wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:52 pm
gmrocket wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:34 pm
rebelrouser wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:25 pm


You need to ask a lawyer, but the campaign finance thing is a felony. Cohen will serve time for it, and Trump told him to do it, and participated in the cover up. Trump campaign did work with Russia, Trump did know about the email hacking. Nixon had burglars go in and steal paperwork, Trump had people hack emails, same crime different way to do it. Trump fired FBI director and admitted on national TV that it was because of the Russia investigation, he lied about the Trump tower meeting, what it was about, that is obstruction of Justice. He has violated the emoluments clause by not divesting his business interests, and making money having our government and foreign governments pay to use his hotels. It has cost the tax payers 6.6 million just in air travel for trump to go to Mar-a-lago in 2017 alone. He's a billionare why should we pay for such rich living?

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-mar-lago ... ort-758877
Nope, try again

It was his own money. Cohen is not going to serve time for that either. His time will be for getting the timeline wrong on the not illegal development deal talks that never happened.

You should quit watching CNN...

Try again
Read the court filings, and Trump IS NOT PAYING for travel to his resort, the tax payers are.
https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/pol ... 90801.html

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-wor ... f-outings/
...add court filings to the list of what constitutes fake news. :lol:

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Re: Trump lies

Post by Firedome8 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:04 pm

1989TransAm wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:21 pm
What is illegal about looking into Russian business interests? What is illegal about paying hush money to these women?
Just watched this today,

In a lengthy segment with America’s Newsroom anchor Bill Hemmer, Napolitano spared no hard truths in his assessment of Trump’s legal jeopardy. He began by delivering the news that the Michael Cohen sentencing memo is “dangerous” to Trump because it implicates him in the crimes to which Cohen pleaded guilty, and noted that the Southern District of New York “wouldn’t make an allegation like that if they didn’t have evidence to support it.”

Fox

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Re: Trump lies

Post by mk e » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:09 pm

GRTfast wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:03 pm
...add court filings to the list of what constitutes fake news. :lol:
It's the deep state man, they're everywhere! They even got Rump to nominate judges and prosecutors they control, they're all working for Hillary who's controlled by Soros!


....or the rightwing nut jobs elected a pos swamp thing criminal ;)
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Re: Trump lies

Post by gmrocket » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:11 pm

rebelrouser wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:52 pm
gmrocket wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:34 pm
rebelrouser wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:25 pm


You need to ask a lawyer, but the campaign finance thing is a felony. Cohen will serve time for it, and Trump told him to do it, and participated in the cover up. Trump campaign did work with Russia, Trump did know about the email hacking. Nixon had burglars go in and steal paperwork, Trump had people hack emails, same crime different way to do it. Trump fired FBI director and admitted on national TV that it was because of the Russia investigation, he lied about the Trump tower meeting, what it was about, that is obstruction of Justice. He has violated the emoluments clause by not divesting his business interests, and making money having our government and foreign governments pay to use his hotels. It has cost the tax payers 6.6 million just in air travel for trump to go to Mar-a-lago in 2017 alone. He's a billionare why should we pay for such rich living?

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-mar-lago ... ort-758877
Nope, try again

It was his own money. Cohen is not going to serve time for that either. His time will be for getting the timeline wrong on the not illegal development deal talks that never happened.

You should quit watching CNN...

Try again
Read the court filings, and Trump IS NOT PAYING for travel to his resort, the tax payers are.
https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/pol ... 90801.html

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-wor ... f-outings/
Keep trying,, all that's says is some trusted Russian "tried " to make contact....Had nothing to do with Trump. Could have been about the development deal, who knows? There was no response back from Trump.

Your trying to connect some development deal, that went no where, to Trump winning because of some known help from Russia

Would make a real cool fiction novel, but it ain't true.

And as far as him golfing in his spare time, who gives a shyt. It's his passion and hobby, Obama liked to golf....who cares. When your the president that's the deal. If you like basketball, Air Force 1 and a bunch of secret agents would be there ...

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Re: Trump lies

Post by gmrocket » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:17 pm

GRTfast wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:03 pm
rebelrouser wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:52 pm
gmrocket wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:34 pm


Nope, try again

It was his own money. Cohen is not going to serve time for that either. His time will be for getting the timeline wrong on the not illegal development deal talks that never happened.

You should quit watching CNN...

Try again
Read the court filings, and Trump IS NOT PAYING for travel to his resort, the tax payers are.
https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/pol ... 90801.html

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-wor ... f-outings/
...add court filings to the list of what constitutes fake news. :lol:
It's court filings on how Trump did not respond to a request from Russia....

Are you hoping the word "filings" will scare people into thinking he's guilty of not contacting some unknown Russian?

It's quite the case against Trump, last time I didn't return a call.... the police showed up at my door and said I was rude.

Keep trying you guys....

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Re: Trump lies

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