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Another the rich have different rules

Post by j-c-c » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:00 pm

"Mr. Epstein’s case has received renewed scrutiny in the wake of a recent investigative report in The Miami Herald that included accounts from four victims, now adults, detailing how they were abused and paid to recruit more girls to Mr. Epstein’s network. His plea deal, seen as lenient for a sexual predator of children, was approved by R. Alexander Acosta, who was then a United States attorney in Miami and is now President Trump’s labor secretary.

On Friday, 15 Democratic members of Congress, led by Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida, sent a letter to the inspector general of the Justice Department, asking for an investigation into the circumstances surrounding the “extremely preferential deal” approved by Mr. Acosta, whose office did not pursue a 53-page indictment drafted against Mr. Epstein.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/04/us/j ... court.html

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Post by rebelrouser » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:22 pm

Justice is expensive how much can you afford? The minor issues I have been in court about, this rule holds very true.

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Re: Another the rich have different rules

Post by j-c-c » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:02 pm

So the guy is rich, allegedly there are over 80? assaulted underage female victims, spanning decades, he associated with the likes of Bill Clinton, Allan Derkowitz, well known celebrities, and many highly placed Republicans, the police assembled a 53 count indictment, after the state ran away from the prosecution, The FBI became involved, and the current sitting secretary of labor, as Federal Prosecutor decided to not proceed, all to the chagrin of the WPB Police Chief and its detectives.

Again, its who you know, and how much money you got. [-X

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Re: Another the rich have different rules

Post by pdq67 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:39 pm

How did Don Corleone get that Senator in his back pocket?

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Post by 86_regal » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:08 pm

j-c-c wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:00 pm
"Mr. Epstein’s case has received renewed scrutiny in the wake of a recent investigative report in The Miami Herald that included accounts from four victims, now adults, detailing how they were abused and paid to recruit more girls to Mr. Epstein’s network. His plea deal, seen as lenient for a sexual predator of children, was approved by R. Alexander Acosta, who was then a United States attorney in Miami and is now President Trump’s labor secretary.

On Friday, 15 Democratic members of Congress, led by Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida, sent a letter to the inspector general of the Justice Department, asking for an investigation into the circumstances surrounding the “extremely preferential deal” approved by Mr. Acosta, whose office did not pursue a 53-page indictment drafted against Mr. Epstein.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/04/us/j ... court.html
Blame the rich? Only???

So none of this has to do with prosecutorial discretion? Political connections? Sentencing discretion amongst judges?

The CORE issue as I see it is the axiomatic abuse of inflated political power/authority. People like Epstein would not be incentivized to buy their way out such matters if those aforementioned DID NOT POSESS the authority they've been granted.

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Post by j-c-c » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:25 pm

86_regal wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:08 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:00 pm
"Mr. Epstein’s case has received renewed scrutiny in the wake of a recent investigative report in The Miami Herald that included accounts from four victims, now adults, detailing how they were abused and paid to recruit more girls to Mr. Epstein’s network. His plea deal, seen as lenient for a sexual predator of children, was approved by R. Alexander Acosta, who was then a United States attorney in Miami and is now President Trump’s labor secretary.

On Friday, 15 Democratic members of Congress, led by Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida, sent a letter to the inspector general of the Justice Department, asking for an investigation into the circumstances surrounding the “extremely preferential deal” approved by Mr. Acosta, whose office did not pursue a 53-page indictment drafted against Mr. Epstein.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/04/us/j ... court.html
Blame the rich? Only???

So none of this has to do with prosecutorial discretion? Political connections? Sentencing discretion amongst judges?

The CORE issue as I see it is the axiomatic abuse of inflated political power/authority. People like Epstein would not be incentivized to buy their way out such matters if those aforementioned DID NOT POSESS the authority they've been granted.

Not sure what you core point was, mine, money buys power/influence, this perp is a great example.
Why those with less money always suffer more under the law, and that is inherently unjust.

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Re: Another the rich have different rules

Post by pdq67 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:24 pm

Imho, if LHO would shoot Epstein right between the eyes, then maybe, just maybe some of the other as*holes might stop and think about the consequences of what they are doing IF caught!

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Post by David Redszus » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:58 pm

Not sure what you core point was, mine, money buys power/influence, this perp is a great example.
Why those with less money always suffer more under the law, and that is inherently unjust.
Duh...twas always thus.

Equal treatment under the law does not assure equitable outcome. It merely assures an equal opportunity
to hire the best lawyer you can afford. That is not unjust - it is fair under the law.

Or sexual predators could simply hire Hillary to defend them. :lol:

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Re: Another the rich have different rules

Post by 1989TransAm » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:19 pm

Epstein is one of Bill and Hillary's best friends.

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Post by Firedome8 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:09 pm

Senior American officials were worried. Since the early months of the Trump administration, Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and Middle East adviser, had been having private, informal conversations with Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the favorite son of Saudi Arabia’s king. . . . The exchanges continued even after the Oct. 2 killing of Jamal Khashoggi, the Saudi journalist who was ambushed and dismembered by Saudi agents, according to two former senior American officials and the two people briefed by the Saudis. . . .

According to the Saudi, Mr. Kushner has offered the crown prince advice about how to weather the storm, urging him to resolve his conflicts around the region and avoid further embarrassments.


As a preliminary matter. we should recognize this as yet another example of why a president should not put a relative in a position of power — especially if the relative possesses questionable judgment and is utterly unqualified for the job. “In one way it makes sense, I suppose — irrationally self-confident princeling confabulating with irrationally self-confident princeling,” Eliot Cohen, a frequent critic of President Trump and veteran of the George W. Bush State Department, said in an interview.

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Re: Another the rich have different rules

Post by j-c-c » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:39 pm

David Redszus wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:58 pm
Not sure what you core point was, mine, money buys power/influence, this perp is a great example.
Why those with less money always suffer more under the law, and that is inherently unjust.
Duh...twas always thus.

Equal treatment under the law does not assure equitable outcome. It merely assures an equal opportunity
to hire the best lawyer you can afford. That is not unjust - it is fair under the law.
So why is it understood that if you cannot afford an attorney, one will be furnished?

That doesn't dovetail with your everyone has an "equal opportunity" to hire a lawyer end result.

Bottom line, the laws are enforced mainly for the middle class, everyone else gets to exploit their financial standing.

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Re: Another the rich have different rules

Post by pdq67 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:55 pm

1989TransAm wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:19 pm
Epstein is one of Bill and Hillary's best friends.
Don't get SOME of US started on this!!

Fu*king DEPRAVED people as I see them!!

Where is LHO at when we need him?

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