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‘Ballot Harvesting,’ California Dems’ Latest Election Stealing Tool

Post by 1989TransAm » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:14 am

"In 2016, California took yet another significant step in its decades-long quest to become the world’s largest banana republic when then-Governor Jerry Brown signed AB 1921, a then-barely-noticed revision to the state’s vote-by-mail procedures.
The change was a small but significant one. California, in its infinite wisdom, decided to make the practice of “ballot harvesting” legal. Thus, instead of only relatives or those living in the same household being allowed to legally collect and turn in absentee ballots for voters - as was previously the law - any “third party” can do it, including activist groups, Democratic operatives, or street-corner panhandlers.
As a ‘service to voters,’ don’tcha know.
Seriously, what could possibly go wrong?
The answer is not much ... not if you’re a Democrat that is.
Figuring out new and creative ways to steal elections being their specialty and all, Democrats knew what they were doing, and even a few conservatives saw this bill’s consequences coming from a mile away.
“AB 1921 would allow anybody to walk into an elections office and hand over truckloads of vote by mail envelopes with ballots inside, no questions asked, no verified records kept,” a group opposed to the bill wrote before its passage. “It amounts to an open invitation to large-scale vote buying, voter coercion, ‘granny farming,’ and automated forgery. AB 1921 solves no problem that a simple stamp can’t solve.
And so, as the polls closed on election day, no less than six California Republican House candidates - including Representatives Dana Rohrabacher, Steve Knight, and Mimi Walters - were ahead in their respective races, some comfortably enough to declare victory and move on with plans for the next Congressional term. However, as absentee and provisional ballot results rolled in over the next few days and weeks, the vast majority of which predictably favored Democrats, their Democratic opponents managed to ‘find’ enough votes to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.
In Orange County alone, 250,000 such ballots were collected, resulting in a total Democratic sweep, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.
The statewide results even drew the attention of the normally squishy soon-to-be former House Speaker Paul Ryan.

“California just defies logic to me,” Ryan told attendees at a Washington Post live event. “We were only down 26 seats the night of the election, and three weeks later, we lost basically every California contested race. This election system they have — I can’t begin to understand what ‘ballot harvesting’ is.
Allow me to explain, Mr. Soon-To-Be Former Speaker. “Ballot harvesting” is yet another tactic Democrats are using to cheat their way to electoral victory, because cheating is what they do best.
Ryan, true to form, refrained from directly accusing Democrats of anything nefarious, because ‘civility’ and whatnot, but the fact remains that putting systems in place that allow the ability to cheat with a low likelihood of getting caught, then turning a blind eye to it when it actually happens, is actually, well, cheating. So why not call a spade a spade?
Consider “Lulu,” who was recorded in October trying to “harvest” what she thought was a Democratic voter’s ballot in Rep. Knight’s district. It’s a “new service,” Lulu told the skeptical lady, for “like, people who are supporting the Democratic party.”
Color me shocked. And it’s not like they’re even trying to hide it. The San Francisco Chronicle reported:

“We beat Republicans on the ground, fair and square,” said Katie Merrill, a Democratic consultant deeply involved in November campaigns. “Many of the field plans included (ballot harvesting) as an option to deliver voters or their ballots” to the polls.

Those efforts involved identifying voters who might support Democratic candidates and ignoring those who wouldn’t.

In one Orange County household, for example, both the husband and wife were longtime Republicans, said Dale Neugebauer, a veteran Republican consultant. Democratic volunteers came by the house four times, each time asking to speak only with their 18-year-old daughter, a no-party-preference voter, and asking if she wanted them to pick up her signed and completed ballot.

That’s a perfect example of the “thorough and disciplined” ground game the Democrats used, said Merrill.

“We were not wasting time talking to people who weren’t going to vote for Democrats,” she said.
Imagine the ramifications, or the ‘possibilities’ if you’re a Dem. What happens if, for example, Lulu’s next house visit has a “Make America Great Again” flag planted in the front yard? Could Lulu go there, pretend to be a Republican, then toss the completed ballot in the trash on the way to Ben & Jerry’s? Of course she could, and the likelihood of getting caught would be next to zero. Could she then go to someone’s home who had no intention of voting, then ‘convince’ them to vote Democrat and give their ballot to her or else their next social security check won’t be coming? Again, yes she could."

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Re: ‘Ballot Harvesting,’ California Dems’ Latest Election Stealing Tool

Post by 1989TransAm » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:17 am

“Ballot Harvesting” Added Over 250,000 Votes in Orange County – Flipping Four Seats Blue"

"Very few people took notice when far left Governor Jerry Brown signed the changes in AB1921 into law two years ago.
As a result, California lost 7 of its 14 Republican House seats this election cycle."

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Re: ‘Ballot Harvesting,’ California Dems’ Latest Election Stealing Tool

Post by mk e » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:49 am

It looks like the Repubs used this technique to win a house seat in NC.
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Re: ‘Ballot Harvesting,’ California Dems’ Latest Election Stealing Tool

Post by j-c-c » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:55 am

“It amounts to an open invitation to large-scale vote buying, voter coercion, ‘granny farming,’ and automated forgery. "

So lets then see some proof of who accepted the "invitation".

Because at least three of the above mentioned methods I believe are felonies.

Not sure who is to blame for a little known law 2 years old, that is accused of costing one party seats in an election, without proof.

Sounds like a sore loser syndrome, you guys are all familiar with that response, right?

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Re: ‘Ballot Harvesting,’ California Dems’ Latest Election Stealing Tool

Post by pdq67 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:06 am

I got to ask!!

What is wrong with me showing up at the Polling place, showing a valid ID AND FU*KING VOTING!

Absentee/mail-in ballots for the Military ONLY and that's all.

What should be good for the POT is good for the KETTLE as I see it!!

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Re: ‘Ballot Harvesting,’ California Dems’ Latest Election Stealing Tool

Post by j-c-c » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:17 pm

pdq67 wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:06 am
I got to ask!!

What is wrong with me showing up at the Polling place, showing a valid ID AND FU*KING VOTING!

Absentee/mail-in ballots for the Military ONLY and that's all.
1. Standing in line for hours while incompetent poll workers sort out a mess
2. Standing in line in bad weather
3, Standing in line for the elderly and infirm
4. People that need to travel for business or pleasure
5. People that realize early voting is much more efficient for everybody

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Re: ‘Ballot Harvesting,’ California Dems’ Latest Election Stealing Tool

Post by 1989TransAm » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:23 pm

This is what dictators do. [-X

"California Democrats rewrite the voting rules in their favor"

"Election night was painful for California Republicans, but it was nothing compared to the slow torture we’ve endured ever since.
For three agonizing weeks, Republicans have watched registrars update their tallies with late absentee and provisional ballots. From Orange County to the Bay Area, it’s the same story playing out with different candidates: Democrats flipping seats with late ballots.
First, Mimi Walters. Then, Young Kim. Now, David Valadao.
It’s not unusual for late absentee and provisional ballots to break against Republicans. What is unusual is the scale of the carnage. As of this writing, Republicans lost election night leads for five members of Congress, three state Assembly races, two state Senate seats and a Board of Equalization candidate.
Even the Associated Press was caught off-guard by late ballot counting. It has called California’s 21st Congressional District for Republican incumbent David Valadao only to retract its decision three weeks later. If the independent organization “which sets the standard for calling races across the journalism industry” is getting races wrong, something’s changed in California.
Legislative Democrats have rewritten election rules in their favor to expand voter eligibility, automatically register every voter, eliminate voting integrity laws and encourage questionable campaign tactics, such as ballot harvesting.
California has entered an era of near universal suffrage with illegal immigrants, felons, inmates and minors registering to vote. San Francisco now allows “people in the country illegally and other noncitizens the right to vote in a local election,” according to the Associated Press. The city has spent at least $310,000 in tax dollars to register 49 non-citizens to vote."

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Re: ‘Ballot Harvesting,’ California Dems’ Latest Election Stealing Tool

Post by j-c-c » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:21 pm

1989TransAm wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:23 pm
This is what dictators do. [-X

"California Democrats rewrite the voting rules in their favor"

"Election night was painful for California Republicans, but it was nothing compared to the slow torture we’ve endured ever since.
For three agonizing weeks, Republicans have watched registrars update their tallies with late absentee and provisional ballots. From Orange County to the Bay Area, it’s the same story playing out with different candidates: Democrats flipping seats with late ballots.
First, Mimi Walters. Then, Young Kim. Now, David Valadao.
It’s not unusual for late absentee and provisional ballots to break against Republicans. What is unusual is the scale of the carnage. As of this writing, Republicans lost election night leads for five members of Congress, three state Assembly races, two state Senate seats and a Board of Equalization candidate.
Even the Associated Press was caught off-guard by late ballot counting. It has called California’s 21st Congressional District for Republican incumbent David Valadao only to retract its decision three weeks later. If the independent organization “which sets the standard for calling races across the journalism industry” is getting races wrong, something’s changed in California.
Legislative Democrats have rewritten election rules in their favor to expand voter eligibility, automatically register every voter, eliminate voting integrity laws and encourage questionable campaign tactics, such as ballot harvesting.
California has entered an era of near universal suffrage with illegal immigrants, felons, inmates and minors registering to vote. San Francisco now allows “people in the country illegally and other noncitizens the right to vote in a local election,” according to the Associated Press. The city has spent at least $310,000 in tax dollars to register 49 non-citizens to vote."

https://www.ocregister.com/2018/12/01/c ... eir-favor/
Only when they are from the opposing side, right?

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Re: ‘Ballot Harvesting,’ California Dems’ Latest Election Stealing Tool

Post by 1989TransAm » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:24 pm

mk e wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:49 am
It looks like the Repubs used this technique to win a house seat in NC.
You don't even know what "ballot harvesting" is by that inane statement. [-X

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Re: ‘Ballot Harvesting,’ California Dems’ Latest Election Stealing Tool

Post by mk e » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:26 am

1989TransAm wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:24 pm
mk e wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:49 am
It looks like the Repubs used this technique to win a house seat in NC.
You don't even know what "ballot harvesting" is by that inane statement. [-X
Ahhh....have you been following the 9th district in NC news?

The issue is a Republican political operative drove around and collected ballots then drlivered at least 600 to a polling station to be counted....that is the issue you're troubled by is it not?

Any idea why an issue was raised now about a 2 year old law in CA that doesn't appear to have caused any problems? Hint..the goal is to distract you from the practice that was used to secure a house seat in NC.
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Re: ‘Ballot Harvesting,’ California Dems’ Latest Election Stealing Tool

Post by 1989TransAm » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:33 am

mk e wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:26 am
1989TransAm wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:24 pm
mk e wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:49 am
It looks like the Repubs used this technique to win a house seat in NC.
You don't even know what "ballot harvesting" is by that inane statement. [-X
Ahhh....have you been following the 9th district in NC news?

The issue is a Republican political operative drove around and collected ballots then drlivered at least 600 to a polling station to be counted....that is the issue you're troubled by is it not?

Any idea why an issue was raised now about a 2 year old law in CA that doesn't appear to have caused any problems? Hint..the goal is to distract you from the practice that was used to secure a house seat in NC.
As you pointed out there is a law in California that allows a 3rd party to gather ballots. The is ripe for fraud and that is what happened. In NC there is no such law. Then you have Florida where all types of shenanigans took place in dimoKKKRAT controlled counties.

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Re: ‘Ballot Harvesting,’ California Dems’ Latest Election Stealing Tool

Post by mk e » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:38 am

1989TransAm wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:33 am

As you pointed out there is a law in California that allows a 3rd party to gather ballots. The is ripe for fraud and that is what happened. In NC there is no such law. Then you have Florida where all types of shenanigans took place in dimoKKKRAT controlled counties.
You're talking about hypotheticals as if they are real, they aren't. The only place this is known to have happened is NC.
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