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Republican position on healthcare.

Post by Firedome8 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:36 pm

What is the Republican position on pre existing conditions going in to midterms?

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Post by exhaustgases » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:49 pm

Your the expert. I know the demonrats want to give everyone medicare. So does that mean no more parts involved in it B, D etc. ? And how fast will the demonrats bankrupt Medicare so us ones that paid for it won't get it? I hear they want to pay everyone a wage for no work too, so they, your demonrats want to put all the working age kids on social security as well. The demons don't want my generation the "sh...t" generation getting what they paid for do they? My generation is blessed with adult offspring that are everlasting diaper babys that leach off their parents, no golden years for us, just more crap years. Oh and medical care for us will be decided by our controlling ones that, "your too old for that treatment" "But we will offer assisted suicide" so they can spend more on those blessed immigrants and non working spoiled up coming brats that bust their b...lls skate boarding or stumbling out of a bar.

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Post by j-c-c » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:25 pm

Firedome8 wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:36 pm
What is the Republican position on pre existing conditions going in to midterms?
DT's position, the republicans leadership position is they can't talk with their mouth full:

1. They want you to forget that DT's Day One Campaign promise was to repeal ACA, that of course included existing conditions
2. They will gut ACA every chance the can, which they have attempted and succeeded to a degree
3. They will promise the voters anything
4. And when the deficit keeps exploding, they will say, sorry, things change
5. Then they will announce, We won, get over it

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Re: Republican position on healthcare.

Post by 1989TransAm » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:57 pm

Firedome8 wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:36 pm
What is the Republican position on pre existing conditions going in to midterms?
President Trump has stated repeatedly that we have to accept pre existing conditions on healthcare. He has been stating this for quite sometime at his rallys. The dimoKKKRATS are flat out lying about this issue.

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Post by 86_regal » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:54 am

Allow me to be the asshole and talk about the elephant in the room...

Is an Insurance company providing insurance if they’re required to cover pre-existing conditions for the same premiums as those that don’t? How long would a home insurance provider remain viable if it allowed its clients to insure their currently half burned down home to cover the repair costs?

If you want to continue ignoring reality, go ahead, blame those greedy insurance companies. If one has an interest in accepting reality, it would explain why the EXPANSION of insurance coverage has resulted in more EXPENSIVE insurance coverage.

At the expense of being curt and dispassionate, i believe it’s worth noting that those who DO have a pre-existing condition such as cancer, aren’t killed by the insurance company’s or the doctor’s refusal to pay for treatment, they’re killed by the cancer. AND... Something you will NEVER here from anyone in medical community or in political sphere which cannot be ignored. Despite the VERY BEST the medical industry has to offer, at the end of the day they’re only delaying the inevitable.

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Post by Firedome8 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:15 pm

1989TransAm wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:57 pm
Firedome8 wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:36 pm
What is the Republican position on pre existing conditions going in to midterms?
President Trump has stated repeatedly that we have to accept pre existing conditions on healthcare. He has been stating this for quite sometime at his rallys. The dimoKKKRATS are flat out lying about this issue.
Didn't the Republicans vote to repeal that 50 + times, and fail.

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Post by rebelrouser » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:31 pm

86_regal wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:54 am
Allow me to be the asshole and talk about the elephant in the room...

Is an Insurance company providing insurance if they’re required to cover pre-existing conditions for the same premiums as those that don’t? How long would a home insurance provider remain viable if it allowed its clients to insure their currently half burned down home to cover the repair costs?

If you want to continue ignoring reality, go ahead, blame those greedy insurance companies. If one has an interest in accepting reality, it would explain why the EXPANSION of insurance coverage has resulted in more EXPENSIVE insurance coverage.

At the expense of being curt and dispassionate, i believe it’s worth noting that those who DO have a pre-existing condition such as cancer, aren’t killed by the insurance company’s or the doctor’s refusal to pay for treatment, they’re killed by the cancer. AND... Something you will NEVER here from anyone in medical community or in political sphere which cannot be ignored. Despite the VERY BEST the medical industry has to offer, at the end of the day they’re only delaying the inevitable.
So the real elephant in the room is, only healthy people should receive and pay for health care, if your sick, just do everybody a favor and die, right? Typical insurance catch 22, pay your premiums, but don't try and collect, as it cuts into the profits, they always can come up with a reason not to pay. Insurance is a gamble and funny how insurance companies always try and renege on the bet. Every modern industrial country in the world provides health care for its citizens except for the USA. Some how Republicans have convinced their followers that going bankrupt any time you have a health problem is normal, and if your sick, why would you need to buy health insurance? Have you ever seen a sick and dying family member that was just to expensive to try and get healthy? Check your facts, we do not have the best health care in the world, other people live longer and pay much less than we do. Another example of people believing their own propaganda.
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/cha ... item-start

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Post by rebelrouser » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:41 pm

Firedome8 wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:36 pm
What is the Republican position on pre existing conditions going in to midterms?
Republicans have no position on health car except to repeal Obama care. No plan to reduce costs, no plan to replace Obama care, no plan to reduce drug costs, they ranted and raved for 8 years got control of the government and had no idea how to make health care better or more affordable. The only reason they are making a half hearted attempt to say they support pre-existing conditions is that they are afraid of losing the midterms. Many GOP state officials are claiming to support pre-existing conditions, while filing and supporting a lawsuit to end the policy.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... rotections

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Post by 1989TransAm » Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:09 am

Pure ignorance on display. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This what happens when you only get you news from CNN and the Morning Joe program. [-X

President Trump has always stated they he was for supporting people with pre-medical conditions.

One is letting people form co-ops so that they can group together and get better pricing for there coverage. More at the link.

https://www.ajc.com/news/national/donal ... gP67sTnjL/

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Post by GRTfast » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:25 am

86_regal wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:54 am
Allow me to be the asshole and talk about the elephant in the room...

Is an Insurance company providing insurance if they’re required to cover pre-existing conditions for the same premiums as those that don’t? How long would a home insurance provider remain viable if it allowed its clients to insure their currently half burned down home to cover the repair costs?

If you want to continue ignoring reality, go ahead, blame those greedy insurance companies. If one has an interest in accepting reality, it would explain why the EXPANSION of insurance coverage has resulted in more EXPENSIVE insurance coverage.

At the expense of being curt and dispassionate, i believe it’s worth noting that those who DO have a pre-existing condition such as cancer, aren’t killed by the insurance company’s or the doctor’s refusal to pay for treatment, they’re killed by the cancer. AND... Something you will NEVER here from anyone in medical community or in political sphere which cannot be ignored. Despite the VERY BEST the medical industry has to offer, at the end of the day they’re only delaying the inevitable.
A for profit healthcare system is fundamentally flawed in my opinion. This is one place where I depart with my usual lean towards libertarian/capitalist philosophy. When an industry is profit driven, profit is THE number one priority. There is no way that the best decision for an individual's healthcare will always (or even mostly) align with the best decision for the shareholders. If we completely end corporate subsidies, stop trying to be the world police with our military, prevent insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies from working to price fix drugs, we could lower taxes for everyone, and have plenty of money to inject into the healthcare system to ensure all people have an adequate level of care that doesn't bankrupt them when they have something bad happen. It is a complex issue for sure, but the current state of healthcare in this country is awful in comparison to most industrialized nations.

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Post by Firedome8 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:30 am

1989TransAm wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:57 pm
Firedome8 wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:36 pm
What is the Republican position on pre existing conditions going in to midterms?
President Trump has stated repeatedly that we have to accept pre existing conditions on healthcare. He has been stating this for quite sometime at his rallys. The dimoKKKRATS are flat out lying about this issue.
But dump is a f liar...the f Republican candidate's say one thing and then do another and your information sources hide that from thair minions. Or thair cognitive ability is lacking and they can not understand reality. The GOP works for corporations get that in your f head the gop does not work for the people.

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Post by 1989TransAm » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:12 am

Another ignorant one. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ He has kept more campaign promises than any other President I can remember.

President Trump has signed into law a provision that helps our veterans. If they have to wait to long to see a VA doctor they can now go to a private doctor.

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Post by Firedome8 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:13 am

1989TransAm wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:12 am
Another ignorant one. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

President Trump has signed into law a provision that helps our veterans. If they have to wait to long to see a VA doctor they can now go to a private doctor.
Good I'll let you know how that works.

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Re: Republican position on healthcare.

Post by j-c-c » Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:33 pm

86_regal wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:54 am
Allow me to be the asshole and talk about the elephant in the room...

Is an Insurance company providing insurance if they’re required to cover pre-existing conditions for the same premiums as those that don’t? How long would a home insurance provider remain viable if it allowed its clients to insure their currently half burned down home to cover the repair costs?

If you want to continue ignoring reality, go ahead, blame those greedy insurance companies. If one has an interest in accepting reality, it would explain why the EXPANSION of insurance coverage has resulted in more EXPENSIVE insurance coverage.

At the expense of being curt and dispassionate, i believe it’s worth noting that those who DO have a pre-existing condition such as cancer, aren’t killed by the insurance company’s or the doctor’s refusal to pay for treatment, they’re killed by the cancer. AND... Something you will NEVER here from anyone in medical community or in political sphere which cannot be ignored. Despite the VERY BEST the medical industry has to offer, at the end of the day they’re only delaying the inevitable.

Single payer solves your above insurance dilemma, and cuts out all of the current insurance industry profits in the process, but you already knew that, right?

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Re: Republican position on healthcare.

Post by 1989TransAm » Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:31 pm

j-c-c wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:33 pm
86_regal wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:54 am
Allow me to be the asshole and talk about the elephant in the room...

Is an Insurance company providing insurance if they’re required to cover pre-existing conditions for the same premiums as those that don’t? How long would a home insurance provider remain viable if it allowed its clients to insure their currently half burned down home to cover the repair costs?

If you want to continue ignoring reality, go ahead, blame those greedy insurance companies. If one has an interest in accepting reality, it would explain why the EXPANSION of insurance coverage has resulted in more EXPENSIVE insurance coverage.

At the expense of being curt and dispassionate, i believe it’s worth noting that those who DO have a pre-existing condition such as cancer, aren’t killed by the insurance company’s or the doctor’s refusal to pay for treatment, they’re killed by the cancer. AND... Something you will NEVER here from anyone in medical community or in political sphere which cannot be ignored. Despite the VERY BEST the medical industry has to offer, at the end of the day they’re only delaying the inevitable.

Single payer solves your above insurance dilemma, and cuts out all of the current insurance industry profits in the process, but you already knew that, right?
Coming from the man who loves socialism. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Single payer, one size fits all. [-X

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