Pelosi on the 'collateral damage' of Dems' economic policies: 'So be it'

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Pelosi on the 'collateral damage' of Dems' economic policies: 'So be it'

Post by 1989TransAm » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:08 pm

President Trump wants prosperity for all. Pelosi and the dimoKKKATS only want it for some. The others are just collateral damage. [-X

"House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said American voters will simply have to deal with the “collateral damage” that comes their way if Democrats craft economic policies in the years ahead.
~snip~
“We owe the American people to be there for them, for their financial security, respecting the dignity and worth of every person in our country, and if there is some collateral damage for some others who do not share our view, well, so be it, but it shouldn’t be our original purpose,” she said Sunday."

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Re: Pelosi on the 'collateral damage' of Dems' economic policies: 'So be it'

Post by SupStk » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:21 pm

Isn't that the way socialism works? Wealthy and powerful upper class and trickle down poverty for all others.
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Re: Pelosi on the 'collateral damage' of Dems' economic policies: 'So be it'

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1989TransAm wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:08 pm
President Trump wants prosperity for all. Pelosi and the dimoKKKATS only want it for some. The others are just collateral damage. [-X

"House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said American voters will simply have to deal with the “collateral damage” that comes their way if Democrats craft economic policies in the years ahead.
~snip~
“We owe the American people to be there for them, for their financial security, respecting the dignity and worth of every person in our country, and if there is some collateral damage for some others who do not share our view, well, so be it, but it shouldn’t be our original purpose,” she said Sunday."

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... dems-econ/
I guess the term "winners and losers" is passe?

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Re: Pelosi on the 'collateral damage' of Dems' economic policies: 'So be it'

Post by 1989TransAm » Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:42 pm

j-c-c wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:52 pm
1989TransAm wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:08 pm
President Trump wants prosperity for all. Pelosi and the dimoKKKATS only want it for some. The others are just collateral damage. [-X

"House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said American voters will simply have to deal with the “collateral damage” that comes their way if Democrats craft economic policies in the years ahead.
~snip~
“We owe the American people to be there for them, for their financial security, respecting the dignity and worth of every person in our country, and if there is some collateral damage for some others who do not share our view, well, so be it, but it shouldn’t be our original purpose,” she said Sunday."

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... dems-econ/
I guess the term "winners and losers" is passe?
Obviously this article is too hard for you to grasp.

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Re: Pelosi on the 'collateral damage' of Dems' economic policies: 'So be it'

Post by j-c-c » Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:54 pm

1989TransAm wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:42 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:52 pm
1989TransAm wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:08 pm
President Trump wants prosperity for all. Pelosi and the dimoKKKATS only want it for some. The others are just collateral damage. [-X

"House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said American voters will simply have to deal with the “collateral damage” that comes their way if Democrats craft economic policies in the years ahead.
~snip~
“We owe the American people to be there for them, for their financial security, respecting the dignity and worth of every person in our country, and if there is some collateral damage for some others who do not share our view, well, so be it, but it shouldn’t be our original purpose,” she said Sunday."

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... dems-econ/
I guess the term "winners and losers" is passe?
Obviously this article is too hard for you to grasp.
Yes, painfully obvious, in the fact that in a free enterprise capitalistic system winners and losers are a given end result, and the euphemism of "collateral damage" describing the latter is not PC enough for the OP. #-o

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Re: Pelosi on the 'collateral damage' of Dems' economic policies: 'So be it'

Post by Ken0069 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:05 pm

Winston Churchill wrote:Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
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Re: Pelosi on the 'collateral damage' of Dems' economic policies: 'So be it'

Post by 86_regal » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:21 pm

j-c-c wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:54 pm
1989TransAm wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:42 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:52 pm


I guess the term "winners and losers" is passe?
Obviously this article is too hard for you to grasp.
Yes, painfully obvious, in the fact that in a free enterprise capitalistic system winners and losers are a given end result, and the euphemism of "collateral damage" describing the latter is not PC enough for the OP. #-o
The Left's most often peddled and completely WRONG Logical Fallacy...

Capitalism, the VOLUNTARY exchange of privately owned resources is NOT a "zero sum game". The average "middle class" American of 1980 could not have dreamed to achieve the living standards of the average "poor" American of today. The living standards of the "poor" in this country is higher than 80% of those across the globe. Make no mistake, that has nothing to do with government taxation and redistribution. Governments don't create wealth, they take it and give it to someone else.

Moreover, the major flaw (or deliberate mischaracterization) in the "wealth gap" is quantifying that "gap" or living standard from the TOP rather than from THE absolute scale of ZERO and willful ignorance of the responsibility of the INDIVIDUAL.

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Re: Pelosi on the 'collateral damage' of Dems' economic policies: 'So be it'

Post by sanfordandson » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:36 pm

Collateral damage is a term often used when referring to trump economic policies oddly enough.... :-"

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Re: Pelosi on the 'collateral damage' of Dems' economic policies: 'So be it'

Post by exhaustgases » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:20 pm

1989TransAm wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:08 pm
President Trump wants prosperity for all. Pelosi and the dimoKKKATS only want it for some. The others are just collateral damage. [-X

"House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said American voters will simply have to deal with the “collateral damage” that comes their way if Democrats craft economic policies in the years ahead.
~snip~
“We owe the American people to be there for them, for their financial security, respecting the dignity and worth of every person in our country, and if there is some collateral damage for some others who do not share our view, well, so be it, but it shouldn’t be our original purpose,” she said Sunday."

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... dems-econ/
I hope all little millennial commies can read this and understand. And there are plenty more collateral damages to come from satan's favorite party.
And if your not in the millionaire game player range you will not like their plans for you/us.

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Re: Pelosi on the 'collateral damage' of Dems' economic policies: 'So be it'

Post by 86_regal » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:27 pm

sanfordandson wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:36 pm
Collateral damage is a term often used when referring to trump economic policies oddly enough.... :-"
In the context of Trump's imposition of higher tariffs putting more economic strain on those in the lowest economic strata certainly is collateral damage..

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Re: Pelosi on the 'collateral damage' of Dems' economic policies: 'So be it'

Post by 86_regal » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:32 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:20 pm
1989TransAm wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:08 pm
President Trump wants prosperity for all. Pelosi and the dimoKKKATS only want it for some. The others are just collateral damage. [-X

"House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said American voters will simply have to deal with the “collateral damage” that comes their way if Democrats craft economic policies in the years ahead.
~snip~
“We owe the American people to be there for them, for their financial security, respecting the dignity and worth of every person in our country, and if there is some collateral damage for some others who do not share our view, well, so be it, but it shouldn’t be our original purpose,” she said Sunday."

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... dems-econ/
I hope all little millennial commies can read this and understand. And there are plenty more collateral damages to come from satan's favorite party.
And if your not in the millionaire game player range you will not like their plans for you/us.
Some might argue that handing out tax cuts and not reducing government spending "may" "make us all prosperous" NOW, at a greater expense to us LATER.

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Re: Pelosi on the 'collateral damage' of Dems' economic policies: 'So be it'

Post by exhaustgases » Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:12 am

86_regal wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:32 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:20 pm
1989TransAm wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:08 pm
President Trump wants prosperity for all. Pelosi and the dimoKKKATS only want it for some. The others are just collateral damage. [-X

"House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said American voters will simply have to deal with the “collateral damage” that comes their way if Democrats craft economic policies in the years ahead.
~snip~
“We owe the American people to be there for them, for their financial security, respecting the dignity and worth of every person in our country, and if there is some collateral damage for some others who do not share our view, well, so be it, but it shouldn’t be our original purpose,” she said Sunday."

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... dems-econ/
I hope all little millennial commies can read this and understand. And there are plenty more collateral damages to come from satan's favorite party.
And if your not in the millionaire game player range you will not like their plans for you/us.
Some might argue that handing out tax cuts and not reducing government spending "may" "make us all prosperous" NOW, at a greater expense to us LATER.
What is important is what they want to take from us. And what they have taken from us already. That is what is important. The demonrats are the take something from us party. Just sign the imagine song by lennon.

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Re: Pelosi on the 'collateral damage' of Dems' economic policies: 'So be it'

Post by 86_regal » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:44 am

exhaustgases wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:12 am
86_regal wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:32 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:20 pm


I hope all little millennial commies can read this and understand. And there are plenty more collateral damages to come from satan's favorite party.
And if your not in the millionaire game player range you will not like their plans for you/us.
Some might argue that handing out tax cuts and not reducing government spending "may" "make us all prosperous" NOW, at a greater expense to us LATER.
What is important is what they want to take from us. And what they have taken from us already. That is what is important. The demonrats are the take something from us party. Just sign the imagine song by lennon.
Well, I hope you'd concede at least, that "Democrats" are attempting to be financially prudent by funding the services provided with tax dollars, not debt. Seems a bit disingenuous and irresponsible of republicans to cut taxes, NOT cut spending/government services and finance it with freshly printed money which invariably weakens EVERY other dollar in OUR pockets imposing what is typically referred to as an inflation tax.

Seems to me Republicans justify dishonesty for political capital...

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Re: Pelosi on the 'collateral damage' of Dems' economic policies: 'So be it'

Post by j-c-c » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:59 am

86_regal wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:21 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:54 pm
1989TransAm wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:42 pm


Obviously this article is too hard for you to grasp.
Yes, painfully obvious, in the fact that in a free enterprise capitalistic system winners and losers are a given end result, and the euphemism of "collateral damage" describing the latter is not PC enough for the OP. #-o
The Left's most often peddled and completely WRONG Logical Fallacy...

Capitalism, the VOLUNTARY exchange of privately owned resources is NOT a "zero sum game". The average "middle class" American of 1980 could not have dreamed to achieve the living standards of the average "poor" American of today. The living standards of the "poor" in this country is higher than 80% of those across the globe. Make no mistake, that has nothing to do with government taxation and redistribution. Governments don't create wealth, they take it and give it to someone else.

Moreover, the major flaw (or deliberate mischaracterization) in the "wealth gap" is quantifying that "gap" or living standard from the TOP rather than from THE absolute scale of ZERO and willful ignorance of the responsibility of the INDIVIDUAL.
BS, like saying one should be gratified finishing the marathon last with an under 6 hr time, while the "winner" did it in 12 minutes in a Ferrari, that zero, because they can't individually afford a Ferrari? [-X

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Re: Pelosi on the 'collateral damage' of Dems' economic policies: 'So be it'

Post by 86_regal » Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:47 am

j-c-c wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:59 am
86_regal wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:21 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:54 pm


Yes, painfully obvious, in the fact that in a free enterprise capitalistic system winners and losers are a given end result, and the euphemism of "collateral damage" describing the latter is not PC enough for the OP. #-o
The Left's most often peddled and completely WRONG Logical Fallacy...

Capitalism, the VOLUNTARY exchange of privately owned resources is NOT a "zero sum game". The average "middle class" American of 1980 could not have dreamed to achieve the living standards of the average "poor" American of today. The living standards of the "poor" in this country is higher than 80% of those across the globe. Make no mistake, that has nothing to do with government taxation and redistribution. Governments don't create wealth, they take it and give it to someone else.

Moreover, the major flaw (or deliberate mischaracterization) in the "wealth gap" is quantifying that "gap" or living standard from the TOP rather than from THE absolute scale of ZERO and willful ignorance of the responsibility of the INDIVIDUAL.
BS, like saying one should be gratified finishing the marathon last with an under 6 hr time, while the "winner" did it in 12 minutes in a Ferrari, that zero, because they can't individually afford a Ferrari? [-X
Before I respond, I feel it's important to point out that I give to charity and I am heavily involved in community functions teaching children the importance of education through study groups, tutoring, personal responsibility and responsibility to our community. I bring this up only to illustrate that I do have an interest in the success of those of my community.

Unfortunatley, your analogy comes up a little short because of, again, either flaws or thoughtless or deliberate mischaracterizations of the wealth gap or wealth inequality.

What if the person that "finished last" had an IQ of 90? Or was born into a family of modest means? In a poverty stricken neighborhood? Is it the fault or blame of the guy driving the Ferrari to the finish line first, and everyone in the "race" who were able to purchase a vehicle to get to the finish line sooner? Are any of these people OBLIGATED to "give him a ride"? How about another of those people in the "race" that simply chose not to take the risk to create his own business, or acquire a skill in high demand or even save his money by not spending it frivolous products and otherwise invest their money, that could have enabled HIM to buy a faster car, like a Ferrari? Or let's say the guy who owns the Ferrari was born to a very wealthy family, is that his fault? Is he OBLIGATED to give rides to those with slower cars? Is HE entitled to a ride by those who own Bugattis or McLarens?

Certainly one could justifiably conclude life isn't fair, at least in terms of the wealth your born into, your intelligence, height, attractiveness and the hundreds of other metrics that all have an influence on ones economic success? How does one correct for that WITHOUT imposing MORE "unfairness" or injustice or FORCE?

Some might argue the guy finishing last (for arguments sake, because he had to walk) has an "unfair" advantage over many across the globe. Thanks to the guys who crossed the finish line in Ferraris and Bugattis, he was likely wearing socks and shoes, was well nourished, well rested for having slept in a comfortable bed with warm blankets in a home that was temperature controlled, and given a ride by the local bus station to get to the race. A majority of people across the globe could only dream of such a lifestyle...

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