Iran's president says he'll talk to Trump "right now"

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Re: Iran's president says he'll talk to Trump "right now"

Post by j-c-c » Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:36 pm

lefty o wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:47 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:26 pm
lefty o wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:11 am


too bad its not any good at it. insanity is repeating the same thing over and over, and expecting different results!
The things people write on here, thinking they are the first, does indeed remind me of the Einstein quote ,that has been repeated what, a million times? :lol:
yet , daily your repeat yourself over and over again, in both your words, and your actions.
So your memory is indeed wqrking, and still expecting a different result. Hmm............

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Re: Iran's president says he'll talk to Trump "right now"

Post by lefty o » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:51 pm

oh no, ouch! you have to do better than that. :lol:

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Re: Iran's president says he'll talk to Trump "right now"

Post by j-c-c » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:58 pm

lefty o wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:51 pm
oh no, ouch! you have to do better than that. :lol:
No need that I can see.

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Re: Iran's president says he'll talk to Trump "right now"

Post by Ratu » Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:36 am

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You asked, "What's j-c-c saying that is beginning to piss you off?"

He is dishonest. He knows he is being dishonest. In his case it isn't just ignorance you are dealing with. It is a step beyond that. It is wilful dishonesty. That takes an effort of malfeasance. It comes from a guilty mind. Rather than think and amend deviant behaviour he prefers to double down. That is his wilful dishonesty on display and it is best treated with contempt.

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Re: Iran's president says he'll talk to Trump "right now"

Post by Ratu » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:49 am

RevTheory

Quoting, "Never once have I heard our "media" try to say that our people are against theirs or vice-versa. President Trump has said plenty of times that the United States stands with the Iranian people against their oppressive regime."

That is very nice, but there are a few matters to consider.

It is likely correct that never has the US media said that the people of the USA are against the people of Iran (or Iraq or Afghanistan, for that matter) or vice-versa. So what? There's a well known analogy to this of a mafia hitman telling his intended victim, "It's not personal, it's just business", shortly before murder. Words (or the lack of same) are very well, but actions matter.

A question to ponder. Just how exactly is it in the interests of Iranian people to be bombed by the military of the US government? How exactly does it benefit the Iranian people to have their supply of clean potable water, electricity, their sewerage processing facilities, their bridges, pre-schools, universities, secondary schools, primary schools, hospitals etc etc etc bombed to utter destruction by the military of the US govt? 'Cause THAT is what their great concern has got to be. THAT was what the military belongong to the US govt did to the people who live in Iraq. The excuse for that war crime were non-existant weapons of mass destruction. THAT is the example they have seen first hand. It was a terrible war crime.

The people of Iran live right beside Iraq and they surely as can be know exactly what happened in Iraq. They have access to physical evidence and living witnesses. They do not have to rely on the MSM to know exactly what the people in Iraq experienced at the hands of the US govt and its military and its mercenaries. They know.

They know about how hundreds of thousands of infants and children in Iraq suffered from preventable and fully treatable diseases because the potable water facilities were bombed and the sewerage treatment plants were bombed. They know about how hundreds of thousands of infants and children in Iraq died from preventable and fully treatable diseases because the sanctions placed by the US govt and enforced by its military meant that common anti-biotics and medicines were prohibited from being imported into Iraq. They know about how when US officials were challenged on this action, right up to the Secretary of State (who went on the record as saying in regards to casuing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children, "we think it was worth it"), the response was a soulless indifference. The Iranians know about this war crime.

So just how precisely does the President of the USA and its government, all its agencies and military "stand with the Iranian people"? The hope of the Iranian people has to be that the "standing with the Iranian people" isn't the same as was the "standing with the Iraqi people", infants and children and all. Trouble is that would appear to be a vain hope as there are and have been sanctions applied against the people of Iran already, just as occurred to the people of Iraq, and for, guess what, non-existant weapons of mass destruction and more lately for terrorism (pot, kettle and all that!). Deja vu all over again...!

Sanctions are an act of war. War crimes are the actions of criminals. Initiating a war is the ultimate war crime, as stated at the Nuremberg Trials, since it is the embodiment of all the crimes within war, it subsumes all of them. It is the most serious of war crimes.

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