Judge jails ex-Trump campaign chair Manafort ahead of trial

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Judge jails ex-Trump campaign chair Manafort ahead of trial

Post by sanfordandson » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:58 pm

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President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort is going to jail.

On Friday, Manafort was ordered into custody after a federal judge revoked his house arrest, citing newly filed obstruction of justice charges. The move by U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson made Manafort the first Trump campaign official to be jailed as part of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation.

Already under intense pressure to cooperate with prosecutors in hopes of securing leniency, Manafort now loses the relative freedom he enjoyed while he prepared for two criminal trials in which he faces the possibility of spending the rest of his life in prison.

In issuing her ruling, Jackson said she had "struggled" with the decision but she couldn't "turn a blind eye" to his conduct.

"You have abused the trust placed in you six months ago," she said.

A federal grand jury indicted Manafort and a longtime associate, Konstantin Kilimnik, last week on charges of obstruction of justice and conspiracy to obstruct justice, adding to the multiple felony counts he already faced. The charges do not relate to his work on the Trump campaign or involve allegations of Russian election interference.

Manafort, 69, and Kilimnik are accused of attempting to tamper with witnesses in the case by trying to get them to lie about the nature of their Ukrainian political work. Prosecutors say Manafort and Kilimnik tried to get the two witnesses to say that lobbying work carried out by clandestinely paid former politicians only occurred in Europe and not the U.S., a contention the two witnesses said they knew to be false.

The distinction matters because unregistered foreign lobbying in the U.S. is a crime, while lobbying solely in Europe would be outside the special counsel's jurisdiction.

Manafort's attorneys have accused prosecutors of conjuring a "sinister plot" out of "innocuous" contacts. They filed a memo written by one of the witnesses for Manafort that his attorneys say shows the work of the group, known as the Hapsburg group, was European focused.

In response, prosecutors filed additional documents showing extensive lobbying contacts by the group in the U.S., which they said showed "the falsity of his representation." One of the documents was a 2013 memo from Manafort to former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych. It described how Manafort had designed a program that used the Hapsburg members to lobby U.S. lawmakers and influence American public opinion including meetings on Capitol Hill.

Manafort also pleaded not guilty to the latest indictment on Friday. Kilimnik, who prosecutors say is living in Russia, did not appear in court. Mueller's team has said that Kilimnik has ties to Russian intelligence agencies, a claim he has previously denied.

Manafort will remain in jail while he awaits trial in both Washington and Virginia over the next few months. He faces several felony charges — including tax evasion, bank fraud, money-laundering conspiracy and acting as an unregistered foreign agent — related to his Ukrainian political work, money he funneled through offshore accounts and loans he took out on property in the U.S.

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Re: Judge jails ex-Trump campaign chair Manafort ahead of trial

Post by exhaustgases » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:44 pm

NIce ! And then the real criminals are all free, that sounds like the US justice system. Always go after the least of the bad ones and make sure the real evil is out on the streets. That's Marxism to the max. The swamp is in full swamp mode. Its time to send the marines in to clean it all up.

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Re: Judge jails ex-Trump campaign chair Manafort ahead of trial

Post by sanfordandson » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:58 pm

drain the trump swamp! \:D/

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Re: Judge jails ex-Trump campaign chair Manafort ahead of trial

Post by 1989TransAm » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:37 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:44 pm
NIce ! And then the real criminals are all free, that sounds like the US justice system. Always go after the least of the bad ones and make sure the real evil is out on the streets. That's Marxism to the max. The swamp is in full swamp mode. Its time to send the marines in to clean it all up.
Exactly. Look at the two big investigations as an example of who things were handled. We are talking about the so called Russian collusion story and the Clinton email scandal. Reading the IG report it shows that the Hillary investigation got handled with kid gloves on with "witnesses" watching the Hillary investigation. Now compare that to how the Trump/Russia investigation is being handled. Why is Strzok still with the FBI???

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Re: Judge jails ex-Trump campaign chair Manafort ahead of trial

Post by exhaustgases » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:47 pm

There is one AG that could clean things, that is Pirro.

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Re: Judge jails ex-Trump campaign chair Manafort ahead of trial

Post by mk e » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:51 pm

This was the expected outcome.....jail may make him think long and hard about his not guilty plea.
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Post by j-c-c » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:56 pm

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Re: Judge jails ex-Trump campaign chair Manafort ahead of trial

Post by exhaustgases » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:08 pm

So ya all like the fbi corruption the real problem then and don't want nothing to happen to the communist demoncrats in those agencies?

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Re: Judge jails ex-Trump campaign chair Manafort ahead of trial

Post by Firedome8 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:10 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:47 pm
There is one AG that could clean things, that is Pirro.
She is a fox news nutter.

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Re: Judge jails ex-Trump campaign chair Manafort ahead of trial

Post by j-c-c » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:19 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:08 pm
So ya all like the fbi corruption the real problem then and don't want nothing to happen to the communist demoncrats in those agencies?
Hard concept. NOBODY is above the law. Got it?

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Re: Judge jails ex-Trump campaign chair Manafort ahead of trial

Post by In-Tech » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:34 pm

Question for anyone in this thread. Have any had federal charges brought upon you? What did you do in response?
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Re: Judge jails ex-Trump campaign chair Manafort ahead of trial

Post by 1989TransAm » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:11 pm

The judge never issued a no contact order. IMHO she is trying to cover her @ss.

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Re: Judge jails ex-Trump campaign chair Manafort ahead of trial

Post by mk e » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:31 am

1989TransAm wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:11 pm
The judge never issued a no contact order. IMHO she is trying to cover her @ss.
Why would she? He's free to speak to anyone he please....but like all speach those conversations are not free from repercussions. Sending a birthday card to an old friend is no problem, asking them to lie to prosecutors is witness tampering.
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Re: Judge jails ex-Trump campaign chair Manafort ahead of trial

Post by j-c-c » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:30 am

mk e wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:31 am
1989TransAm wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:11 pm
The judge never issued a no contact order. IMHO she is trying to cover her @ss.
Why would she? He's free to speak to anyone he please....but like all speach those conversations are not free from repercussions. Sending a birthday card to an old friend is no problem, asking them to lie to prosecutors is witness tampering.
The MO as I understand it, Manaford was communicating surreptitiously with witnesses about his charges by being part of a email site others also accessed, and the trick they used was to draft, and never send emails, but each could read the others drafts. , hoping to not leave a trail I suspect.

That is the trade craft of deception in this context.

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Re: Judge jails ex-Trump campaign chair Manafort ahead of trial

Post by RevTheory » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:32 am

1989TransAm wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:11 pm
The judge never issued a no contact order. IMHO she is trying to cover her @ss.
Yep! The case is about as flimsy as could be and apparently she's just pissy because Manafort is fighting her and won't roll over on Trump. Well how can a person roll over on something that simply doesn't exist?

The fact that all Mueller has is a 12 year-old, mothballed case that's completely unrelated to Donald Trump speaks volumes.

Edit: I can't say I'd be shocked if Manafort pulled an underhanded move but it still has jackshit to do with Donald Trump and should never have been part of Mueller's purview. Then again, after seeing the IG report, I'm surprised they haven't tried to bankrupt Donald Trump's third-grade teacher yet.

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