The ‘Russian Collusion’ Trial Is On, And Mueller May Be The First Casualty

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The ‘Russian Collusion’ Trial Is On, And Mueller May Be The First Casualty

Post by 1989TransAm » Thu May 10, 2018 10:38 am

I don't think Mueller ever thought these companies would appear in court. Now we will see what evidence Mueller has.

"Mueller generated headlines with the February indictment, safe in the knowledge the 13 Russians were beyond U.S. jurisdiction. Therefore, there would be no trial — only sensational Russian collusion accusations.
Mueller may now have to try the case, and Concord’s lawyers have put the special counsel on notice. The Russian company’s lawyers intend to invoke “discovery” to obtain U.S. intelligence about what they knew of Russian activities. “I guess Mueller thought it was a freebie, for sure,” former federal prosecutor Andrew C. McCarthy told The Daily Caller News Foundation after the court proceeding.

“He thought it could make this association (of Russian collusion) and it would never be challenged in court,” McCarthy, a National Review contributing editor, said after the proceeding.
“He thought it could make this association (of Russian collusion) and it would never be challenged in court,” McCarthy, a National Review contributing editor, said after the proceeding. Concord retained the services of two attorneys at mega law firm Reed Smith, and the company is demanding a speedy trial. The lawyers indicated they were going to exercise Concord’s rights under discovery to examine all of Mueller’s “evidence” of the conspiracy.

In starting Wednesday’s trial, Eric A. Dubelier, a Reed Smith law partner, entered a “not guilty” plea in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. He also repeated his client’s interest for a “speedy trial.”
McCarthy called Mueller’s entire indictment an “unforced error.”
“One thing you never want to do is to indict in a case that you’re not prepared to try,” McCarthy said.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/09/russi ... -casualty/

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Re: The ‘Russian Collusion’ Trial Is On, And Mueller May Be The First Casualty

Post by mk e » Thu May 10, 2018 11:41 am

Don't worry, the trial will go fine no matter what the defence lawyer says.

The purpose of this is by the Russians is to get disclosure, which will help them and Rump cleanup as well as be better prepared for actions in coming elections.
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Re: The ‘Russian Collusion’ Trial Is On, And Mueller May Be The First Casualty

Post by exhaustgases » Thu May 10, 2018 7:28 pm

Wiki leaks could set it all straight. I wonder what they have on muleher.

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Re: The ‘Russian Collusion’ Trial Is On, And Mueller May Be The First Casualty

Post by SupStk » Fri May 11, 2018 1:03 am

So if it goes to trial, are taxpayers on the hook for Mulehead's legal defense?
It isn't like he hasn't stepped over boundaries and wasted time, energy and money already
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Re: The ‘Russian Collusion’ Trial Is On, And Mueller May Be The First Casualty

Post by Ratu » Sat May 12, 2018 2:40 pm

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You write, "The purpose of this is by the Russians is to get disclosure, which will help them and Rump cleanup as well as be better prepared for actions in coming election."

Of course the defendants seek disclosure. The defendant has every right to face his accuser in court. That includes the right to demand the prosecution produce evidence of what the defendant is being accused of. It also includes the right to challenge it and defend against it.

Surely the US hasn't descended into the abyss of totalitarian secret courts with secret trials and secret evidence and secret verdicts yet, has it?

Now if the evidence that President Trump was a Russian spy or colluded with Russian interests to "steal the elections", then the revelation of any such evidence is of crucial importance. If there is evidence that Russian outfits "stole the election" for President Trump, now is the time to produce it. It is put up time. Let the public see it. Besides, there is no way to "cleanup" the evidence (if indeed such exists at all). Once it is produced in court, it is revealed for all to see. It can't be "disappeared." If it indicates spying or collusion, then that is what has happened and that could not be washed away from the public since they would already be able to see it. Thus the court would have done as it should (which is to establish the truth and act to seek justice in the public eye).

Of course, things are slightly different if the evidence produced demonstrates a political witch-hunt has been afoot this whole time. It gets very serious, very fast indeed should the evidence demonstrate an illegal attempt to overturn the results of a legitimate election of a President by the people of the United States. THAT would be an attempted coup d'etat by elements of government and certain allied powerful interests and THAT would be treason and THAT is illegal in the USA last I checked.

It is well past time to have the real evidence of what has been going on revealed. Let's have the people see it, let the court examine it and let the chips fall as they may.

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Re: The ‘Russian Collusion’ Trial Is On, And Mueller May Be The First Casualty

Post by exhaustgases » Sat May 12, 2018 3:27 pm

And there is a reason all the swamp rats don't want any of their dirty laundry paper work seen by the ones requesting it. Its collusion alright but not by trump, all by the bunch that has brain washed all the demo c rats on here and everywhere. I just wish the digging would go much deeper into all the other dirty lies that have be perpetrated on the US populace to be used to affect change, like the gun issue for one.

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Post by SupStk » Sat May 12, 2018 4:44 pm

Great post Ratu
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Re: The ‘Russian Collusion’ Trial Is On, And Mueller May Be The First Casualty

Post by Firedome8 » Sat May 12, 2018 5:10 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 3:27 pm
And there is a reason all the swamp rats don't want any of their dirty laundry paper work seen by the ones requesting it. Its collusion alright but not by trump, all by the bunch that has brain washed all the demo c rats on here and everywhere. I just wish the digging would go much deeper into all the other dirty lies that have be perpetrated on the US populace to be used to affect change, like the gun issue for one.
Like "we will be greated as liberators" or "we need to give the bankers a trillion dollars" are those big enough lies for ya ????

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Re: The ‘Russian Collusion’ Trial Is On, And Mueller May Be The First Casualty

Post by exhaustgases » Sat May 12, 2018 5:24 pm

Firedome8 wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 5:10 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 3:27 pm
And there is a reason all the swamp rats don't want any of their dirty laundry paper work seen by the ones requesting it. Its collusion alright but not by trump, all by the bunch that has brain washed all the demo c rats on here and everywhere. I just wish the digging would go much deeper into all the other dirty lies that have be perpetrated on the US populace to be used to affect change, like the gun issue for one.
Like "we will be greated as liberators" or "we need to give the bankers a trillion dollars" are those big enough lies for ya ????
You bet the bankers, and the demo c rats are right there with them, who got rid of the homesteading act? Yeah demo rats, why to increase the wage slave population so they could pay the bankers for land and a place to live. You almost got it figured.

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Re: The ‘Russian Collusion’ Trial Is On, And Mueller May Be The First Casualty

Post by j-c-c » Sat May 12, 2018 6:25 pm

All I am reading is headline grabbing one sided deflection and conjecture from the defense, what next, "if the glove doesn't fit.........."
Only reason to rush this process is to force/invite a legal mistake, and justice will not be served with that outcome, for anybody.
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Re: The ‘Russian Collusion’ Trial Is On, And Mueller May Be The First Casualty

Post by 1989TransAm » Sat May 12, 2018 7:08 pm

Discovery. Hey Mueller, put up or shut up.

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Re: The ‘Russian Collusion’ Trial Is On, And Mueller May Be The First Casualty

Post by Ratu » Sun May 13, 2018 1:48 pm

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Re "Put up or shut up."

It has escalated to even more than that now. It is put up or face disgrace, dismissal, investigation, litigation and possibly trial. This one is very dangerous.

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Re: The ‘Russian Collusion’ Trial Is On, And Mueller May Be The First Casualty

Post by RevTheory » Sun May 13, 2018 3:21 pm

Ratu wrote:
Sun May 13, 2018 1:48 pm
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Re "Put up or shut up."

It has escalated to even more than that now. It is put up or face disgrace, dismissal, investigation, litigation and possibly trial. This one is very dangerous.
That's why Mueller et.al. are out for something, anything they can find regardless of how far out in left field they have to go to get it. They'd be happy with a perjury trap at this point as they can't find a single crime that Donald Trump or his campaign committed during the campaign.

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Re: The ‘Russian Collusion’ Trial Is On, And Mueller May Be The First Casualty

Post by 1989TransAm » Sun May 13, 2018 9:09 pm

RevTheory wrote:
Sun May 13, 2018 3:21 pm
Ratu wrote:
Sun May 13, 2018 1:48 pm
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Re "Put up or shut up."

It has escalated to even more than that now. It is put up or face disgrace, dismissal, investigation, litigation and possibly trial. This one is very dangerous.
That's why Mueller et.al. are out for something, anything they can find regardless of how far out in left field they have to go to get it. They'd be happy with a perjury trap at this point as they can't find a single crime that Donald Trump or his campaign committed during the campaign.
Even with a "mole" in the Trump campaign they have come up with nothing. Repeat, nothing.

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Re: The ‘Russian Collusion’ Trial Is On, And Mueller May Be The First Casualty

Post by j-c-c » Sun May 13, 2018 9:11 pm

"Justice discards party, friendship, kindred, and is always, therefore, represented as blind."

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