Bombs away in Syria

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Re: Bombs away in Syria

Post by j-c-c » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:45 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:12 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:04 pm
So I am usually suspicous of one's morality when they weigh the cost of doing the right thing vs the financial cost, like most do when not confronting their boss over sexual harassment. So now we have sunk to justifying a war crime gas attack reprisal to the cost missiles per building destroyed.

This country sure seeks a strange new high road. [-X
I guess you were there and are a witness to the fact? And it wasn't just a ploy? Like a rock tossed into the pack of sniffing dogs to start a fight.
It appears you completely missed my point, review again and get back to me.

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Re: Bombs away in Syria

Post by exhaustgases » Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:01 pm

j-c-c wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:45 pm
. So now we have sunk to justifying a war crime gas attack reprisal to the cost missiles per building destroyed.


It appears you completely missed my point, review again and get back to me.
I think I got it right. And my question again is where you there? Did you see an attack? Or do we just keep believing what we are told? No questions allowed?

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Re: Bombs away in Syria

Post by Firedome8 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:47 pm

Ratu wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:58 pm
j-c-c

Question for you. Do you believe that the US and UK attack on Syria was the right thing to do? In other words, was it moral?
Depends on the real story. Was it moral is another question. Trump and a lot of his following clame to be Christ like so wouldn't you think they know the moral thing to do ?

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Re: Bombs away in Syria

Post by Ratu » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:53 am

j-c-c

So that'd be a yes. You believe it was right and moral to attack Syrians with cruise missiles, as has just been done.

Before we discuss this topic further read this:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04- ... to+zero%29

Make certain to play the embedded film clips.

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Re: Bombs away in Syria

Post by RevTheory » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:11 am

As long as we stay out of it; no occupation, no regime change, no nation-building and let them hash it out, I'm probably good with it. Syria butting up to Israel and Iran having a foothold adds some complexity being that they've stated time and again that they want to remove Jews from the face of the earth. We certainly can't allow Iran the chance to lob chemical weapons over the wall.

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Re: Bombs away in Syria

Post by j-c-c » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:34 am

exhaustgases wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:01 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:45 pm
. So now we have sunk to justifying a war crime gas attack reprisal to the cost missiles per building destroyed.


It appears you completely missed my point, review again and get back to me.
I think I got it right. And my question again is where you there? Did you see an attack? Or do we just keep believing what we are told? No questions allowed?
If you got it right, how many people do you know that you can confirm saw an "attack"?
They surely aren't on Speed talk. If that is your requirement for a discussion (we are not in a courtroom for a trial rendering a verdict), you are going to be with a very small audience.
You jnow trust is a requirement for most civil societies, it has to been earned, and can also be withdrawn, its a constant endeavor, get used to it.
Blind faith is for the lazy, but boldly accusing everyone without reasonable proof of suspicion, can also be very corrosive. Lets stick to debating what is reasonable.

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Re: Bombs away in Syria

Post by j-c-c » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:43 am

Ratu wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:53 am
j-c-c

So that'd be a yes. You believe it was right and moral to attack Syrians with cruise missiles, as has just been done.

Before we discuss this topic further read this:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04- ... to+zero%29

Make certain to play the embedded film clips.
Shorten the logical maze you are presenting, make your point, its a false flag? To whose gain?

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Re: Bombs away in Syria

Post by exhaustgases » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:33 pm

j-c-c wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:43 am
Ratu wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:53 am
j-c-c

So that'd be a yes. You believe it was right and moral to attack Syrians with cruise missiles, as has just been done.

Before we discuss this topic further read this:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04- ... to+zero%29

Make certain to play the embedded film clips.
Shorten the logical maze you are presenting, make your point, its a false flag? To whose gain?
Whose to gain?, the globalists of course. The same that own the Marxist socialist communist demo c rat party, that they are using to undermine the US with. All modern wars are based on lies and deception, name one that wasn't.

Witnesses to attacks? This day and age its so easy to falsify things like that all it takes is $.

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Re: Bombs away in Syria

Post by j-c-c » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:40 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:33 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:43 am
Ratu wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:53 am
j-c-c

So that'd be a yes. You believe it was right and moral to attack Syrians with cruise missiles, as has just been done.

Before we discuss this topic further read this:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04- ... to+zero%29

Make certain to play the embedded film clips.
Shorten the logical maze you are presenting, make your point, its a false flag? To whose gain?
Whose to gain?, the globalists of course. The same that own the Marxist socialist communist demo c rat party, that they are using to undermine the US with. All modern wars are based on lies and deception, name one that wasn't.

Witnesses to attacks? This day and age its so easy to falsify things like that all it takes is $.
Note, "of course" is not without any supporting reasoning, worth more then an opinion.

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Re: Bombs away in Syria

Post by exhaustgases » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:02 pm

j-c-c wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:40 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:33 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:43 am


Shorten the logical maze you are presenting, make your point, its a false flag? To whose gain?
Whose to gain?, the globalists of course. The same that own the Marxist socialist communist demo c rat party, that they are using to undermine the US with. All modern wars are based on lies and deception, name one that wasn't.

Witnesses to attacks? This day and age its so easy to falsify things like that all it takes is $.
Note, "of course" is not without any supporting reasoning, worth more then an opinion.
I could post lots of supporting info. You wouldn't look at any of it. So then what is the point again?

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Re: Bombs away in Syria

Post by sanfordandson » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:30 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:02 pm

I could post lots of supporting info. You wouldn't look at any of it. So then what is the point again?
AKA...you dont have any supporting info.... =D>

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Re: Bombs away in Syria

Post by Kevin Johnson » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:01 pm

Ratu wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:53 am
j-c-c

So that'd be a yes. You believe it was right and moral to attack Syrians with cruise missiles, as has just been done.

Before we discuss this topic further read this:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04- ... to+zero%29

Make certain to play the embedded film clips.
Yes, definitely check out the sleeves of the jacket of the hero boy in the video and purported cast. I remember going through similar exercises with the twin towers. There are more examples but I leave it to the gentle reader to hone her or his powers of observation. RIP Isaac Asimov.

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Re: Bombs away in Syria

Post by RevTheory » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:43 pm

sanfordandson wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:30 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:02 pm

I could post lots of supporting info. You wouldn't look at any of it. So then what is the point again?
AKA...you dont have any supporting info.... =D>
I'm pretty sure you didn't bother watching the link I posted. Snipe, troll hits are much easier. Go ahead, complete nonsense beats the hell out of actually thinking about things.

I'd recommend some books but they have words, and pages and paragraphs and all kinds of scary things that your troll existence can't process.

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Re: Bombs away in Syria

Post by Ratu » Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:04 am

j-c-c

So you visited that link? I hope you took a very careful look at what is going on there.

Now, do not get too excited and jump to conclusions just yet. You came to form your personal biases, beliefs, prejudices and adopt whatever values you profess as the result of a maze all of your own. The trap is that such things are usually the result of a significant intellectual effort towards "buying in". That investment makes the biases, beliefs, prejudices, adopted values and such like very difficult to give up, especially when facts rebut them. Facts are cruel things. They are no respecter of beliefs, nor do they respect national myths, nor the media stories people are all too often immersed in until their faculties are drowned...

At this point we need to narrow the focus some. Once we have dealt with an immediate issue we can go onward from there and discuss others.

First, let's make an assumption. Let's ASSUME for the sake of our investigation that the so-called chemical weapons attacks on civilians did not occur at all. The question is this: Was the missile attacks made by the UK and the US right and moral?

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Re: Bombs away in Syria

Post by Ratu » Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:06 am

Kevin

Yes, most interesting indeed.

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