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Zuckerberg Can't Define 'Hate Speech'?

Post by Ken0069 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:00 am

Yet he says that he's developing "artificial intelligence" to deal with it on Facebook?? :roll:

Zuckerberg Can't Define 'Hate Speech' in Senate Hearing Despite Pushing to Police It
Apr 11, 2018
Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg was unable to define “hate speech” when asked to do so by Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE), during his testimony Tuesday before the Senate, despite voicing plans to develop artificial intelligence tools to flag and ban hate speech.

Sen. Sasse opened by expressing concern about Facebook deciding “it needs to police a whole bunch of speech that I think America might be better off not having policed by one company that has a really big and powerful platform.”

“Can you define hate speech?” he asked Zuckerberg.

“Senator, I think that this is a really hard question,” Zuckerberg replied, “and I think it’s one of the reasons why we struggle with it.”

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Re: Zuckerberg Can't Define 'Hate Speech'?

Post by j-c-c » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:20 am

Ironic thing is though, those spouting the most "hate" speech, often profess they are only stating "facts". #-o

Golden rule might be first bench mark if one needs a definition.

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Re: Zuckerberg Can't Define 'Hate Speech'?

Post by exhaustgases » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:06 pm

He should have asked me. The Marxist socialist communist demo c rat definition of hate speech is any speech that is against their agenda, s.......

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Re: Zuckerberg Can't Define 'Hate Speech'?

Post by j-c-c » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:09 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:06 pm
He should have asked me. The Marxist socialist communist demo c rat definition of hate speech is any speech that is against their agenda, s.......

Stick with that, if it makes you happy.

Why should I upset your boat?

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Re: Zuckerberg Can't Define 'Hate Speech'?

Post by exhaustgases » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:56 pm

j-c-c wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:09 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:06 pm
He should have asked me. The Marxist socialist communist demo c rat definition of hate speech is any speech that is against their agenda, s.......

Stick with that, if it makes you happy.

Why should I upset your boat?
Because its the correct answer in a nut shell.

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Re: Zuckerberg Can't Define 'Hate Speech'?

Post by j-c-c » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:05 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:56 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:09 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:06 pm
He should have asked me. The Marxist socialist communist demo c rat definition of hate speech is any speech that is against their agenda, s.......

Stick with that, if it makes you happy.

Why should I upset your boat?
Because its the correct answer in a nut shell.
Took the words right out of my mouth.

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Re: Zuckerberg Can't Define 'Hate Speech'?

Post by exhaustgases » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:43 pm

j-c-c wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:05 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:56 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:09 pm



Stick with that, if it makes you happy.

Why should I upset your boat?
Because its the correct answer in a nut shell.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
And if you are responding with sarcasm, it proves that engineering education was very lacking. Since the definition of "In a nut shell" means "summed up", "condensed". Or the full explanation of the topic.

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Re: Zuckerberg Can't Define 'Hate Speech'?

Post by j-c-c » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:42 am

exhaustgases wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:43 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:05 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:56 pm

Because its the correct answer in a nut shell.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
And if you are responding with sarcasm, it proves that engineering education was very lacking. Since the definition of "In a nut shell" means "summed up", "condensed". Or the full explanation of the topic.
If i remember correctly, I received an "A" in my Technical writing class at GT back in the day, but I bypassed the "online banter" offering, deal with it. #-o

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Re: Zuckerberg Can't Define 'Hate Speech'?

Post by rebelrouser » Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:03 pm

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/publ ... _hate.html
lawyers use this definition.
Hate speech is speech that offends, threatens, or insults groups, based on race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, disability, or other traits. or there is no right to speak fighting words—those words without social value, directed to a specific individual, that would provoke a reasonable member of the group about whom the words are spoken.

seems reasonable to me.

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Re: Zuckerberg Can't Define 'Hate Speech'?

Post by David Redszus » Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:49 pm

rebelrouser wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:03 pm
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/publ ... _hate.html
lawyers use this definition.
Hate speech is speech that offends, threatens, or insults groups, based on race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, disability, or other traits. or there is no right to speak fighting words—those words without social value, directed to a specific individual, that would provoke a reasonable member of the group about whom the words are spoken.

seems reasonable to me.
You're joking right?

Free speech and hate speech cannot coexist.
The definition given above is sheer socialist nonsense.

If I cannot express my opinion, then neither can you speak against it.

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Re: Zuckerberg Can't Define 'Hate Speech'?

Post by j-c-c » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:56 pm

David Redszus wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:49 pm
rebelrouser wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:03 pm
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/publ ... _hate.html
lawyers use this definition.
Hate speech is speech that offends, threatens, or insults groups, based on race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, disability, or other traits. or there is no right to speak fighting words—those words without social value, directed to a specific individual, that would provoke a reasonable member of the group about whom the words are spoken.

seems reasonable to me.
You're joking right?

Free speech and hate speech cannot coexist.
The definition given above is sheer socialist nonsense.

If I cannot express my opinion, then neither can you speak against it.
Isn't the main stumbling block the inclusion of the single word "Offends"?

Otherwise I find it hard to object to, except maybe better define 'words without social value", if possible.

I reserve the right to defend anyone's right to feel something I said is offensive, and no more. :mrgreen:

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Re: Zuckerberg Can't Define 'Hate Speech'?

Post by David Redszus » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:27 pm

j-c-c wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:56 pm
David Redszus wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:49 pm
rebelrouser wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:03 pm
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/publ ... _hate.html
lawyers use this definition.
Hate speech is speech that offends, threatens, or insults groups, based on race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, disability, or other traits. or there is no right to speak fighting words—those words without social value, directed to a specific individual, that would provoke a reasonable member of the group about whom the words are spoken.

seems reasonable to me.
You're joking right?

Free speech and hate speech cannot coexist.
The definition given above is sheer socialist nonsense.

If I cannot express my opinion, then neither can you speak against it.
Isn't the main stumbling block the inclusion of the single word "Offends"?

Otherwise I find it hard to object to, except maybe better define 'words without social value", if possible.

I reserve the right to defend anyone's right to feel something I said is offensive, and no more. :mrgreen:
As near as I can tell, there are no Constitutional protections against being "offended".

It is my right to offend you.
Get used to it.

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Re: Zuckerberg Can't Define 'Hate Speech'?

Post by exhaustgases » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:48 pm

Well if its offend, then all the Marxist on here offend me every time they write something here. So stop it.

What is really needed is what my "Mommy" taught me as a little kid. Quote from my Mom, "If anyone ever calls you a name or says something bad about you remember this, STICKS AND STONES SHALL HURT MY BONES, BUT NAMES WILL NEVER HURT ME." And all through school I was called names and such, when the goofs did that I just smiled and walked away, Mom was right. That is how to handle all your SO CALLED hate speech, and what should be told to everyone, and how to deal with it.
Again the Marxist socialist communist demo c rat definition is any speech against their agenda's.

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Re: Zuckerberg Can't Define 'Hate Speech'?

Post by j-c-c » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:58 pm

David Redszus wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:27 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:56 pm
David Redszus wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:49 pm


You're joking right?

Free speech and hate speech cannot coexist.
The definition given above is sheer socialist nonsense.

If I cannot express my opinion, then neither can you speak against it.
Isn't the main stumbling block the inclusion of the single word "Offends"?

Otherwise I find it hard to object to, except maybe better define 'words without social value", if possible.

I reserve the right to defend anyone's right to feel something I said is offensive, and no more. :mrgreen:
As near as I can tell, there are no Constitutional protections against being "offended".

It is my right to offend you.
Get used to it.
You didn't read my comment very carefully, did you?
And good Luck, its also my right to decide what offends me, that being said, ever seen me offended yet? :lol:
The strange reality, guess who ends up looking the most foolish?

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Re: Zuckerberg Can't Define 'Hate Speech'?

Post by exhaustgases » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:04 pm

There is no "hate" speech. If someone doesn't want to hear it then plug your ears.

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