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And now we have collusion

Post by mk e » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:24 pm

You had to know this was coming by the way Nunes slammed the house investigation closed......

https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek ... 97%3famp=1
In a court filing Tuesday night special counsel Robert Mueller alleges Rick Gates, a close associate of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, knew the two were working with a former Russian intelligence officer during the 2016 election.....
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Re: And now we have collusion

Post by lefty o » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:29 pm

show proof. what you linked is pure speculation. did it happen, did it not....show proof!

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Re: And now we have collusion

Post by mk e » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:41 pm

lefty o wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:29 pm
show proof. what you linked is pure speculation. did it happen, did it not....show proof!
The article says, and the same story is all over the news including FOX, that Muellers team is telling the court Manfort and Gate were working with Russian intelligence and knew that they were, during the campaign. Gates has confessed to that and that confession is being used as evidence the lawyer lied to the fbi.

If there is anything untrue about that all the lawyers involved would lose their licences and be subject to perjury charges.

Sorry, but you had to know this was coming when the campaign was crawling with people tied to Russia.....the simplest answer is usually the correct one.
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Re: And now we have collusion

Post by lefty o » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:43 pm

mk e wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:41 pm
lefty o wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:29 pm
show proof. what you linked is pure speculation. did it happen, did it not....show proof!
The article says, and the same story is all over the news including FOX, that Muellers team is telling the court Manfort and Gate were working with Russian intelligence and knew that they were, during the campaign. Gates has confessed to that and that confession is being used as evidence the lawyer lied to the fbi.

If there is anything untrue about that all the lawyers involved would lose their licences and be subject to perjury charges.

Sorry, but you had to know this was coming when the campaign was crawling with people tied to Russia.....the simplest answer is usually the correct one.
show proof, what you showed is lawyers filing speculation that they may or may not later prove. for an engineer you sure seem to think guess work is accurate! #-o guess you think the word "alleges" means conviction with certainty eh LOL

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Re: And now we have collusion

Post by engineczar » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:48 pm

mk e wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:24 pm
You had to know this was coming by the way Nunes slammed the house investigation closed......

https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek ... 97%3famp=1
In a court filing Tuesday night special counsel Robert Mueller alleges Rick Gates, a close associate of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, knew the two were working with a former Russian intelligence officer during the 2016 election.....
A Nothingburger as usual

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Re: And now we have collusion

Post by lefty o » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:49 pm

engineczar wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:48 pm
mk e wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:24 pm
You had to know this was coming by the way Nunes slammed the house investigation closed......

https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek ... 97%3famp=1
In a court filing Tuesday night special counsel Robert Mueller alleges Rick Gates, a close associate of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, knew the two were working with a former Russian intelligence officer during the 2016 election.....
A Nothingburger as usual
correct, more speculation without a shred of proof.

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Re: And now we have collusion

Post by mk e » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:56 pm

lefty o wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:43 pm

show proof, what you showed is lawyers filing speculation that they may or may not later prove. for an engineer you sure seem to think guess work is accurate! #-o guess you think the word "alleges" means conviction with certainty eh LOL
No. What we have is the testimony of a witness in court, and the defenant pleaded guilty of obstruction for telling a different story.....which is pretty much the legal definition of proof.

Again I'm sorry this isn't what you wanted to hear and doesn't natchb the story Donald has been telling you, but Donald has quite a long history of lying to anyone and everyone about pretty much everything.....and you clearly have the ability to lie to yourself ;)
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Re: And now we have collusion

Post by lefty o » Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:01 pm

mk e wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:56 pm
lefty o wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:43 pm

show proof, what you showed is lawyers filing speculation that they may or may not later prove. for an engineer you sure seem to think guess work is accurate! #-o guess you think the word "alleges" means conviction with certainty eh LOL
No. What we have is the testimony of a witness in court, and the defenant pleaded guilty of obstruction for telling a different story.....which is pretty much the legal definition of proof.

Again I'm sorry this isn't what you wanted to hear and doesn't natchb the story Donald has been telling you, but Donald has quite a long history of lying to anyone and everyone about pretty much everything.....and you clearly have the ability to lie to yourself ;)
sorry little guy, i dont care one way or the other, but i want proof. you dont happen to remember the phrase innocent until proven guilty. it means something. the link you posted and are using as proof, is merely an allegation, nothing more. hope you do better on your day job! as for lying, we have already established between you and me who is the liar, and it aint me!

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Re: And now we have collusion

Post by mk e » Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:09 pm

2 people have now confessed. So proven guilty by their own admission/ testimony against themselves. That is normally considered pretty compelling proof.

Now the open question, and I assume what Mualler wants to talj to Rump about, is how exactly did Manafort end up working for the campaign.
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Re: And now we have collusion

Post by lefty o » Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:10 pm

mk e wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:09 pm
2 people have now confessed. That is normally considered pretty compelling proof.

Now the open question, and I assume what Mualler wants to talj to Rump about, is how exactly did Manafort end up working for the campaign.
when your done assuming, and come up with some facts to support your flapping jaws, maybe the rest of us will listen.

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Re: And now we have collusion

Post by RevTheory » Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:44 pm

This is just more road noise from the guy who was spouting off about how Trump would be indicted within six months.

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Re: And now we have collusion

Post by rebelrouser » Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:39 pm

Bob Mueller, knows how important this case is, and this leak is just that a small leak, he will have all the facts listed and double checked, just like in the other indictments he has handed down. No innocent man squirms, tweets, and fires people like Trump. To many Russian names keep coming up for their to be nothing at the bottom of this affair. Next thing I want to know is who recommended Trump hire Manafort and the others? Trump did not have a relationship with any of them until running for president.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ed/544358/

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Re: And now we have collusion

Post by mk e » Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:41 pm

lefty o wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:10 pm
mk e wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:09 pm
2 people have now confessed. That is normally considered pretty compelling proof.

Now the open question, and I assume what Mualler wants to talj to Rump about, is how exactly did Manafort end up working for the campaign.
when your done assuming, and come up with some facts to support your flapping jaws, maybe the rest of us will listen.
I'll type sloooower this time

2 people have now confessed and pleaded guilty which means they are now CONVICTED.

Today's information at the SENTENCING hearing was the prosecutor explaining to the judge what exactly they were CONVICTED of so the judge understand the severity.

All public record, there is nothing at all to assume, it is simply what happened.

You can still argue this was all Manafort and his boys and Rump knew nothing about it, but Manafort was running the campaign so the campaign was colluding with the Russian government....so the question now is was it with or without Rump's knowledge?
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Re: And now we have collusion

Post by mk e » Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:44 pm

rebelrouser wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:39 pm
Bob Mueller, knows how important this case is, and this leak is just that a small leak, ....
Its not a leak. This information had to be disclosed to the judge so the judge understood the crime the man had pleaded guilty to and could be sentenced accordingly. This is why these things take so long, each piece both moves you forward and discloses information to the targets so the moves need to be made methodically.
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Re: And now we have collusion

Post by sanfordandson » Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:15 pm

mk e wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:41 pm
I'll type sloooower this time
You can't type slow enough for these trump loving morons....

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