Todays History Lesson

Any topic with a chance of polarization - Not for the easily offended.

Moderator: Team

Post Reply
1989TransAm
Guru
Guru
Posts: 5235
Joined: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:43 pm
Location: Cypress, California

Todays History Lesson

Post by 1989TransAm » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:51 pm

The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. Beer required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture.

Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while the early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery.

That's how villages were formed.

The wheel was invented to get man to the beer and vice versa. These two inventions were the foundation of modern civilization and together, were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:

1. Liberals
2. Conservatives

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to BBQ at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement.

Other men who were less skilled at hunting (called 'vegetarians’ which was an early word meaning ‘bad hunter’) learned to live off the Conservatives by showing up for the nightly BBQs and doing the sewing, fetching, and hairdressing. This was the beginning of the liberal movement.

Some of these liberal men evolved into women. Others became known as girlie-men. Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that Conservatives provided.

Over the years, Conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass for obvious reasons.

Modern Liberals like lite beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare.

Another interesting evolutionary side note: many liberal women have higher testosterone levels than their men.

Most college professors, social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, film makers in Hollywood, group therapists and community organizers are liberals. Liberals meddled in our national pastime and invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat.

Conservatives drink real beer. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are members of the military, big game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, engineers, corporate executives, athletes, airline pilots, and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other Conservatives who want to work for a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans.

That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when Conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing.

Here ends today's lesson in world history. It should be noted that a liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to this post.

A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth of this history that it will be shared immediately to other true believers and to just piss-off more liberals.

And there you have it. Let your next action reveal your true self, I'm going to grab a few beers and grill some steaks.

GLHS60
Pro
Pro
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:55 am
Location: Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada

Re: Todays History Lesson

Post by GLHS60 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:34 am

A good History Lesson, even though I don't drink beer !!!

Thanks
Randy
Sherwood Park
Alberta,Canada

Firedome8
Guru
Guru
Posts: 1521
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:16 pm

Re: Todays History Lesson

Post by Firedome8 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:44 am

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_liberalism

Some actual information as opposed tho your fake history lesson,

j-c-c
Pro
Pro
Posts: 219
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:03 pm

Re: Todays History Lesson

Post by j-c-c » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:23 pm

Firedome8 wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:44 am
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_liberalism

Some actual information as opposed tho your fake history lesson,
Those that eagerly expound simple binary thinking, seldom are looking for deeper understanding of the matters at hand, has been my life observation.
Having two opposite choices, simplifies their decisions, and is apparently comforting, regardless of the merits of their choice.
This country has been in self denial about socialism for many decades, social security, medicare, interstate highway system, post office, public schools, fire depart, EPA, public libraries, police department, parks, etc, etc.

pdq67
Guru
Guru
Posts: 6730
Joined: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:05 pm

Re: Todays History Lesson

Post by pdq67 » Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:36 am

j-c-c wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:23 pm
Firedome8 wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:44 am
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_liberalism

Some actual information as opposed tho your fake history lesson,
Those that eagerly expound simple binary thinking, seldom are looking for deeper understanding of the matters at hand, has been my life observation.
Having two opposite choices, simplifies their decisions, and is apparently comforting, regardless of the merits of their choice.
This country has been in self denial about socialism for many decades, social security, medicare, interstate highway system, post office, public schools, fire depart, EPA, public libraries, police department, parks, etc, etc.
I think that almost all of what you have listed has now become, "BIG BUSINESS", that is used to grow ever, "BIGGER GOV.", but I may be wrong.

1. Social security was once a good idea, but like most things ran by the Gov. got bastardized over time!

2. Medicare, imho, is actually a good deal IF we can get the GOV. out of it!

3. interstate highway system was a good deal. it made us mobile nation wide, but did destroy a lot of big city black neighborhoods which I figure was the plan back then.

4. Post office, imho, it is one of the few things that actually works, but it is a captive private enterprise so it has to really fight to survive Gov. destruction.

5. Public schools, damned near have become a total, "Social Experiment", Gov. disaster. Get rid if tenure and the Gov. always f**ing with it to MAGA!

5. Fire departments, We don't need a, "percent population/fire dept. growth rate"! We have more damned fire department's here in town than I know where they are!

6. EPA! It has gotten totally out of control! Non-elected officials making LAWS/REGULATIONS that aren't voted on! It used to be that almost ALL medium sized towns had dirty, "Mom and Pop", foundries and forge shops in them, but no more, too dirty! And just where did the jobs they both created go to?

7. Public libraries, still a good idea!

8. Police departments, aka, P/S! Have become militarized as well as anti-population! just enforce the LAWS on the books at maximum sentence by the Courts would go a long way fixing a lot of our society's problems, that and getting our OWN Gov. out of drug trafficking! Why are our Troops protecting the poppy fields over in the ME?? Ask THEM that question!!

9. Parks! This is a toughie! When is enough parks enough? And we shouldn't make them a, "Profit Center", as I see it! I drove to SEMA one year and wante3d to stop by and look at the Grand canyon, the Meteor Crater and the Petrified Forest National parks until I found out that doing so was going to cost my over $60 or more so I drove on by!

10. Etc, etc. And the list of now Gov. made, "Profit Centers", keep's growing and growing.

Not good imho.. But what are WE, the F**, "TAXPAYERS", going to do?? And how do WE make EVERYBODY living in our GREAT COUNTRY pay their FARE SHARE? The poor, middle class, AND the RICH!

pdq67

j-c-c
Pro
Pro
Posts: 219
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:03 pm

Re: Todays History Lesson

Post by j-c-c » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:55 pm

All good points worthy of much discussion, but I hope my main point was not overlooked, we already have and have had many classic "socialistic" programs in the US, are they what they were intended in the beginning, absolutely not, does the gov often screw up worthy ideas, absolutely, but the constant knee jerk hypocritical outrage when the word "socialism" get even mentioned, seems to me very disingenuous when the US has a many decade history of socialism already, which I gave examples that you commented on. I'd like to get past the stigma of "socialism" as a "dog whistle", and spend more time fixing what we got, as these programs do help many.

Firedome8
Guru
Guru
Posts: 1521
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:16 pm

Re: Todays History Lesson

Post by Firedome8 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:19 pm


1989TransAm
Guru
Guru
Posts: 5235
Joined: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:43 pm
Location: Cypress, California

Re: Todays History Lesson

Post by 1989TransAm » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:46 pm

Thank You President Trump for giving our allies courage and standing behind them. This is how you get it done.

Brian P
Guru
Guru
Posts: 1222
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:35 pm
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Re: Todays History Lesson

Post by Brian P » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:43 pm

The binary, polarized viewpoint is seldom the most appropriate one.

Not everything has to be categorized left or right, liberal or conservative. Not every issue fits into the same viewpoint. It is possible to be "liberal" on some topics but "conservative" on others ... and middle ground on others. Extremism is almost always bad - and the consequences of extreme left are indistinguishable from the consequences of extreme right.

sanfordandson
Guru
Guru
Posts: 3443
Joined: Sat May 20, 2006 6:28 pm

Re: Todays History Lesson

Post by sanfordandson » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:54 pm

Brian P wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:43 pm
The binary, polarized viewpoint is seldom the most appropriate one.

Not everything has to be categorized left or right, liberal or conservative. Not every issue fits into the same viewpoint. It is possible to be "liberal" on some topics but "conservative" on others ... and middle ground on others. Extremism is almost always bad - and the consequences of extreme left are indistinguishable from the consequences of extreme right.
Well said.

Ive tried to tell some of these guys this for quite a while. They don't want to hear it because they don't know how to fit someone not "extreme" into a category. Then they don't know how to attack. It's messes with their simple minds.

GARY C
Guru
Guru
Posts: 3800
Joined: Tue May 14, 2013 10:58 pm

Re: Todays History Lesson

Post by GARY C » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:22 pm

Hall builders build a path to freedom and prosperity, Hall monitors monitoring the freedom and prosperity they don't agree with.

Can you guess who is who?

It was pretty obvious by 5th grade who would grow up to be the nosy neighbor always complaining about everyone else.

Post Reply