The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by RevTheory » Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:59 pm

1989TransAm wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:42 pm

He is the biggest troll on Speed Talk.
Firecrotch is hard-charging for the lead :mrgreen:

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by 1989TransAm » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:03 pm

RevTheory wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:59 pm
1989TransAm wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:42 pm

He is the biggest troll on Speed Talk.
Firecrotch is hard-charging for the lead :mrgreen:
I have to agree. :mrgreen:

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Post by Ken0069 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:09 pm

I had a job once and I never will forget it!! Come January 3, 2018 I will have been RETIRED from RR Donnelley Printing Co for 12 years!!!

So what's going to happen when the ACA explodes within the next year or two? Not likely that Republicraps will have a "Super Majority" in the Senate so there's going to have to be something worked out between the liberal/progressive/socialist pieces of shit and those RINOs who will likely still be in charge after the mid terms? :-k
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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

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Ken0069 wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:09 pm
I had a job once and I never will forget it!! Come January 3, 2018 I will have been RETIRED from RR Donnelley Printing Co for 12 years!!!

So what's going to happen when the ACA explodes within the next year or two? Not likely that Republicraps will have a "Super Majority" in the Senate so there's going to have to be something worked out between the liberal/progressive/socialist pieces of shit and those RINOs who will likely still be in charge after the mid terms? :-k
This guy does not realise he is benefiting from social government programs. And he calls other people morons

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Firedome8 wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:09 pm
Ken0069 wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:09 pm
I had a job once and I never will forget it!! Come January 3, 2018 I will have been RETIRED from RR Donnelley Printing Co for 12 years!!!

So what's going to happen when the ACA explodes within the next year or two? Not likely that Republicraps will have a "Super Majority" in the Senate so there's going to have to be something worked out between the liberal/progressive/socialist pieces of shit and those RINOs who will likely still be in charge after the mid terms? :-k
This guy does not realise he is benefiting from social government programs. And he calls other people morons
I noticed that. Very strange.

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by pdq67 » Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:58 am

IF and it is a hell of a big IF!!

If I was told graduating from HS that I could sign a paper that said that I didn't have to pay in any SS and Medicare/Supplemental IF I created my own personal account that I HAD to put so much money into so that I covered myself, I would have done it! And let the GOV. monitor that I was INDEED paying myself so the money actually was put away for my future use!

I am a real hard-ass here, but if people DON'T put away for their future use, then f**'em when they get in trouble and haven't prepared for it!!! Kinda like the, "Grasshopper and the Ant", fable here!

Never happened, now did it so we have what we have!

BUT I will say that if you have NEVER paid in, that you don't get shit!! Why pay people my MONEY that haven't paid in themselves?? Figure this shit out AND I don't mean doing so to buy f** VOTES!!

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Post by machinedave » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:19 am

pdq67 wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:58 am
IF and it is a hell of a big IF!!

If I was told graduating from HS that I could sign a paper that said that I didn't have to pay in any SS and Medicare/Supplemental IF I created my own personal account that I HAD to put so much money into so that I covered myself, I would have done it! And let the GOV. monitor that I was INDEED paying myself so the money actually was put away for my future use!

I am a real hard-ass here, but if people DON'T put away for their future use, then f**'em when they get in trouble and haven't prepared for it!!! Kinda like the, "Grasshopper and the Ant", fable here!

Never happened, now did it so we have what we have!

BUT I will say that if you have NEVER paid in, that you don't get shit!! Why pay people my MONEY that haven't paid in themselves?? Figure this shit out AND I don't mean doing so to buy f** VOTES!!

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This is exactly right. I would do the same. We would be so much better off. My dad paid a huge amount of money in SS taxes and died at age 61 never receiving a penny of it.

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by pdq67 » Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:14 pm

Damn!

I hit the, "6", instead of the. "7", sorry, my bad!

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Post by Ken0069 » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:56 pm

pdq67 wrote:If I was told graduating from HS that I could sign a paper that said that I didn't have to pay in any SS and Medicare/Supplemental IF I created my own personal account that I HAD to put so much money into so that I covered myself, I would have done it! And let the GOV. monitor that I was INDEED paying myself so the money actually was put away for my future use!
Shrub II tried to do that when he was in office, ie, allow ppl coming into the system to put aside money for their own retirement but those infamous "polls" showed declining support that kinda killed that deal. Shame they didn't go ahead and do something with it then though.

Why the 2005 Social Security Initiative Failed, and What it Means for the Future
William A. Galston
Friday, September 21, 2007
Following his successful 2004 reelection campaign, President George W. Bush designated fundamental Social Security reform as his top domestic priority. This was anything but an impulsive decision. As early as his 1978 congressional race, he had suggested that the Social Security System could not be sustained unless individuals were allowed to invest the payroll tax themselves. Overriding the doubts of some political advisors, he raised the issue while announcing his first presidential race, declaring that “We should trust Americans by giving them the option of investing part of their Social Security contributions in private accounts.” (more here)
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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by pdq67 » Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:26 pm

machinedave wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:19 am
pdq67 wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:58 am
IF and it is a hell of a big IF!!

If I was told graduating from HS that I could sign a paper that said that I didn't have to pay in any SS and Medicare/Supplemental IF I created my own personal account that I HAD to put so much money into so that I covered myself, I would have done it! And let the GOV. monitor that I was INDEED paying myself so the money actually was put away for my future use!

I am a real hard-ass here, but if people DON'T put away for their future use, then f**'em when they get in trouble and haven't prepared for it!!! Kinda like the, "Grasshopper and the Ant", fable here!

Never happened, now did it so we have what we have!

BUT I will say that if you have NEVER paid in, that you don't get shit!! Why pay people my MONEY that haven't paid in themselves?? Figure this shit out AND I don't mean doing so to buy f** VOTES!!

pdq66
This is exactly right. I would do the same. We would be so much better off. My dad paid a huge amount of money in SS taxes and died at age 61 never receiving a penny of it.
I hope that your Mom got to use your Dad's SS. My Mom did and it to helped to raise us kids until we reached 18 years old if not mistaken?.

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by machinedave » Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:12 pm

pdq67 wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:26 pm
machinedave wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:19 am
pdq67 wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:58 am
IF and it is a hell of a big IF!!

If I was told graduating from HS that I could sign a paper that said that I didn't have to pay in any SS and Medicare/Supplemental IF I created my own personal account that I HAD to put so much money into so that I covered myself, I would have done it! And let the GOV. monitor that I was INDEED paying myself so the money actually was put away for my future use!

I am a real hard-ass here, but if people DON'T put away for their future use, then f**'em when they get in trouble and haven't prepared for it!!! Kinda like the, "Grasshopper and the Ant", fable here!

Never happened, now did it so we have what we have!

BUT I will say that if you have NEVER paid in, that you don't get shit!! Why pay people my MONEY that haven't paid in themselves?? Figure this shit out AND I don't mean doing so to buy f** VOTES!!

pdq66
This is exactly right. I would do the same. We would be so much better off. My dad paid a huge amount of money in SS taxes and died at age 61 never receiving a penny of it.
I hope that your Mom got to use your Dad's SS. My Mom did and it to helped to raise us kids until we reached 18 years old if not mistaken?.

pdq67

He divorced her when I was 12 but they were married for over 10 years so after he passed away she started receiving a big increase in her SS checks.

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by pdq67 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:09 am

Dave,

Sorry to hear about the divorce.

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by Firedome8 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:57 am

What can you do when you can not afford a health care premium and deductible ? Before the ACA when your medical bills exceed your ability to pay they took everything you own and when destitute Medicaid took over. Is that the system we want to return to ?

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by Firedome8 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:02 pm

Ken0069 wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:56 pm
pdq67 wrote:If I was told graduating from HS that I could sign a paper that said that I didn't have to pay in any SS and Medicare/Supplemental IF I created my own personal account that I HAD to put so much money into so that I covered myself, I would have done it! And let the GOV. monitor that I was INDEED paying myself so the money actually was put away for my future use!
Shrub II tried to do that when he was in office, ie, allow ppl coming into the system to put aside money for their own retirement but those infamous "polls" showed declining support that kinda killed that deal. Shame they didn't go ahead and do something with it then though.

Why the 2005 Social Security Initiative Failed, and What it Means for the Future
William A. Galston
Friday, September 21, 2007
Following his successful 2004 reelection campaign, President George W. Bush designated fundamental Social Security reform as his top domestic priority. This was anything but an impulsive decision. As early as his 1978 congressional race, he had suggested that the Social Security System could not be sustained unless individuals were allowed to invest the payroll tax themselves. Overriding the doubts of some political advisors, he raised the issue while announcing his first presidential race, declaring that “We should trust Americans by giving them the option of investing part of their Social Security contributions in private accounts.” (more here)
And when the banks went belley up in 2009 poof their went your money ! And when the pos bush said we must give the banks trillions you would still be f.

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by pdq67 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:53 pm

Right! This, TOO BIG TO FAIL", BULLSHIT need's to stop!

Make the ones that f**'d up pay their losses out of their own pockets even if it mean's MAKING THEM HOMELESS!

About one cycle around and I bet a lot of them wouldn't allow things to get f**'d again!

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