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The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by Ken0069 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:42 pm

Looks like the Tax Bill passing and along with it the repeal of the obamacare mandate will be the the virtual nail in the coffin for obamacare! Without the mandate it can't survive!

Winning: Trump Takes Victory Lap After Republicans Pass Tax Cuts
President Trump is praising Republicans for passing historic tax cuts Wednesday afternoon and will host lawmakers at the White House for a celebration.

After the House voted and passed a revised Senate version of the legislation, lawmakers who voted in favor congregated outside of the Capitol to board buses down to Pennsylvania Avenue.

The bill will be signed by President Trump in the coming days and will go into effect in February.

"We had a historic victory for the American people. It will go through final passage today in the House. Then the congressmen and women and the Senate will be coming over -- the Republican Senate," Trump said at the White House earlier today. "We're going to have the Republican senators come over, we're going to have the Republican members of the House come over. And we're going to have a news conference. And people are starting to see how great this historic victory was." (more here)
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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by 1989TransAm » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:05 pm

This bill ripped the guts right out of Obamacare. It is no longer a mandate. People are now free to chose their healthcare system.

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by Firedome8 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:33 pm

What if it cost 6000.00 month ? Ware is the great affordable health plans that trump said we will get? It is fine for you and Ken who have a socialist plan !

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by Firedome8 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:10 pm

In the United States, Medicare is a single-payer, national social insurance program administered by the U.S. federal government since 1966, currently using about 30–50 private insurance companies across the United States under contract for administration.

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by 1989TransAm » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:34 pm

I have a feeling healthcare will come back to the forefront in 2018.

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by dirtracr5 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:38 pm

I assume this means premiums will drop to pre obamacare levels or close at least?

Anybody heard any numbers yet of premium reductions?

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by David Redszus » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:24 pm

dirtracr5 wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:38 pm
I assume this means premiums will drop to pre obamacare levels or close at least?

Anybody heard any numbers yet of premium reductions?
Premiums may or may not drop, depending on marketplace forces.
But they will not be mandated by an ignorant government agency.

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by sanfordandson » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:34 pm

David Redszus wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:24 pm


Premiums may or may not drop, depending on marketplace forces.
But they will not be mandated by an ignorant government agency.
According to every trumptard, obamacare was the sole reason for premium increases. Now that trump claims he's killed obamacare they should drop significantly.

Exciting to watch this happen... :lol:

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by Firedome8 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:34 pm

Trump said affordable, and great insurance, we will see.

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by 1989TransAm » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:32 am

Firedome8 wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:34 pm
Trump said affordable, and great insurance, we will see.
You know you can keep your Obamacare if you want to. It is just that the mandate is gone along with the penalty.

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by David Redszus » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:35 am

sanfordandson wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:34 pm
David Redszus wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:24 pm


Premiums may or may not drop, depending on marketplace forces.
But they will not be mandated by an ignorant government agency.
According to every trumptard, obamacare was the sole reason for premium increases. Now that trump claims he's killed obamacare they should drop significantly.
Obamacare was the sole reason for the MASSIVE premium increases and expanded required coverage. Normal market price fluctuations will still occur as they always have.

At the very least, now you have the ability to choose a plan that suits you and not some government bozo.

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by sanfordandson » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:01 pm

David Redszus wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:35 am

Obamacare was the sole reason for the MASSIVE premium increases and expanded required coverage.
Correct.

Can't wait to see my premiums MASSIVELY decrease now! =D>

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by Firedome8 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:32 pm

1989TransAm wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:32 am
Firedome8 wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:34 pm
Trump said affordable, and great insurance, we will see.
You know you can keep your Obamacare if you want to. It is just that the mandate is gone along with the penalty.
Old lies move on to what trump said.

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by David Redszus » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:41 pm

sanfordandson wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:01 pm
David Redszus wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:35 am

Obamacare was the sole reason for the MASSIVE premium increases and expanded required coverage.
Correct.

Can't wait to see my premiums MASSIVELY decrease now! =D>

Did your premiums MASSIVELY increase under Obamacare? If they did you should see a reduction in cost.
If they did not don't expect a reduction; you're simply looking for a free handout.

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Re: The Beginning Of The End For obamacare!

Post by sanfordandson » Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:16 pm

David Redszus wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:41 pm
Did your premiums MASSIVELY increase under Obamacare?
I thought everybody's did? At least that what the trumptards have been telling us. Are they lying?

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