Social Security Benefits Increase 2% For 2018??

Any topic with a chance of polarization - Not for the easily offended.

Moderator: Team

pdq67
Guru
Guru
Posts: 7233
Joined: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:05 pm

Re: Social Security Benefits Increase 2% For 2018??

Post by pdq67 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:39 am

1989TransAm wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:23 pm
Firedome8 wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:43 am
1989TransAm wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:47 pm


Bwahahahahaha. That is a good one. :mrgreen:
From a guy on a government socialism program. How fuc$@! Up is that. Haha lolololol now that is priceless.
To the left wind idiots on this forum. I have paid into SS for around 45 years. I am just getting some of the money I put into it. I don't understand how hard of a concept that is to understand. But then again the liberal brain leaves a lot to be desired. [-X
I paid into SS too, except more like 50+ years!

And I am on Medicare, buy my own supplemental and have a small pension from the State of MO as well as what's left of AP Green Refractories, (now ANH?). My wife is on a MO Teachers Retirement Plan as well as Medicare and our supplemental. I guess that we are bad MF'ers because we worked all our lives plus raised a family!

pdq67

Firedome8
Guru
Guru
Posts: 2542
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:16 pm

Re: Social Security Benefits Increase 2% For 2018??

Post by Firedome8 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:36 am

pdq67 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:39 am
1989TransAm wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:23 pm
Firedome8 wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:43 am


From a guy on a government socialism program. How fuc$@! Up is that. Haha lolololol now that is priceless.
To the left wind idiots on this forum. I have paid into SS for around 45 years. I am just getting some of the money I put into it. I don't understand how hard of a concept that is to understand. But then again the liberal brain leaves a lot to be desired. [-X
I paid into SS too, except more like 50+ years!

And I am on Medicare, buy my own supplemental and have a small pension from the State of MO as well as what's left of AP Green Refractories, (now ANH?). My wife is on a MO Teachers Retirement Plan as well as Medicare and our supplemental. I guess that we are bad MF'ers because we worked all our lives plus raised a family!

pdq67
Just see it for what it is ,,,Social securityis a socialist idea that is working for a lot of people that need it ,including those that have not paid in . Ss tax should apply to all income. I think it should be reformed but tax cuts for corporate elete is much more pressing.

1989TransAm
Guru
Guru
Posts: 6719
Joined: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:43 pm
Location: Cypress, California

Re: Social Security Benefits Increase 2% For 2018??

Post by 1989TransAm » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:27 am

Firedome8 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:36 am
pdq67 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:39 am
1989TransAm wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:23 pm


To the left wind idiots on this forum. I have paid into SS for around 45 years. I am just getting some of the money I put into it. I don't understand how hard of a concept that is to understand. But then again the liberal brain leaves a lot to be desired. [-X
I paid into SS too, except more like 50+ years!

And I am on Medicare, buy my own supplemental and have a small pension from the State of MO as well as what's left of AP Green Refractories, (now ANH?). My wife is on a MO Teachers Retirement Plan as well as Medicare and our supplemental. I guess that we are bad MF'ers because we worked all our lives plus raised a family!

pdq67
Just see it for what it is ,,,Social securityis a socialist idea that is working for a lot of people that need it ,including those that have not paid in . Ss tax should apply to all income. I think it should be reformed but tax cuts for corporate elete is much more pressing.
dimoKKKRATS have fought every attempt by Republicans to reform it. Those who have not paid into it including illegals should not be getting anything from SS. As to corparate tax rate we have some of the highest in the world. President Trump wants to bring it more into alignment with the rest of the world. All that money that is parked overseas he wants to bring it back into this country. Jobs, jobs, jobs.

User avatar
woody b
Guru
Guru
Posts: 1213
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:58 pm

Re: Social Security Benefits Increase 2% For 2018??

Post by woody b » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:38 pm

There's a few problems with Social Security. IMHO the biggest problem is politicians stealing from the SS trust fund. SS would be fine if the funds were left alone. The other problem is, you don't have to pay anything to receive benefits. Unlike the hard working people here there's a BUNCH of people drawing SS checks that never worked a day in their life or paid one penny into it. In addition to that the Speedtalkers who've paid into the SS trust fund for years have to pay more for Medicare, and supplements lazy people who've never paid a dime receive "medicaid". The get a SS check, and also get all of their healthcare provided for free. Out of my last 2 week paycheck I paid $222.46 to SS and $52.03 to Medicare. My employer also has to match this amount, so that's ~$550 sent to SS and Medicare every 2 weeks. People who are self employed pay the entire $550 out of their pocket, instead of their employer paying half.

But someone who never worked still get's a SS check, and doesn't have to pay additional money for healthcare.
I used to be a people person, but people ruined it.

dirtracr5
Guru
Guru
Posts: 1432
Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:29 pm

Re: Social Security Benefits Increase 2% For 2018??

Post by dirtracr5 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:18 pm

What about a housewife who never works a regular job but stays home to raise kids?

What about folks that pass away before being able to collect?

GARY C
Guru
Guru
Posts: 4336
Joined: Tue May 14, 2013 10:58 pm

Re: Social Security Benefits Increase 2% For 2018??

Post by GARY C » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:56 pm

woody b wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:38 pm
There's a few problems with Social Security. IMHO the biggest problem is politicians stealing from the SS trust fund. SS would be fine if the funds were left alone. The other problem is, you don't have to pay anything to receive benefits. Unlike the hard working people here there's a BUNCH of people drawing SS checks that never worked a day in their life or paid one penny into it. In addition to that the Speedtalkers who've paid into the SS trust fund for years have to pay more for Medicare, and supplements lazy people who've never paid a dime receive "medicaid". The get a SS check, and also get all of their healthcare provided for free. Out of my last 2 week paycheck I paid $222.46 to SS and $52.03 to Medicare. My employer also has to match this amount, so that's ~$550 sent to SS and Medicare every 2 weeks. People who are self employed pay the entire $550 out of their pocket, instead of their employer paying half.

But someone who never worked still get's a SS check, and doesn't have to pay additional money for healthcare.
Like all gov charity programs, its presented for those that need it and then used to buy vote of those who want it!

Firedome8
Guru
Guru
Posts: 2542
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:16 pm

Re: Social Security Benefits Increase 2% For 2018??

Post by Firedome8 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:25 pm

1989TransAm wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:27 am
Firedome8 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:36 am
pdq67 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:39 am


I paid into SS too, except more like 50+ years!

And I am on Medicare, buy my own supplemental and have a small pension from the State of MO as well as what's left of AP Green Refractories, (now ANH?). My wife is on a MO Teachers Retirement Plan as well as Medicare and our supplemental. I guess that we are bad MF'ers because we worked all our lives plus raised a family!

pdq67
Just see it for what it is ,,,Social securityis a socialist idea that is working for a lot of people that need it ,including those that have not paid in . Ss tax should apply to all income. I think it should be reformed but tax cuts for corporate elete is much more pressing.
dimoKKKRATS have fought every attempt by Republicans to reform it. Those who have not paid into it including illegals should not be getting anything from SS. As to corparate tax rate we have some of the highest in the world. President Trump wants to bring it more into alignment with the rest of the world. All that money that is parked overseas he wants to bring it back into this country. Jobs, jobs, jobs.
Aren't jobs jobs jobs based on demand,, the corporations are flush with money now,stocks at record levels,earnings at an all time hi. What makes you think more money will equate to more jobs. the unemployment numbers at record lows.

sanfordandson
Guru
Guru
Posts: 5035
Joined: Sat May 20, 2006 6:28 pm

Re: Social Security Benefits Increase 2% For 2018??

Post by sanfordandson » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:34 pm

Firedome8 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:25 pm
Aren't jobs jobs jobs based on demand,, the corporations are flush with money now,stocks at record levels,earnings at an all time hi. What makes you think more money will equate to more jobs. the unemployment numbers at record lows.
Trumptards live in a twitter fantasy land.

Companies are having a hard enough time filling positions. So yea...lets have more unfilled jobs!!

pdq67
Guru
Guru
Posts: 7233
Joined: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:05 pm

Re: Social Security Benefits Increase 2% For 2018??

Post by pdq67 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:00 pm

Per Dome above..

"Aren't jobs, jobs, jobs, based on demand,, the corporations are flush with money now, stocks at record levels, earnings at an all time hi. What makes you think more money will equate to more jobs. the unemployment numbers at record lows."

I don't for a minute think that unemployment is at an all time LOW!!

Why doesn't our GOV. add in the people that have given up on working because they just can't find a decent job?

Add in all of them!

The ones that have given up looking for work:

The young;

The old;

Handicapped how ever so;

And whoever else fits in here.

Oh, and count the POS's that are able-bodied that are, "ON THE DOLE", too!

Then I will believe the numbers.

pdq67

pdq67
Guru
Guru
Posts: 7233
Joined: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:05 pm

Re: Social Security Benefits Increase 2% For 2018??

Post by pdq67 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:59 am

pdq67 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:39 am
1989TransAm wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:23 pm
Firedome8 wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:43 am


From a guy on a government socialism program. How fuc$@! Up is that. Haha lolololol now that is priceless.
To the left wind idiots on this forum. I have paid into SS for around 45 years. I am just getting some of the money I put into it. I don't understand how hard of a concept that is to understand. But then again the liberal brain leaves a lot to be desired. [-X
I paid into SS too, except more like 50+ years!

And I am on Medicare, buy my own supplemental and have a small pension from the State of MO as well as what's left of AP Green Refractories, (now ANH?). My wife is on a MO Teachers Retirement Plan as well as Medicare and our supplemental. I guess that we are bad MF'ers because we worked all our lives plus raised a family!

pdq67
Had to revisit this after I got to thinking this morning...

I guess what really concerns me is that most of the jobs I worked at growing up and raising my family don't exist any more so what are our kids and grandkids going to do? I don't think that for the long haul working for a healthcare, a aschool, or our Gov. is going to pan out once our money becomes WORTHLESS like the NWO/Bankers want it to become.

As I see it, there is only three ways to create real wealth and they are!

Grow something;

Mine something; and

Then take what you grow and mine and create a, "VALUE ADDED", product to sell.

So the tree huggers and EPA don't like coal mining, oil drilling/gas fracking, and much less, "dusty/dirty/smelly", farming as well as logging so what are WE going to make things out of so our Kids and Grandkids can support themselves?

Ourselves and sell "Soylant Green"???

Help me out here!! Explain what I am missing??

pdq67

User avatar
Ken0069
Guru
Guru
Posts: 3873
Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:25 am
Location: Historic Appomattox County, Va
Contact:

Re: Social Security Benefits Increase 2% For 2018??

Post by Ken0069 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:09 pm

pdq67 wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:59 am
Help me out here!! Explain what I am missing??
pdq67
You forgot that we had about 100 years of this bullshit before we got to this point!
Anonymous wrote:You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
William Pitt, British Prime-Minister (1759-1806)


Big Boyz Toyz!

Global Warming Is a FRAUD!

pdq67
Guru
Guru
Posts: 7233
Joined: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:05 pm

Re: Social Security Benefits Increase 2% For 2018??

Post by pdq67 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:33 pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Isn't, "Anonymous", the group that uses the black and white, "Harlequin Mask"?

That some are trying to put in the same boat as Julian Assange by trying to, (as Archie would say), stifle both!

pdq67

User avatar
Ken0069
Guru
Guru
Posts: 3873
Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:25 am
Location: Historic Appomattox County, Va
Contact:

Re: Social Security Benefits Increase 2% For 2018??

Post by Ken0069 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:38 pm

pdq67 wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:33 pm
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Isn't, "Anonymous", the group that uses the black and white, "Harlequin Mask"?

pdq67

In the context of what I wrote NO. "Anonymous" there only means I don't know who originally wrote that.
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
William Pitt, British Prime-Minister (1759-1806)


Big Boyz Toyz!

Global Warming Is a FRAUD!

Post Reply