Terrorist attack in Las Vegas

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1989TransAm wrote:
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claims Padock was a low level gun runner and that is why he had to amount of guns
The numbers keep changing; last I saw was somewhere around fifty. That's not a particularly large number for a gunhead, not even counting the guys who do a lot of trading-up.
I know plenty of gun collections larger than Paddocks.
Me to, how many shooters in history do you know of that have smuggled in 10 times the guns needed to commit their offense?

If he is as smart as some claim then why risk getting caught before you get set up?

How many people have you ever known that made a living off of video poker let alone became a multi millionaire?

Why wear gloves if your going to shoot your self? They know who rented the room so your not going to escape?

As I asked in the first post I made here, can anyone show me 1 mussel flash from that room? There are at least 4 good videos looking straight at that part of the building for the majority of the shooting.

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1989TransAm wrote:
Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:31 pm
dwilliams wrote:
Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:43 pm
GARY C wrote:
Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:59 am
claims Padock was a low level gun runner and that is why he had to amount of guns
The numbers keep changing; last I saw was somewhere around fifty. That's not a particularly large number for a gunhead, not even counting the guys who do a lot of trading-up.
I know plenty of gun collections larger than Paddocks.
Here's the catch though. Everyone "they" talk to says they don't even know he had any guns. Gun guys usually know several other gun guys, at least around here. There's conflicting information about have many guns he had is his room, but, why so many? To do what he done I could understand 2 or 3. I've heard "23 guns in his room, as well as even larger numbers. Some reports say he was planning on getting away. Leaving 23 guns behind isn't much of a getaway plan.

If Padock was the only shooter I suspect he planned this for a long time, and it was planned as a suicide mission. I'm not a conspiracy minded person but I seriously doubt he acted alone, or at least someone else didn't know what he was planning.



FWIW, if I though anyone I know was planning something like this I'd turn them in the minute I found out, regardless of their motive, or target.
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GARY C wrote:
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Why wear gloves if your going to shoot your self? They know who rented the room so your not going to escape?
I still say he was told he had an escape route and maybe an identity change after the shooting. He was double crossed, freaked and shot himself.
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axegrinder wrote:
Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:44 pm
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Why wear gloves if your going to shoot your self? They know who rented the room so your not going to escape?
I still say he was told he had an escape route and maybe an identity change after the shooting. He was double crossed, freaked and shot himself.
Could be. This thing is not as straight forward as we once thought it might be.

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1989TransAm wrote:
Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:03 pm
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Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:21 pm

Why wear gloves if your going to shoot your self? They know who rented the room so your not going to escape?
I still say he was told he had an escape route and maybe an identity change after the shooting. He was double crossed, freaked and shot himself.
Could be. This thing is not as straight forward as we once thought it might be.
So far the only thing that seems to fit the evidence is a set up gun runner laundering money through the casinos used to be a fall guy for why we need to get rid of guns and increase the police state.

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Re: Terrorist attack in Las Vegas

Post by Fireonthemountain » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:56 pm

Las Vegas Shooting Eyewitness Planet Hollywood

The official story versus what actually happened seems to be about as straight, as a dog's hind leg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlL08CgBESc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbBEBzij1BE

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Post by David Redszus » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:58 am

We went to the "farm" to do a little shooting using improvised "bump stocks".

Using an AR10 and AK47, and a rubber band, we were able to replicate a very high rate of fire nearly approaching that of an automatic weapon. Very similar results were obtained by merely hooking a thumb through a belt loop while pulling the trigger.

Tomorrow, I'll try to measure the rate of fire, acoustical volume, and frequency.

Commercially available "bump stocks" may be legally banned but that will not stop the improvised conversion of a semi-auto into a near full auto.

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Post by n2xlr8n » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:04 pm

Ratu wrote:
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n2xlr8n writes, "few things piss those within the US off more than folks outside the US telling us we're wrong (even if we are wrong)."

Hold that thought. It is useful to consider how it upsets people in other climes whenever the US government commits atrocities upon them... Would it be wrong for them to comment?
Yes- it is useful to consider.

It is also useful to consider "those within the US" I referred to were average Joe citizens who long ago rejected responsibility for this government.
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Re: Terrorist attack in Las Vegas

Post by lefty o » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:22 pm

David Redszus wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:58 am
We went to the "farm" to do a little shooting using improvised "bump stocks".

Using an AR10 and AK47, and a rubber band, we were able to replicate a very high rate of fire nearly approaching that of an automatic weapon. Very similar results were obtained by merely hooking a thumb through a belt loop while pulling the trigger.

Tomorrow, I'll try to measure the rate of fire, acoustical volume, and frequency.

Commercially available "bump stocks" may be legally banned but that will not stop the improvised conversion of a semi-auto into a near full auto.
to the best of my knowledge rubber bands, and shoe strings have been deemed a no no from the atf. with some practice all you need is your finger . what we all know is that even if you made everything illegal, the criminals will still get and use them. the gvmnt could ban and destroy every bump stock that has ever been made, but the next clown that wants to do this can make one in his garage in 20 or 30 minutes. sadly you cannot convince the liberals who have their heads firmly up their rears that this is the truth.

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Re: Terrorist attack in Las Vegas

Post by woody b » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:57 am

As a conservative, and gun owner sometimes I lose focus of the "other" side. I had no doubt that the Vegas shooting would ignite new talks from the libs about gun control. Well, there's another side effect. The NRA advertising like heck, and begging for money from gun owners. I suppose that isn't much different than the race baiters fleecing money from the minorities they claim to represent. Kinda like the Stealers Wheel song. "Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with you".

The NRA is fear mongering for profit "They're going to take your guns away", just like Rev Sharpton and friends "They cops are going to kill you".
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Post by David Redszus » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:08 pm

The NRA is fear mongering for profit "They're going to take your guns away",
The NRA is a non-profit organization.

They use their donations to fend off moron politicians.

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Post by sanfordandson » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:26 pm

David Redszus wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:08 pm
The NRA is fear mongering for profit "They're going to take your guns away",
The NRA is a non-profit organization.

They use their donations to fend off moron politicians.
Ah yes...a "non profit" where the top brass rake in 7 figures.... =D>

Reminds me of that "non profit" church in Houston... #-o

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Re: Terrorist attack in Las Vegas

Post by GARY C » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:04 pm

sanfordandson wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:26 pm
David Redszus wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:08 pm
The NRA is fear mongering for profit "They're going to take your guns away",
The NRA is a non-profit organization.

They use their donations to fend off moron politicians.
Ah yes...a "non profit" where the top brass rake in 7 figures.... =D>

Reminds me of that "non profit" church in Houston... #-o
Reminds me of the Clinton foundation... If you are referring to the church I am sure you are all of his money comes from book sales and conferences where people choose to buy tickets to here his massage just like a musician... 0 comes from his church but you would have to actually research the facts to know that.

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Re: Terrorist attack in Las Vegas

Post by sanfordandson » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:18 pm

GARY C wrote:
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Reminds me of the Clinton foundation... If you are referring to the church I am sure you are all of his money comes from book sales and conferences where people choose to buy tickets to here his massage just like a musician... 0 comes from his church but you would have to actually research the facts to know that.
Using god for profit. You must be such a proud little follower! =D>

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Post by GARY C » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:22 pm

sanfordandson wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:18 pm
GARY C wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:04 pm
Reminds me of the Clinton foundation... If you are referring to the church I am sure you are all of his money comes from book sales and conferences where people choose to buy tickets to here his massage just like a musician... 0 comes from his church but you would have to actually research the facts to know that.
Using god for profit. You must be such a proud little follower! =D>
Typical non substance response...If you ever do anything with your life that helps at least one person other than your self then I will consider your "opinion"!

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