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Democrats' Newest Plan: Nationalized Health Care

Postby Ken0069 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:51 am

Democrats' Newest Plan: Nationalized Health Care
Ben Shapiro
Sep 13, 2017

On Monday, two seemingly unrelated headlines made the news. The first: America's national debt had finally reached $20 trillion. The second: New Jersey Democratic Sen. Cory Booker had finally come out in favor of Vermont independent Sen. Bernie Sanders' magical, mythical "Medicare-For-All" plan.

Of course, the two aren't unrelated at all. Once again, the Democratic Party is signing checks the country can't cash. Sanders' Medicare-For-All scheme would add some $13.8 trillion in spending over the first decade alone. Medicare already carries $58 trillion in unfunded liabilities, according to National Review. How unrealistic is Medicare-For-All? It's so unrealistic that the state of California has rejected a single-payer health care for being too expensive -- and California currently has a Democratic supermajority in the state assembly.

Yet Democrats continue to push further and further to the left, fearful of being outflanked. Booker isn't alone in his newfound embrace of socialized medicine. California's Sen. Kamala Harris has also endorsed Sanders' ridiculous plan. Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren will be co-sponsoring Sanders' plan, as will Democratic Sen. Jeff Merkley of Oregon.

Why? Because Democrats are deeply frightened of being outflanked by socialists. There's no benefit to moving to the center when your base sees no purpose in fiscal responsibility. So instead, Democrats race one another to the Soviet Union.

Meanwhile, Republicans cower in fear. Afraid of making the case for freedom, they compete with Democrats to see who can administer the giant state more "efficiently," as though efficiency were the key problem with statism. Thus, Republicans ran headlong from the possibility of repealing Obamacare, afraid that the American people would backlash against them for "taking away" some form of entitlement.

This is a mistake by Republicans. Yes, whoever touches entitlements pays a price. But that's not true if the alternative is a slide into total governmental control. That's the case Republicans made from the day Obamacare was initiated: that it was the first step toward socialized medicine. Now Democrats are showing that the Republican critique was true. Republicans ought to provide a binary choice here: Either slide into nationalized health care with Democrats or help us tear away the bulwarks of tyranny in health care in favor of freedom.

In exposing their own radicalism, the Democrats have provided Republicans with an opportunity to seize the middle with conservatism. Republicans need not bend before the media's insistence that health care is a government responsibility -- they can easily and honestly point at the Democratic frontrunners and identify the agenda. The question is whether Republicans have the courage to do so or whether they've bought the false narrative that President Trump won because he campaigned as a centrist. Trump won promising full Obamacare repeal. Republicans can do the same now and have the credibility of an awful alternative behind them.

All it takes is courage. Democratic cowardice has led the Party down the primrose path to full-on socialism. Now, Republicans must either make a stand against it or be complicit in bringing about that regime.

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Re: Democrats' Newest Plan: Nationalized Health Care

Postby engineczar » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:48 am

Democrats plan:

1 It's the law
2 It's working
3 It's complicated
4 Why won't the GOP help us fix the law we lied to pass?
5 Nevermind, we need single payer

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Re: Democrats' Newest Plan: Nationalized Health Care

Postby sanfordandson » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:58 am

thats not new its old. Sanders ran on it and failed. this will fail as well.

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Re: Democrats' Newest Plan: Nationalized Health Care

Postby pdq67 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:49 am

Can we do it this way??

You can opt into, "single payer", OR stay, "private payer", like we always had before THEY screwed everything up and then see which one survives financially for quality of service's rendered!

And, "single payer", needs to have a strict budget instead of our Gov. constantly funneling MONEY to it to make it work?

Oh, and btw, where do these, 'shit-heads", think the, "single payer", money is going to come from? "Unicorn Farts", and, "Pixy Dust", crap!!!

When the, "shit-heads', in Cali say something is, "TOO EXPENSIVE", it must be!!!

In other words, "spend until they ALMOST go broke because if they go BROKE, they will be out of a job!!"........

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Re: Democrats' Newest Plan: Nationalized Health Care

Postby mk e » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:34 pm

God forbid everyone should have the same healthcare plan as Ken ;)
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Re: Democrats' Newest Plan: Nationalized Health Care

Postby sanfordandson » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:54 pm

mk e wrote:God forbid everyone should have the same healthcare plan as Ken ;)


:lol: =D>

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Re: Democrats' Newest Plan: Nationalized Health Care

Postby pdq67 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:35 am

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And just what healthcare does Ken have?

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Re: Democrats' Newest Plan: Nationalized Health Care

Postby mk e » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:14 pm

pdq67 wrote:^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And just what healthcare does Ken have?

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The US single payer system know as medicare.
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Re: Democrats' Newest Plan: Nationalized Health Care

Postby pdq67 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:55 pm

mk e,

What's wrong with Medicare?

My wife and I are both on it as well as have UMR for supplemental.

All of our working careers, we paid into our employers so that our family could be covered through their plans! But the operative word here is, "WORK", to pay for it!

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Re: Democrats' Newest Plan: Nationalized Health Care

Postby mk e » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:21 pm

pdq67 wrote:mk e,

What's wrong with Medicare?

My wife and I are both on it as well as have UMR for supplemental.

All of our working careers, we paid into our employers so that our family could be covered through their plans! But the operative word here is, "WORK", to pay for it!

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Thete is nothing at all wrong with it, and that was my point. There are a few here, Ken in particular, that scream bloody murder when single payer systems are discussed while enjoying the benefits of the exact system they decry as unworkable.

The truth is Medicare runs with just 2% overhead while the private systems the rest of us have are in the 20% overhead range. Places the have single payer do struggle with wait times but supplemental insurance fixes that for anyone who with money. It does work for most of the world and seens to cith significantly less than we are currently paying. It's something to look at....sometimes doing the right thing for your wallet and doing the right thing for your conscious are the same tbing...this appears to be one of those times.
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