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Firearm Confiscation Laws

Post by Ken0069 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:49 am

ALERT: American Bar Association Asks States to Adopt Firearm Confiscation Laws
by AWR Hawkins
21 Aug 2017

From THIS article.
The American Bar Association is pushing state and local governments to adopt firearm confiscation laws similar to those in California.

During their 2017 Annual Meeting, the ABA House of Delegates adopted Resolution 118B, which “urges governments to enact statutes, rules, or regulations authorizing courts to issue gun violence restraining orders, including ex parte orders.”

The ex parte aspect of the resolution means the ABA is pushing confiscation orders that can be issued without any input from the gun owner.

Breitbart News reported that California Democrats secured “gun violence restraining orders” after the May 23, 2014, Santa Barbara attack. That attack was a carried out by an individual who passed a background check for his firearms, registered his guns with the state — per law — and only used standard capacity magazines (10 rounds or less).

In the wake of gun control’s failure to stop the attack, Democrats pushed more gun control via specialized orders whereby a judge issues a firearm confiscation order without the owner of the firearms having a voice in the process. The ABA is now pushing the same thing on a national basis.

The NRA is steadfast in its opposition to the orders because they violate due process. And according to the NRA-ILA, protection of due process is very important to the ABA, except in the case of firearm confiscation.

The NRA-ILA writes:

Over the years, the American Bar Association has defended the due process rights of some very unpopular groups, including, enemy combatants, terror suspects, and convicts on death row. The organization also advocates that stringent due process standards be applied to the disposition of positive rights, such as “universal access to healthcare,” and welfare benefits. Such advocacy might give some the false impression that the ABA holds a principled position on due process rights in general. When it comes to the due process rights of gun owners, however, the ABA has abandoned any pretense of principle and adopted the prevailing left-wing orthodoxy.

AWR Hawkins is the Second Amendment columnist for Breitbart News and host of Bullets with AWR Hawkins, a Breitbart News podcast. He is also the political analyst for Armed American Radio. Follow him on Twitter: @AWRHawkins. Reach him directly at awrhawkins@breitbart.com.
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Re: Firearm Confiscation Laws

Post by mk e » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:59 am

Good.

Criminals should not gave guns.
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Post by David Redszus » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:26 am

mk e wrote:Good.

Criminals should not gave guns.
Before or after they become criminals?

Criminals should not commit crimes, by law.

Criminals do not obtain guns through normal sales channels. The either steal them or buy them
on the street.

This is another example of completely unrealistic, utopian, nonsensical gun laws.

" the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

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Post by 1989TransAm » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:58 am

mk e has his own version of the Constitution.

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Post by engineczar » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:19 pm

1989TransAm wrote:mk e has his own version of the Constitution.
He still thinks that non-citizens have the same constitutional rights as citizens.

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Re: Firearm Confiscation Laws

Post by mk e » Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:03 pm

1989TransAm wrote:mk e has his own version of the Constitution.

No. Constitutionally taking a gun is no different than putting someone in jail. The right to freedom or to own a gun is absolute for law abiding citizens...not so much for criminals and a judge my dely you both and may other things. That is true today in all 50 states, it's really a nothing story.

The laws in question would require the judge to make a ruling, just like bail or minimum sentencing requirements.
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Post by David Redszus » Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:20 pm

mk e wrote:
1989TransAm wrote:mk e has his own version of the Constitution.

No. Constitutionally taking a gun is no different than putting someone in jail. The right to freedom or to own a gun is absolute for law abiding citizens...not so much for criminals and a judge my dely you both and may other things. That is true today in all 50 states, it's really a nothing story.

The laws in question would require the judge to make a ruling, just like bail or minimum sentencing requirements.
The point is that laws have NO effect on criminals. Laws are for the law abiding, not for law breakers.

Its simply another example of silly, feel-good legislation that has no substance.

But the liberal socialists like it. They use baseball bats, board with nails and bottles of acid.

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Re: Firearm Confiscation Laws

Post by exhaustgases » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:56 am

Yawn :roll: And just remember WHO the take something away from you party is. Today its your gun, tomorrow its your car, the next day its your dog, the next day its your home and land, the next day its your clothes, the next day its your freedom, the next day its your ?.

This is the agenda of the Marxist socialist communist demo c rat climate change religion party. Just look at the thugs they have to accomplish their agendas. They are running rampant in the streets nowadays.
Its all so in your face. How many good demo c rats will wake up? Is there such a thing?

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Re: Firearm Confiscation Laws

Post by pdq67 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:25 am

Just how many citizens have all the dictators through the years KILLED??

Think about it for a bit..

Do you want to be next?

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Re: Firearm Confiscation Laws

Post by mk e » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:56 am

pdq67 wrote:Just how many citizens have all the dictators through the years KILLED??

Think about it for a bit..

Do you want to be next?

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Not relavent.

As I said, judges already have the authority to confiscate guns from defendants and tbey often do. This is a law saying that us best practice when it's a violent crime they are accused of.....pretty simple.
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Re: Firearm Confiscation Laws

Post by exhaustgases » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:38 pm

Funny mk e, what about the ones that are exempt?

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Re: Firearm Confiscation Laws

Post by mk e » Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:10 pm

exhaustgases wrote:Funny mk e, what about the ones that are exempt?
What do you mean exempt?

The point of min sentence laws is to be sure there is no favoritism, the judge has no choice but to apply a min punishment.
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Post by David Redszus » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:55 pm


As I said, judges already have the authority to confiscate guns from defendants and tbey often do.
Confiscation of property without a conviction is being challenged in the court system. Seems a bit unconstitutional; but what so the socialists care about the constitution?

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Re: Firearm Confiscation Laws

Post by exhaustgases » Tue Aug 29, 2017 2:32 am

Except for something like this "they" are exempt from the laws you mention.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK-v6cCPyFo

And here is a case of exemption.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et8J8sUNa3c

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