Charlottesville, Va, May Not Be What It Seems To Be!

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Re: Charlottesville, Va, May Not Be What It Seems To Be!

Post by mk e » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:40 pm

So you're saying he was so smart he knew all he needed to do was the crazy right and they would do the rest to help the left?

Well played it true wouldn't you say?
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Post by sanfordandson » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:30 pm

Some of the white supremacists finest right here...

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Post by Ken0069 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:09 pm

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And why exactly were Nazis out protesting the removal of a confederate statue?
The rally was against historical revisionism, not against some statue. The Nazi flag was incidental and foolish.
Confederate and nazi flags inter mixed, sometimes one guy holding both?
You're right, Nazi and Confederate flags have nothing in common; not even from the same era or political systems.

The nazi flag is a symbol of socialism gone amuck, as it always does. The nazis were not right wingers, they were lefties and today would be called Democraps. Their mission was to restore a nation and bring prosperity to its citizens by means of revised social order. "Ve know vat ist best vor you, you will obey." Sound familiar?

The Confederate flag is a symbol of states rights which was repressed by Lincoln. Eleven states declared their right to operate as their citizens preferred and without breaking US laws. Radical Republican activists demanded that Lincoln interfere with their right to govern as they saw fit. Lincoln caused the slaughter of almost 600,000 American citizens and forced hundreds of thousand more into poverty. And for what, you ask?

After the war, the overwhelming majority of freed slaves returned to their original plantations, worked under even lesser condition, and their descendants have yet to fully assimilate into American society.

The slave holding south was a Democratic Party stronghold, not Republican. The KKK was supported by Democraps including President Woodrow Wilson. Almost all Presidents up until the Civil War owned slaves since it was perfectly legal.

So perhaps we can say that both the Nazi flag and later the Confederate flag were symbols of liberal socialism at work. Today both symbols will piss somebody off. Better pissed off than pissed on.
Good one David, especially the part about better pissed off than pissed on. We use that saying here in Virginia also so I guess it's kinda like a "universal" saying around the country.
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Post by pdq67 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:00 pm

About Lincoln, imho, JWB wasn't early enough to stop the carnage caused by Lincoln, but Lincoln did pay the ultimate price for what he did!

Maybe we need to TODAY hold assholes responsible ultimately for screwing the rest of us??

And AGAIN, where did that $8 to $9,000,000,000,000 go to because I never got any of it that I know of OR voted for???

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Re: Charlottesville, Va, May Not Be What It Seems To Be!

Post by 1989TransAm » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:50 pm

Looks like the Virginia Governor lied about the police being outgunned. Virginia State Police tell a different story.

"Virginia State Police Say They Were Not Outgunned in Charlottesville Riot Despite McAuliffe Claim
VSP defend their role in policing white supremacists and Antifa during violence !"


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Post by exhaustgases » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:24 am

1989TransAm wrote:Looks like the Virginia Governor lied about the police being outgunned. Virginia State Police tell a different story.

"Virginia State Police Say They Were Not Outgunned in Charlottesville Riot Despite McAuliffe Claim
VSP defend their role in policing white supremacists and Antifa during violence !"


http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... ffe-claim/
Its always the orders to stand down so the Marxist thugs can come in and cause the crap and make the other side look like crap. And how dare Trump say the Leftist Marxists are bad, how dare him according to the Marxist socialist communist demo n rat climate change religionist news media. And I'm not siding with any side, ITS JUST SIMPLE LOGIC and truth, both are most hated by the evil that wants its control back.

Just look at the massive mind control with this Virginia crap. What propaganda news media exists now. Absolutely nothing they say can be believed now its really scary.

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Re: Charlottesville, Va, May Not Be What It Seems To Be!

Post by pdq67 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:17 am

I have been thinking about this and want to say that if you are f** up, you are F** up no matter what the Constitution and Bill of Right's says.

Due to Lawyers wanting more and more MONEY, we have gotten away from dealing with people that are F** up and need to get back to using common sense to deal with them.

You break a LAW, you have to pay the consequences for doing so!

It also look's like President Trump is SLOWLY picking up on this too!

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Post by David Redszus » Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:50 pm

We need demonstration duty dogs who are trained to attack anyone who initiates violence at a rally or march.
They would be immune to political sides.

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Post by sanfordandson » Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:54 pm

David Redszus wrote:We need demonstration duty dogs who are trained to attack anyone who initiates violence at a rally or march.
They would be immune to political sides.
Sounds like something they would do in China...or North Korea.

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Post by Ken0069 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:02 pm


NY Times Reporter Admits Antifa Protesters In Charlottesville Were 'Hate-Filled' And Violent Before Left Forces Her To Backtrack

Sheryl Gay Stolberg wrote:I saw club-wielding 'antifa' beating white nationalists being led out of the park."

ByJames Barrett
New York Times reporter Sheryl Gay Stolberg made the mistake of admitting that along with the abhorrent, violent, white supremacists who terrorized Charlottesville over the weekend, many Antifa protesters were also enacting "hate-filled" violence, as they've done in several other cities in recent months. For noting that the "hard left seemed as hate-filled as the alt-right" — citing "club-wielding 'antifa' beating white nationalists being led out of the park" — Stolberg was hammered online, even after repenting and issuing a correction that depicted the violent left in more heroic terms.

"A few wrap-it-up thoughts from Charlottesville: 1. Striking how many of the white nationalists were young people, almost entirely men," she wrote in a series of tweets Sunday. "2. The hard left seemed as hate-filled as alt-right. I saw club-wielding 'antifa' beating white nationalists being led out of the park[.] 3. Among my unanswered questions: police response. Why did things get out of hand so quickly? Could violence have been prevented?"

See the Twitter posts that back this up HERE.
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Re: Charlottesville, Va, May Not Be What It Seems To Be!

Post by paulzig » Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:14 pm

If you condemn a white supremacist group and then in the same breath you condemn antifa or BLM you get called a racist and people will say you werent harsh enough on the white group.

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Post by Ken0069 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:51 pm

Oh My: Leftist Southern Poverty Law Center Mentions Charlottesville White Supremacist Organizer as Former Occupy Wall Street, Obama Supporter

From THIS article.
According to the leftist Southern Poverty Law Center [SPLC], one of the white supremacist organizers of Saturday's rally in Charlottesville is a former Occupy Wall Street activist and supporter of Barack Obama.

Jason Kessler is listed with SPLC as an "extremist." Here's an excerpt from the information about Kessler published on their website:

Relying on familiar tropes of “white genocide” and “demographic displacement,” white nationalist blogger Jason Kessler seeks notoriety with his "Unite the Right" march in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Rumors abound on white nationalist forums that Kessler’s ideological pedigree before 2016 was less than pure and seem to point to involvement in the Occupy movement and past support for President Obama.

At one recent speech in favor of Charlottesville’s status as a sanctuary city, Kessler live-streamed himself as an attendee questioned him and apologized for an undisclosed spat during Kessler’s apparent involvement with Occupy. Kessler appeared visibly perturbed by the woman’s presence and reminders of their past association.

Those speaking at the Charlottesville “Unite the Right” event include Richard Spencer, who spoke at the first Charlottesville rally, Mike Enoch of The Right Stuff, Matthew Heimbach of the white nationalist Traditionalist Workers Party, Augustus Invictus, a pagan neo-fascist who has pledged to bring about a second Civil War, and Michael Hill of the League of the South.


Despite overwhelming condemnation from Republicans and conservatives of white nationalism and what happened in Charlottesville, the left and their friends in the media have tried to pin the weekend's violence on the mainstream right. It turns out, they should be looking further left.
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Re: Charlottesville, Va, May Not Be What It Seems To Be!

Post by pdq67 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:00 pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"New York Times reporter Sheryl Gay Stolberg made the mistake of admitting that along with the abhorrent, violent, white supremacists who terrorized Charlottesville over the weekend, many Antifa protesters were also enacting "hate-filled" violence, as they've done in several other cities in recent months. For noting that the "hard left seemed as hate-filled as the alt-right" — citing "club-wielding 'antifa' beating white nationalists being led out of the park" — Stolberg was hammered online, even after repenting and issuing a correction that depicted the violent left in more heroic terms.

"A few wrap-it-up thoughts from Charlottesville: 1. Striking how many of the white nationalists were young people, almost entirely men," she wrote in a series of tweets Sunday. "2. The hard left seemed as hate-filled as alt-right. I saw club-wielding 'antifa' beating white nationalists being led out of the park[.] 3. Among my unanswered questions: police response. Why did things get out of hand so quickly? Could violence have been prevented?""

We ever find out WHO is PAYING for these, "PROTESTING", people to create all this chaos??

Because that's who needs to be legally addressed here!

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Re: Charlottesville, Va, May Not Be What It Seems To Be!

Post by David Redszus » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:37 pm

sanfordandson wrote:
David Redszus wrote:We need demonstration duty dogs who are trained to attack anyone who initiates violence at a rally or march.
They would be immune to political sides.
Sounds like something they would do in China...or North Korea.
On second thought, it sounds like something that is needed on this forum.
Smart dogs trained to attack very stupid liberal, socialist, fascist posters.

Verbally speaking only, of course.

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Re: Charlottesville, Va, May Not Be What It Seems To Be!

Post by mk e » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:43 pm

A motion is coming to on the house in the next proforma session to censure Rump over his race comments:
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