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Re: Fukushima

Post by paulzig » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:05 pm

statsystems wrote:
Just read part of the abc link you posted. I'm smart enough to know, no matter what deranged evolutionist say, the flageller motor can't be a product of evolution, using evolutions own definitions.

You can't say that the strong overcome the weak and then look at what the FM is and does and think it could be part of an evolutionary process.

Sort of like the Big Bang theory. It's like saying there was a an explosion in a junk yard and a complete functioning Boeing 737 came as a result.

I don't have enough blind faith to believe scientists who have been wrong, or just flat out lied. Don't forget...cigarettes were called cancer sticks in the 18th century, but educated doctors and scientists clear into the 1960's said smoking was good for you. If you want to believe ignorant fools like that, go ahead.
Its not about strong or weak its about traits that are more suitable for survival at the time, or adapted to thrive in their environment.

The boeing 737 in a junkyard is another typical response, no a 737 will never come out of an explosion because the parts of the aircraft do not have a natural affinity towards each other and nor do planes reproduce, so comparing it to evolution is ridiculous. Next up the watch self assembling, the bridges, or buildings...

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Re: Fukushima

Post by sanfordandson » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:07 pm

paulzig wrote:
Its not about strong or weak its about traits that are more suitable for survival at the time, or adapted to thrive in their environment.

The boeing 737 in a junkyard is another typical response, no a 737 will never come out of an explosion because the parts of the aircraft do not have a natural affinity towards each other and nor do planes reproduce, so comparing it to evolution is ridiculous. Next up the watch self assembling, the bridges, or buildings...

Excellent response. =D>

Sometimes you just cant fix stupid.

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Re: Fukushima

Post by statsystems » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:09 pm

paulzig wrote:
statsystems wrote:
Just read part of the abc link you posted. I'm smart enough to know, no matter what deranged evolutionist say, the flageller motor can't be a product of evolution, using evolutions own definitions.

You can't say that the strong overcome the weak and then look at what the FM is and does and think it could be part of an evolutionary process.

Sort of like the Big Bang theory. It's like saying there was a an explosion in a junk yard and a complete functioning Boeing 737 came as a result.

I don't have enough blind faith to believe scientists who have been wrong, or just flat out lied. Don't forget...cigarettes were called cancer sticks in the 18th century, but educated doctors and scientists clear into the 1960's said smoking was good for you. If you want to believe ignorant fools like that, go ahead.
Its not about strong or weak its about traits that are more suitable for survival at the time, or adapted to thrive in their environment.

The boeing 737 in a junkyard is another typical response, no a 737 will never come out of an explosion because the parts of the aircraft do not have a natural affinity towards each other and nor do planes reproduce, so comparing it to evolution is ridiculous. Next up the watch self assembling, the bridges, or buildings...

I get what you are saying about strong or weak. It's an adaptive thing.

Here is the problem. What happens when something is not needed at the time, and the later is needed. No matter how you slice it, evolution is reductive, regressive. You never go forward by going backwards.

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Re: Fukushima

Post by paulzig » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:12 pm

sanfordandson wrote:
paulzig wrote:
Its not about strong or weak its about traits that are more suitable for survival at the time, or adapted to thrive in their environment.

The boeing 737 in a junkyard is another typical response, no a 737 will never come out of an explosion because the parts of the aircraft do not have a natural affinity towards each other and nor do planes reproduce, so comparing it to evolution is ridiculous. Next up the watch self assembling, the bridges, or buildings...

Excellent response. =D>

Sometimes you just cant fix stupid.
People hate evolution so much :)

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Re: Fukushima

Post by paulzig » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:35 pm

statsystems wrote:
Here is the problem. What happens when something is not needed at the time, and the later is needed. No matter how you slice it, evolution is reductive, regressive. You never go forward by going backwards.
Evolution doesnt think about the future, its a mechanism not a life coach or psychic it cant predict the future. If an organism thrived in certain environment and then later, the conditions change that organism will be f-cked. Then another organism will thrive.

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Re: Fukushima

Post by statsystems » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:23 pm

paulzig wrote:
statsystems wrote:
Here is the problem. What happens when something is not needed at the time, and the later is needed. No matter how you slice it, evolution is reductive, regressive. You never go forward by going backwards.
Evolution doesnt think about the future, its a mechanism not a life coach or psychic it cant predict the future. If an organism thrived in certain environment and then later, the conditions change that organism will be f-cked. Then another organism will thrive.
If it was that simple, you'd be correct. But we're not talking about organisms as a whole. We are talking about cell level biology and smaller.

You can't have reverse evolution. It doesn't work.

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Re: Fukushima

Post by RevTheory » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:33 pm

statsystems wrote:
paulzig wrote:
statsystems wrote:
Here is the problem. What happens when something is not needed at the time, and the later is needed. No matter how you slice it, evolution is reductive, regressive. You never go forward by going backwards.
Evolution doesnt think about the future, its a mechanism not a life coach or psychic it cant predict the future. If an organism thrived in certain environment and then later, the conditions change that organism will be f-cked. Then another organism will thrive.
If it was that simple, you'd be correct. But we're not talking about organisms as a whole. We are talking about cell level biology and smaller.

You can't have reverse evolution. It doesn't work.
Based on some of sanford's posts, I may have to disagree with you :mrgreen:

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Re: Fukushima

Post by statsystems » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:42 pm

RevTheory wrote:
statsystems wrote:
paulzig wrote:
Evolution doesnt think about the future, its a mechanism not a life coach or psychic it cant predict the future. If an organism thrived in certain environment and then later, the conditions change that organism will be f-cked. Then another organism will thrive.
If it was that simple, you'd be correct. But we're not talking about organisms as a whole. We are talking about cell level biology and smaller.

You can't have reverse evolution. It doesn't work.
Based on some of sanford's posts, I may have to disagree with you :mrgreen:

You got me on that one!!!!! Lol

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Re: Fukushima

Post by Firedome8 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:02 am

Anyone beleve in talking donkeys?
Is the kgv a modern interpretation?
The sun stood still so as to finish killing!
Human sacrifice! !
ware is David's thrown?
Etc. Etc.......

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Re: Fukushima

Post by statsystems » Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:21 am

Firedome8 wrote:Anyone beleve in talking donkeys?
Is the kgv a modern interpretation?
The sun stood still so as to finish killing!
Human sacrifice! !
ware is David's thrown?
Etc. Etc.......
It's throne.
It's KJV and it's considered classic literature, if you know what that is.
Just because it's recorded history doesn't mean God condoned it. Do we record history that way today?

That's your problem. You can't comprehend what your read, force it out of context and then add your sanctimonious editorial to it.

Here's a helpful hint. God doesn't need your help.

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Re: Fukushima

Post by paulzig » Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:34 am

statsystems wrote:
If it was that simple, you'd be correct. But we're not talking about organisms as a whole. We are talking about cell level biology and smaller.

You can't have reverse evolution. It doesn't work.
Sort of ruined the Fukushima thread :)

Anyway is there anything specific in terms of cell level biology that you take issue with that I could do further research on? The flagellum has proteins in it which arent necessary to make it work, so I fail to see any design.

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Re: Fukushima

Post by exhaustgases » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:32 am

So can things just jump together? And since it looks like some here believe that, how come with such advanced abilities man has not created life? He has manipulated it but not created it. So what is more advanced a super computer or a human brain? If making things is so easy how come a chimp can't put together a computer and program it? A computer program is nothing compared to DNA programming and building an IC integrated circuit is nothing compared to building an Atom from scratch and having the ability to see as deep as you desire into the structure of its components (the atom). To make and fully under stand something you need to see and understand all aspects of it. Man can guess with mathematics and various tests, but he can not see deeply into atomic component structure. And since an atom is ultimately energy, who did it come from and how did it get put there?
In the book you call a fairly tail, it says things like "all things are possible" it even says that man can do anything he imagines to do (collectively).

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Re: Fukushima

Post by Firedome8 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:52 am

paulzig wrote:
statsystems wrote:
Just read part of the abc link you posted. I'm smart enough to know, no matter what deranged evolutionist say, the flageller motor can't be a product of evolution, using evolutions own definitions.

You can't say that the strong overcome the weak and then look at what the FM is and does and think it could be part of an evolutionary process.

Sort of like the Big Bang theory. It's like saying there was a an explosion in a junk yard and a complete functioning Boeing 737 came as a result.

I don't have enough blind faith to believe scientists who have been wrong, or just flat out lied. Don't forget...cigarettes were called cancer sticks in the 18th century, but educated doctors and scientists clear into the 1960's said smoking was good for you. If you want to believe ignorant fools like that, go ahead.
Its not about strong or weak its about traits that are more suitable for survival at the time, or adapted to thrive in their environment.

The boeing 737 in a junkyard is another typical response, no a 737 will never come out of an explosion because the parts of the aircraft do not have a natural affinity towards each other and nor do planes reproduce, so comparing it to evolution is ridiculous. Next up the watch self assembling, the bridges, or buildings...
I am waiting as well to hear the walking along the beach and come upon a watch story.

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Re: Fukushima

Post by Firedome8 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:54 am

exhaustgases wrote:So can things just jump together? And since it looks like some here believe that, how come with such advanced abilities man has not created life? He has manipulated it but not created it. So what is more advanced a super computer or a human brain? If making things is so easy how come a chimp can't put together a computer and program it? A computer program is nothing compared to DNA programming and building an IC integrated circuit is nothing compared to building an Atom from scratch and having the ability to see as deep as you desire into the structure of its components (the atom). To make and fully under stand something you need to see and understand all aspects of it. Man can guess with mathematics and various tests, but he can not see deeply into atomic component structure. And since an atom is ultimately energy, who did it come from and how did it get put there?
In the book you call a fairly tail, it says things like "all things are possible" it even says that man can do anything he imagines to do (collectively).
Because we didn't know something does not mean God did it. Still waiting on your example of nothing.

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Re: Fukushima

Post by Firedome8 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:08 am

statsystems wrote:
Firedome8 wrote:Anyone beleve in talking donkeys?
Is the kgv a modern interpretation?
The sun stood still so as to finish killing!
Human sacrifice! !
ware is David's thrown?
Etc. Etc.......
It's throne.
It's KJV and it's considered classic literature, if you know what that is.
Just because it's recorded history doesn't mean God condoned it. Do we record history that way today?

That's your problem. You can't comprehend what your read, force it out of context and then add your sanctimonious editorial to it.

Here's a helpful hint. God doesn't need your help.
Ah yes "classic literature " so ware is David's throne,,,talking donkeys????? If the Sun stopped in the sky would not that mean the earth stood still? How about dividing up the booty and kill um all but save the virgins for yourselves, oh do not forget gods portion!!
Bronze age book condoning murder rape pillage slavery and it's ok because our God (yahwa ) said its ok. And you think it is based on reality,,,,Wow your world view Is so f up.

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