Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by David Redszus » Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:09 pm

Like saying slavery is self correcting
Slavery was and is self correcting. As the need for a farm labor work force diminished, so did the need for slavery. Agricultural mechanization did more to eliminate the need for slavery than did political actions and wars. Not merely in the US, but also around the world.
or maybe every system self corrects eventually with its own demise as power and wealth reach critical mass in the hands of a few?
Every system will self correct if allowed to do so. Socialism does not allow self correction and does allow power to accumulate in the hands of a few. The difference is whether those few are those who created the wealth or those political rascals who simply took it away from those who did the real work. Socialism has always equated to political rascals, even more so today.
"Takes money to make money", and "the more money you have the more money you make", ring a bell?
Complete nonsense. Little companies make little mistakes, big companies make big mistakes, governments make massive mistakes.

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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by j-c-c » Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:41 pm

David Redszus wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:09 pm
Like saying slavery is self correcting
Slavery was and is self correcting. As the need for a farm labor work force diminished, so did the need for slavery. Agricultural mechanization did more to eliminate the need for slavery than did political actions and wars. Not merely in the US, but also around the world.
or maybe every system self corrects eventually with its own demise as power and wealth reach critical mass in the hands of a few?
Every system will self correct if allowed to do so. Socialism does not allow self correction and does allow power to accumulate in the hands of a few. The difference is whether those few are those who created the wealth or those political rascals who simply took it away from those who did the real work. Socialism has always equated to political rascals, even more so today.
"Takes money to make money", and "the more money you have the more money you make", ring a bell?
Complete nonsense. Little companies make little mistakes, big companies make big mistakes, governments make massive mistakes.
Since you didn't qualify the time frame for "self correction", I have agree, in a few billion years the earth will "self Correct", along with all its political systems. :roll:

Your "complete nonsense" comment is completely out of touch with reality. The examples of the advantages of wealth are numerous. start with the judicial system.

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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by David Redszus » Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:53 pm

Since you didn't qualify the time frame for "self correction", I have agree, in a few billion years the earth will "self Correct", along with all its political systems. :roll:
History books are filled with examples of "self correction"; read a few. Your earthly time scale is wrong; humans did not exist a few billion years ago.
Your "complete nonsense" comment is completely out of touch with reality. The examples of the advantages of wealth are numerous. start with the judicial system.
I welcome an example of your numerous examples. Wealthy European Royals have often lost their heads.
Economic texts are filled with examples; read a few.

Your vague, pointless responses do not clarify nor explain your positions.

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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by j-c-c » Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:03 pm

David Redszus wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:53 pm
Since you didn't qualify the time frame for "self correction", I have agree, in a few billion years the earth will "self Correct", along with all its political systems. :roll:
History books are filled with examples of "self correction"; read a few. Your earthly time scale is wrong; humans did not exist a few billion years ago.
Your "complete nonsense" comment is completely out of touch with reality. The examples of the advantages of wealth are numerous. start with the judicial system.
I welcome an example of your numerous examples. Wealthy European Royals have often lost their heads.
Economic texts are filled with examples; read a few.

Your vague, pointless responses do not clarify nor explain your positions.
So you accept my example above or discount it, without explanation, I am not clear?
I have no idea what wealthy royals losing their heads centuries ago has to do with capitalism/socialism self correction.
You appear to be making a circle joint argument.

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Post by David Redszus » Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:06 pm

j-c-c wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:03 pm
David Redszus wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:53 pm
Since you didn't qualify the time frame for "self correction", I have agree, in a few billion years the earth will "self Correct", along with all its political systems. :roll:
History books are filled with examples of "self correction"; read a few. Your earthly time scale is wrong; humans did not exist a few billion years ago.
Your "complete nonsense" comment is completely out of touch with reality. The examples of the advantages of wealth are numerous. start with the judicial system.
I welcome an example of your numerous examples. Wealthy European Royals have often lost their heads.
Economic texts are filled with examples; read a few.

Your vague, pointless responses do not clarify nor explain your positions.
So you accept my example above or discount it, without explanation, I am not clear?
I have no idea what wealthy royals losing their heads centuries ago has to do with capitalism/socialism self correction.
You appear to be making a circle joint argument.
You cite no example. Proof by assertion is worthless. Please be clear if you can.

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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by j-c-c » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:03 pm

David Redszus wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:06 pm
j-c-c wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:03 pm
David Redszus wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:53 pm
History books are filled with examples of "self correction"; read a few. Your earthly time scale is wrong; humans did not exist a few billion years ago.


I welcome an example of your numerous examples. Wealthy European Royals have often lost their heads.
Economic texts are filled with examples; read a few.

Your vague, pointless responses do not clarify nor explain your positions.
So you accept my example above or discount it, without explanation, I am not clear?
I have no idea what wealthy royals losing their heads centuries ago has to do with capitalism/socialism self correction.
You appear to be making a circle joint argument.
You cite no example. Proof by assertion is worthless. Please be clear if you can.
Seriously? I was thinking we were both wordily enough to just stipulate that our legal system almost always favors a rich defendant's prevailing over one less so.
But if you need proof of that to be clear, and worthy, you aren't worth my effort beyond my assertion.

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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by Firedome8 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 9:47 am

Ken0069 wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:45 am
I think I could support this if there are MULTIPLE NATIONS INVOLVED WITH TROOPS ON THE GROUND THERE!! This piece of shit needs to go!!!

Is Trump Eyeing A Coup In Venezuela?
Sep 27, 2018
The Trump administration and some others in the U.S. government have sent some not-so-subtle hints lately that they are open to a military invasion of Venezuela to oust President Nicolas Maduro.

“It’s a regime that frankly could be toppled very quickly by the military, if the military decides to do that,” President Trump told reporters on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly on Tuesday.

The words seem to offer some encouragement for a coup, which may not come as a surprise because the New York Times published an investigation in early September that found that the Trump administration met secretly with Venezuelan military officers over the last year to discuss an overthrow of Maduro.

Venezuela is in tatters and there have been previous signs that Maduro’s grip is tenuous, including the renegade helicopter pilot earlier this year and the bizarre scene in which drones exploded during a military parade in August near Maduro.

In other words, the threat of a coup has been rising for some time.

But more recently, there have been louder murmurings in Washington and beyond. Bloomberg noted that Fernando Cutz, a former member of the National Security Council, said that a multilateral military invasion of Venezuela might be the best solution. Also, some prominent Venezuelan dissidents and former officials have supported regime change. Florida Senator Marco Rubio said there is a “very strong argument” for such a move. Then there were Trump’s comments in New York at the UN. (more here)
Was the leader elected by the citizens? Ya get wtf u ask for.
I am sure it will "self correct".

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Post by Ken0069 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:45 pm

Firedome8 wrote:
Sun Sep 30, 2018 9:47 am
Ken0069 wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:45 am
I think I could support this if there are MULTIPLE NATIONS INVOLVED WITH TROOPS ON THE GROUND THERE!! This piece of shit needs to go!!!

Is Trump Eyeing A Coup In Venezuela?
Sep 27, 2018
The Trump administration and some others in the U.S. government have sent some not-so-subtle hints lately that they are open to a military invasion of Venezuela to oust President Nicolas Maduro.

“It’s a regime that frankly could be toppled very quickly by the military, if the military decides to do that,” President Trump told reporters on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly on Tuesday.

The words seem to offer some encouragement for a coup, which may not come as a surprise because the New York Times published an investigation in early September that found that the Trump administration met secretly with Venezuelan military officers over the last year to discuss an overthrow of Maduro.

Venezuela is in tatters and there have been previous signs that Maduro’s grip is tenuous, including the renegade helicopter pilot earlier this year and the bizarre scene in which drones exploded during a military parade in August near Maduro.

In other words, the threat of a coup has been rising for some time.

But more recently, there have been louder murmurings in Washington and beyond. Bloomberg noted that Fernando Cutz, a former member of the National Security Council, said that a multilateral military invasion of Venezuela might be the best solution. Also, some prominent Venezuelan dissidents and former officials have supported regime change. Florida Senator Marco Rubio said there is a “very strong argument” for such a move. Then there were Trump’s comments in New York at the UN. (more here)
Was the leader elected by the citizens? Ya get wtf u ask for.
I am sure it will "self correct".
That response just serves to reinforce the fact that you are a f...ing M0R0N with your head up your ass. Not only can you not write a coherent sentence that's not a copy and paste, but it's obvious that you can't read either!!

Just for shits and giggles, do a google search for "Maduro election fraud in Venezuela", (that is, IF you can read), and see if you can grasp exactly what's gone on down there over the past few years under "The Bus Driver" president!! Hell, you might even get an article from one of your favorite lamestream media outlets that you quote ad nauseam!! :roll:
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Post by Firedome8 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:10 pm

Ken0069 wrote:
Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:45 pm
Firedome8 wrote:
Sun Sep 30, 2018 9:47 am
Ken0069 wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:45 am
I think I could support this if there are MULTIPLE NATIONS INVOLVED WITH TROOPS ON THE GROUND THERE!! This piece of shit needs to go!!!

Is Trump Eyeing A Coup In Venezuela?
Sep 27, 2018

Was the leader elected by the citizens? Ya get wtf u ask for.
I am sure it will "self correct".
That response just serves to reinforce the fact that you are a f...ing M0R0N with your head up your ass. Not only can you not write a coherent sentence that's not a copy and paste, but it's obvious that you can't read either!!

Just for shits and giggles, do a google search for "Maduro election fraud in Venezuela", (that is, IF you can read), and see if you can grasp exactly what's gone on down there over the past few years under "The Bus Driver" president!! Hell, you might even get an article from one of your favorite lamestream media outlets that you quote ad nauseam!! :roll:
Excuse me oh great one I forgot you have all the facts.. Does election fraud only happen in a socialist society? Are all socialist countries mired in fraud?

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Post by Ken0069 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:39 pm

Famous last words!! Hey Ya'll, watch this................................... :roll:

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Post by Firedome8 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:46 am

Ken0069 wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:39 pm
Famous last words!! Hey Ya'll, watch this................................... :roll:

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You cashed your Social security check a$$ hole.

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Post by Ken0069 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:29 pm

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"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
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Post by Firedome8 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:52 pm

Haha told u stupid old man...f socialist m f.

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Post by 86_regal » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:20 pm

David Redszus wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:09 pm
Like saying slavery is self correcting
Slavery was and is self correcting. As the need for a farm labor work force diminished, so did the need for slavery. Agricultural mechanization did more to eliminate the need for slavery than did political actions and wars. Not merely in the US, but also around the world.
or maybe every system self corrects eventually with its own demise as power and wealth reach critical mass in the hands of a few?
Every system will self correct if allowed to do so. Socialism does not allow self correction and does allow power to accumulate in the hands of a few. The difference is whether those few are those who created the wealth or those political rascals who simply took it away from those who did the real work. Socialism has always equated to political rascals, even more so today.
"Takes money to make money", and "the more money you have the more money you make", ring a bell?
Complete nonsense. Little companies make little mistakes, big companies make big mistakes, governments make massive mistakes.
Excellent post David...

In particular, I would like to add that if it were true it "takes money to make money", I would then ask why or "how" 80% of American millionaires are FIRST Generation millionaires...

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Post by Firedome8 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:41 pm

86_regal wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:20 pm
David Redszus wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:09 pm
Like saying slavery is self correcting
Slavery was and is self correcting. As the need for a farm labor work force diminished, so did the need for slavery. Agricultural mechanization did more to eliminate the need for slavery than did political actions and wars. Not merely in the US, but also around the world.
or maybe every system self corrects eventually with its own demise as power and wealth reach critical mass in the hands of a few?
Every system will self correct if allowed to do so. Socialism does not allow self correction and does allow power to accumulate in the hands of a few. The difference is whether those few are those who created the wealth or those political rascals who simply took it away from those who did the real work. Socialism has always equated to political rascals, even more so today.
"Takes money to make money", and "the more money you have the more money you make", ring a bell?
Complete nonsense. Little companies make little mistakes, big companies make big mistakes, governments make massive mistakes.
Excellent post David...

In particular, I would like to add that if it were true it "takes money to make money", I would then ask why or "how" 80% of American millionaires are FIRST Generation millionaires...

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