Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by RevTheory » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:49 pm

Perhaps if you were conscious of your spelling and wrote a well thought-out opinion, rather than the cut/paste, never Trump no matter what shit you post, we wouldn't giggle at you quite as much.

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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by Firedome8 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:39 pm

RevTheory wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:49 pm
Perhaps if you were conscious of your spelling and wrote a well thought-out opinion, rather than the cut/paste, never Trump no matter what shit you post, we wouldn't giggle at you quite as much.
Perhaps if your opinions were more based on reality you would not appear to be a clueless hack. So how about your belief that leaders are appointed by Yahawah. You care to debate that...LOL....I bet not..
You would think a true believer would defend such an attack on their belief system ??? But no you are to ignorant of the subject to mount any defence of your delusions.

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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by RevTheory » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:14 pm

And there you went after a person's beliefs again when none of your arguments actually stood up.

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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by Firedome8 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:29 pm

RevTheory wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:14 pm
And there you went after a person's beliefs again when none of your arguments actually stood up.
Your beliefs can not be divorced from the worldview you expound. Your spelling and grammar argument is all you have, you have not countered any position I hold. So please put me in my place with a sound argument.

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Post by GRTfast » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:16 pm

RevTheory wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:14 pm
And there you went after a person's beliefs again when none of your arguments actually stood up.
I’m not getting into you two’s discussion, but from my perspective, people’s beliefs are very important and central to the heart of topics like this.

People’s beliefs inform their actions. That’s why they are on the table in any discussion about politics or policy as far as I’m concerned.

It is disturbing to people like me (who base their worldview on a rational and internally honest evaluation of the facts about what we know, don’t know, and can know) that people out there live by beliefs that are not warranted by anything demonstrable or reasonable. These people live on the same planet as me, in the same society as me, and their actions have an effect on me.

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Post by mitch » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:58 am

GRTfast wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:16 pm
RevTheory wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:14 pm
And there you went after a person's beliefs again when none of your arguments actually stood up.
I’m not getting into you two’s discussion, but from my perspective, people’s beliefs are very important and central to the heart of topics like this.

People’s beliefs inform their actions. That’s why they are on the table in any discussion about politics or policy as far as I’m concerned.

It is disturbing to people like me (who base their worldview on a rational and internally honest evaluation of the facts about what we know, don’t know, and can know) that people out there live by beliefs that are not warranted by anything demonstrable or reasonable. These people live on the same planet as me, in the same society as me, and their actions have an effect on me.
Same thing can be said about your political beliefs and how they affect me

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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by GRTfast » Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:19 am

mitch wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:58 am
GRTfast wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:16 pm
RevTheory wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:14 pm
And there you went after a person's beliefs again when none of your arguments actually stood up.
I’m not getting into you two’s discussion, but from my perspective, people’s beliefs are very important and central to the heart of topics like this.

People’s beliefs inform their actions. That’s why they are on the table in any discussion about politics or policy as far as I’m concerned.

It is disturbing to people like me (who base their worldview on a rational and internally honest evaluation of the facts about what we know, don’t know, and can know) that people out there live by beliefs that are not warranted by anything demonstrable or reasonable. These people live on the same planet as me, in the same society as me, and their actions have an effect on me.
Same thing can be said about your political beliefs and how they affect me
What do you know about my political beliefs? They certainly aren’t based upon anything imaginary. I voted libertarian in the last election, and the one before that. I’ve voted both democrat and republican in my life as well. My political actions (how I vote) are based on a logical analysis of the candidates, how their voting records align with my positions, and my perception of their integrity and intentions.

You’re assertion does nothing to quell my concerns about others basing their worldview on a fantasy that they want to be true. Once that fantasy has been accepted as truth (based on no good reason I might add), it’s all down hill from there.

As has been said before, good people do good, and bad people do bad... but for good people to do bad, that takes religion.

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Post by Ken0069 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:49 am

Just what the f...ing hugo chavez suck ass "bus driver president" ordered, ie, HE is gaining control of the news media!!

Venezuelan newspaper closures leave coverage in state's hands
July 26, 2018
(Reuters) - Almost three-quarters of Venezuela’s newspapers have closed during five years of recession in the once-prosperous OPEC member country, according to the national journalism association, leaving El Nacional as the last independent national daily.

Press watchdogs warn that media freedom declined over the past year, which saw President Nicolas Maduro win a fresh six-year term in May at elections boycotted by the opposition.

Venezuela slid six places in Reporters Without Borders’ index of world press freedom to 143 place from 180 countries surveyed.

According to Venezuela’s Press Institute IPYS, the national telecoms regulator also closed 40 radio stations in 2017 citing irregularities in their licenses.

Maduro’s government says it treats all media outlets equally and there is freedom of expression. However, it has publicly said it wants more control over the media, which in the past was openly anti-government and welcomed a brief coup in 2002 against then-President Hugo Chavez.

The closures have left coverage increasingly in the hands of state-controlled radio and television outlets and pro-government newspapers like Ultimas Noticias, covering Maduro’s official activities while ignoring rising levels of malnutrition and disease.

“Only the debris of the bourgeois media is left,” Maduro said in a speech in June during the country´s national journalists´ day.

Venezuela’s Information Ministry did not respond to multiple requests for comment on the government’s treatment of the media.

A number of Venezuela’s new generation of online outlets also are increasingly facing difficulties. They are reporting website blockages, forcing them to find more creative ways to deliver news, such as audio summaries sent by WhatsApp.

“It’s a way of getting around censorship. Because we’re not going to just sit here moaning that they have blocked us,” said Cesar Batiz, who founded news site El Pitazo in 2014.

The Information Ministry did not respond to a request to comment on website blockages. (more here)
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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by Firedome8 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:40 pm

Ken0069 wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:49 am
Just what the f...ing hugo chavez suck ass "bus driver president" ordered, ie, HE is gaining control of the news media!!

Venezuelan newspaper closures leave coverage in state's hands
July 26, 2018
(Reuters) - Almost three-quarters of Venezuela’s newspapers have closed during five years of recession in the once-prosperous OPEC member country, according to the national journalism association, leaving El Nacional as the last independent national daily.

Press watchdogs warn that media freedom declined over the past year, which saw President Nicolas Maduro win a fresh six-year term in May at elections boycotted by the opposition.

Venezuela slid six places in Reporters Without Borders’ index of world press freedom to 143 place from 180 countries surveyed.

According to Venezuela’s Press Institute IPYS, the national telecoms regulator also closed 40 radio stations in 2017 citing irregularities in their licenses.

Maduro’s government says it treats all media outlets equally and there is freedom of expression. However, it has publicly said it wants more control over the media, which in the past was openly anti-government and welcomed a brief coup in 2002 against then-President Hugo Chavez.

The closures have left coverage increasingly in the hands of state-controlled radio and television outlets and pro-government newspapers like Ultimas Noticias, covering Maduro’s official activities while ignoring rising levels of malnutrition and disease.

“Only the debris of the bourgeois media is left,” Maduro said in a speech in June during the country´s national journalists´ day.

Venezuela’s Information Ministry did not respond to multiple requests for comment on the government’s treatment of the media.

A number of Venezuela’s new generation of online outlets also are increasingly facing difficulties. They are reporting website blockages, forcing them to find more creative ways to deliver news, such as audio summaries sent by WhatsApp.

“It’s a way of getting around censorship. Because we’re not going to just sit here moaning that they have blocked us,” said Cesar Batiz, who founded news site El Pitazo in 2014.

The Information Ministry did not respond to a request to comment on website blockages. (more here)
Sound like Foux news

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Post by Ken0069 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:35 pm

Funny, every time I see something about this "bitch" on the news, Venezuela comes to mind?? :-k

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Post by exhaustgases » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:32 pm

She looks better there than on tv. I can see all our favorite trolls wanting her as the president. Then the song could be true.

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Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:35 pm
Funny, every time I see something about this "bitch" on the news, Venezuela comes to mind?? :-k

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Do farm subsidies ? Or how about Medicare or social security ,,,?

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Post by Ken0069 » Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:13 am

About time some "patriots" there in Venezuela "grew a pair" and decided to try to do what's necessary to remove that piece of shit chavez suck ass bus driver dicktater that has managed to single-handedly destroyed the richest oil reserve country in the WORLD!! Looks like they came up a little short on their first attempt!! Maybe next time!!

Venezuelan Government: Explosions Were Attempted Attack on President Nicolas Maduro

Aug 04, 2018 7:19 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tempt.html

President Nicolas Maduro claims he was the subject of an assassination plot using explosives-rigged drones

Socialist premier claimed those responsible were 'far-right' Venezuelan exiles living in Florida and Colombia

Pointed finger at Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos who's criticized him for undermining democracy

Maduro was seen addressing a military parade on live TV before looking to the sky after hearing an explosion

A terrified look crossed his face before he was bundled away by uniformed aides carrying bulletproof shields

Hundreds of soldiers who were assembled in neat rows suddenly scattered in all directions amid screaming


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Post by Firedome8 » Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:59 am

Ken0069 wrote:
Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:13 am
About time some "patriots" there in Venezuela "grew a pair" and decided to try to do what's necessary to remove that piece of shit chavez suck ass bus driver dicktater that has managed to single-handedly destroyed the richest oil reserve country in the WORLD!! Looks like they came up a little short on their first attempt!! Maybe next time!!

Venezuelan Government: Explosions Were Attempted Attack on President Nicolas Maduro

Aug 04, 2018 7:19 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tempt.html

President Nicolas Maduro claims he was the subject of an assassination plot using explosives-rigged drones

Socialist premier claimed those responsible were 'far-right' Venezuelan exiles living in Florida and Colombia

Pointed finger at Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos who's criticized him for undermining democracy

Maduro was seen addressing a military parade on live TV before looking to the sky after hearing an explosion

A terrified look crossed his face before he was bundled away by uniformed aides carrying bulletproof shields

Hundreds of soldiers who were assembled in neat rows suddenly scattered in all directions amid screaming


(more here)
Watch what you wish for are not you a socialist on the government doll ???

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Post by Ken0069 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:07 pm

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And as a plus I'll throw THIS one in for good measure because I know what's coming! :roll:
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