Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by TrOll » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:23 pm

Firedome8 wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:23 pm
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Again my question to you, is your god Yahawah ? Or a mishmash of mythical sky gods that you congered up by yourself?
And this heaven place is it the one described in the Hebrew holy book? Or do you worship the socialist teaching of JC who is actually yahawah according to the Roman propoganda book? Answers I know you can't give due to the logic enema that will come next.
Jesus is the first born of all creation. He is not the almighty heavenly father. Heaven place ? A place where angels with spirit bodies abide. Did I answer ?
So then their is more than one god? Christian belief says Jesus is god. Do you see ware the logic fails already ?? And do spirit bodies change back and forth between spirit and matter? Etc.
I have lots of questions....
It's THERE not THEIR in the context of what you were trying to say! #-o That and it's WHERE not WARE the logic fails? Educated much? :roll: What, 3rd grade? I would have thought that the people who hire internet trolls like you would be a little more selective in their choices simply because every time you write something it's full of shit like this your credibility drops to zero!!

So in the future you should stick to your youtube links and the occasional one liner to try to avoid the "I'm stupid" factor that follows you like a shadow! =D>
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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by GRTfast » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:09 pm

exhaustgases wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:20 pm
GRTfast wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:29 am
exhaustgases wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:47 am
That is what is so cool someday (<-- manner of speech ) all will know for sure there is the almighty god in heaven, that's part of the accounting, every knee bends to him. Have a fun time and laugh now, when that happens there will be no laughing. Imagine the shock finding out he is for real?
So why is it so difficult in the now time for some to see all of creation and then deny his existence? Most supposed intelligent people should know how difficult it is to make an IC micro processor and then the software to make it work, that is nothing compared to the many creatures on this earth.
I don't understand, I guess its more of do you hear yanny or laurel stuff. I just know for Marxist demoncratisim to work god can not exist.
Do you think belief is a choice?
Yes, and that choice determines that persons future, and standing with their creator. Will you make the correct choice?
To reiterate, belief is not a matter of choice.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psycho ... oice%3famp

Can you switch to truly believing in some different god, or no god at all simply as a matter of choice!? Of course not. If you believe, it means that your perception of what you’ve experienced and learned leads you to the conclusion that there is a god, and it’s the one you believe in.

For me, I was a believer. As I dug in, read the Bible, and learned about history, science, logic, and the cosmos, I came to realize that there was no logical reason to believe in any god. I became comfortable admitting I didn’t know something when I didn’t know. It’s thst simple. I haven’t seen sufficient evidence that any god exists. That all.

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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by Firedome8 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:36 pm

TrOll wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:23 pm
Firedome8 wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:23 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:22 pm


Jesus is the first born of all creation. He is not the almighty heavenly father. Heaven place ? A place where angels with spirit bodies abide. Did I answer ?
So then their is more than one god? Christian belief says Jesus is god. Do you see ware the logic fails already ?? And do spirit bodies change back and forth between spirit and matter? Etc.
I have lots of questions....
It's THERE not THEIR in the context of what you were trying to say! #-o That and it's WHERE not WARE the logic fails? Educated much? :roll: What, 3rd grade? I would have thought that the people who hire internet trolls like you would be a little more selective in their choices simply because every time you write something it's full of shit like this your credibility drops to zero!!

So in the future you should stick to your youtube links and the occasional one liner to try to avoid the "I'm stupid" factor that follows you like a shadow! =D>
Again your spell checker is working but your stupid button is stuck down. Fail try again !
Let me guess you believe in supernatural gods but do not want a debate because spell checker will not help you with your delusions. So put me in my place I can handle it come on you can do it tell me all about it . Lol this is fun

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Post by Firedome8 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:05 am

exhaustgases wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:44 pm
To create something you have to be able to see it, and fully understand it. Things do not come from nothing. Simple science that all believe in.
All things are made from energy, who made that energy into particulate form? And then gave it structure?
What created god?

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Post by David Redszus » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:43 pm

When did Jesus become a god?
He is called the "son of man", and later called the "son of god". Which is it?

Was he a prophet or a messiah?

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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by gmrocket » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:16 pm

GRTfast wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:35 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:20 pm
GRTfast wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:29 am


Do you think belief is a choice?
Yes, and that choice determines that persons future, and standing with their creator. Will you make the correct choice?
It’s not a choice. Saying that you believe something or not is a choice, but whether or not you actually believe it isn’t. You’re entire position is built upon a false pretense.

If you think belief is a choice, try for a few seconds to believe that 2+2=37
Holy crap! Talk about not believing in freedom!!

You can believe in anything you want in America, no matter how bonkers it is.

Let's see you take on the Muslims and tell them there is no Allah...in fact I suggest you head on over to the Middle East and rip on the Muslims the same way your doing here with christians.

Let us know how you make out....dare ya

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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by Firedome8 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:27 pm

gmrocket wrote:
Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:16 pm
GRTfast wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:35 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:20 pm


Yes, and that choice determines that persons future, and standing with their creator. Will you make the correct choice?
It’s not a choice. Saying that you believe something or not is a choice, but whether or not you actually believe it isn’t. You’re entire position is built upon a false pretense.

If you think belief is a choice, try for a few seconds to believe that 2+2=37
Holy crap! Talk about not believing in freedom!!

You can believe in anything you want in America, no matter how bonkers it is.

Let's see you take on the Muslims and tell them there is no Allah...in fact I suggest you head on over to the Middle East and rip on the Muslims the same way your doing here with christians.

Let us know how you make out....dare ya
Believe in anything you want just do not mix it with politics or policy, you touch on what is fu about the middle east, delusions and policy make for the chaos that prevales in said regions of the world.

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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by GRTfast » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:47 pm

gmrocket wrote:
Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:16 pm
GRTfast wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:35 pm
exhaustgases wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:20 pm


Yes, and that choice determines that persons future, and standing with their creator. Will you make the correct choice?
It’s not a choice. Saying that you believe something or not is a choice, but whether or not you actually believe it isn’t. You’re entire position is built upon a false pretense.

If you think belief is a choice, try for a few seconds to believe that 2+2=37
Holy crap! Talk about not believing in freedom!!

You can believe in anything you want in America, no matter how bonkers it is.

Let's see you take on the Muslims and tell them there is no Allah...in fact I suggest you head on over to the Middle East and rip on the Muslims the same way your doing here with christians.

Let us know how you make out....dare ya
You're (completely) missing what I am saying. You are free to believe (and say that you believe) whatever you want. That doesn't mean that you are capable of truly believing anything. You can say (act like, play along like) you believe in unicorns or Yahweh or santa or the flying spaghetti monster, and no one should be able to harm you or imprison you or penalize you. Saying (or acting like) you believe something doesn't mean you actually really believe it. I can't choose to believe in any god, because it hasn't been sufficiently demonstrated to me that any god exists. I can't choose to believe milk is in the fridge if I look and none is there.

If some evidence were presented to compel me to believe, then I would believe. If this doesn't make sense to you, try to believe that Zeus exists, and is the ruler of the sky and air. Try to "choose" to believe that... just for a minute. Can you? Can you believe that Zeus is real based on a choice?

Saying that anyone is free to believe anything isn't the same thing as saying anyone can choose to believe anything. What you truly believe isn't a choice, it's a result of your perception. Can you choose to believe your car runs 2's in the quarter mile at 650 mph? Why not?

I bet you there are a shit load of people out there going to church, saying they believe, but deep down, they really aren't sure, or outright don't believe.

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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by Firedome8 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:30 pm

Firedome8 wrote:
Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:05 am
exhaustgases wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:44 pm
To create something you have to be able to see it, and fully understand it. Things do not come from nothing. Simple science that all believe in.
All things are made from energy, who made that energy into particulate form? And then gave it structure?
What created god?

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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by Firedome8 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:51 am

engineczar wrote:
Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:35 am
Tucker being Tucker

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/07/07/ ... socialism/
Does our system of corporate welfare and social security and public schools public roads etc etc put America in the category of Democratic socialism ? How about that deficit spending is that born out of socialist ideas? Or is crony capitalism the law of the land? Is a 20 000 000 000 000. debt mean our system is deeply flawed?
Just asking.

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Post by Firedome8 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:24 am

Firedome8 wrote:
Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:30 pm
Firedome8 wrote:
Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:05 am
exhaustgases wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:44 pm
To create something you have to be able to see it, and fully understand it. Things do not come from nothing. Simple science that all believe in.
All things are made from energy, who made that energy into particulate form? And then gave it structure?
What created god?
I guess this is another example of becoming logically cornered. Or just answer the question.

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Post by engineczar » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:59 am

Firedome8 wrote:
Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:51 am
engineczar wrote:
Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:35 am
Tucker being Tucker

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/07/07/ ... socialism/
Does our system of corporate welfare and social security and public schools public roads etc etc put America in the category of Democratic socialism ? How about that deficit spending is that born out of socialist ideas? Or is crony capitalism the law of the land? Is a 20 000 000 000 000. debt mean our system is deeply flawed?
Just asking.
Do you have toilet paper? Do you eat your dog?

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Post by GRTfast » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:14 pm

engineczar wrote:
Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:59 am
Firedome8 wrote:
Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:51 am
engineczar wrote:
Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:35 am
Tucker being Tucker

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/07/07/ ... socialism/
Does our system of corporate welfare and social security and public schools public roads etc etc put America in the category of Democratic socialism ? How about that deficit spending is that born out of socialist ideas? Or is crony capitalism the law of the land? Is a 20 000 000 000 000. debt mean our system is deeply flawed?
Just asking.
Do you have toilet paper? Do you eat your dog?
So to be clear, are you suggesting that a system can only be classified as socialist if it has a negative outcome? #-o

By definition, we have socialist institutions in our country that work. Police, firefighter, public schools, social security, etc.. these are socialist institutions, and they do good for our society, or at least appear to, and I think most people would agree that they do.

This is the problem when you have an absolutist either/or simpleton world view. You fail to recognize that the ideal scenario is a blend of different ideologies.

Is Tylenol bad? Taking 2 makes your headache go away. Taking 15 kills you. I see so much argument (especially on the forum) where people absolutely ignore the fact that reality exists in the gray area between absolute concepts.

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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by Firedome8 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:58 pm

engineczar wrote:
Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:59 am
Firedome8 wrote:
Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:51 am
engineczar wrote:
Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:35 am
Tucker being Tucker

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/07/07/ ... socialism/
Does our system of corporate welfare and social security and public schools public roads etc etc put America in the category of Democratic socialism ? How about that deficit spending is that born out of socialist ideas? Or is crony capitalism the law of the land? Is a 20 000 000 000 000. debt mean our system is deeply flawed?
Just asking.
Do you have toilet paper? Do you eat your dog?
Not yet.

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