Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

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Post by engineczar » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:18 pm

As soon as I got to the part of the story that said that Maduro has won his elections fair and square I knew the story wasn't an honest one. Not saying the whole story is BS but anyone paying attention knows that Maduro IS a dictator.

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Post by Ken0069 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:37 pm

engineczar wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:18 pm
As soon as I got to the part of the story that said that Maduro has won his elections fair and square I knew the story wasn't an honest one. Not saying the whole story is BS but anyone paying attention knows that Maduro IS a dictator.
Isn't that how marxists governments always turn out? Sort of a "natural degression" if you will from marxism to dick-tatership all the while claiming to be "democratic" and supported by the state run news media that they control? :roll:
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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

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engineczar wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:18 pm
As soon as I got to the part of the story that said that Maduro has won his elections fair and square I knew the story wasn't an honest one. Not saying the whole story is BS but anyone paying attention knows that Maduro IS a dictator.
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Post by Firedome8 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:40 pm

Despite the polemics and distortions, being a "liberal" is about being for individual liberties of mind and conscience as well as having personal liberty, the one that ends at the tip of another person's nose in the old formula.

Liberals can have a positive vision of the democratic state and a negative vision of the state controlled by various non-democratic powers. Corporate, religious or military control of the state all offend real democrats.

Socialism is not the authoritarian state controlling the means of production. It is about the popular ownership of the economy, and that occurs both in private, small businesses and family farms--and in having a publicly accountable state. Dictators cannot be "socialists" by definition. They can use the state to dominate the economy, but dictators represent small and non-democratic power elites/bases. A military regime, for example, may have different objectives from a corporate regime, or may work together. But even if it calls itself the People's Army, it is not accountable to them.

In the end, we return to the old problem of freedom needing to be "for all" or being the power of some to enslave the others. Freedom must be balanced by mutuality and seen in an interdependent context instead of being a radical individual dream of escape from accountability. A society that prizes the freedom of mind and conscience and sees the advantage of creative individuals following their bliss and vocational call is what free individuals need. Smaller government does not promise mutuality or any universality to control the freedom of the predators.

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Corporate-Welfare-to-Companies.jpg
Is this socialist ?

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_welfare

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Post by sanfordandson » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:58 pm

"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis =D>

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Post by af2 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:31 pm

Firedome8 wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:46 pm
Corporate-Welfare-to-Companies.jpg

Is this socialist ?
Now go 10 years ahead and tell us.... [-X
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Post by 1989TransAm » Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:04 am

af2 wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:31 pm
Firedome8 wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:46 pm
Corporate-Welfare-to-Companies.jpg

Is this socialist ?
Now go 10 years ahead and tell us.... [-X
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Re: Oh The Joys Of Socialism..................NOT!

Post by pdq67 » Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:59 am

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I would love to unwrap that on Christmas morning and play with it!!

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