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Re: Anti Warming News

Post by GRTfast » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:54 pm

gmrocket wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:33 pm
GRTfast wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:07 pm
gmrocket wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:04 pm


Ya no kidding... I wonder if they would have ever found out themselves if they had F'd up? Or would that report have gone on for years and years ?

I'll give them credit for admitting right off the bat they f'd it up.
All you’re doing is admitting that you have no idea how science works. Tell me, what profession were those people that wrote the journal article pointing out the flaws in the first one?
Ok, let me get this straight.

I just relayed a report that turned out to be hog wash, and admitted as much by scientists who did the study..

The scientific study was done by the Scripps institution of oceanography

Which a whole load of lefties rely on for data and advice...hence the publication of its report in the journal Nature

I'm not disputing anything they say, or disputing the data, or being the deplorable skeptic I am...

Just posting the very embarrassing backtracking of a report they admitted was totally flawed

So, in a nutshell

1They admitted the report was flawed
2I'm not admitting i know more about science than they do
3Your a jack azz
4The study was totally flawed
You’re lost. <———-Fact

The scientific process is self correcting. You’re seeing it in action here. This is how you can know they aren’t all in league together as part of some big conspiracy.

Did they say “we’re sorry, anthropomorphic climate change isn’t a thing”?

It is obvious that you’re very ignorant on this topic. Notice I didn’t say that you’re stupid. That’s a different debate.

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Re: Anti Warming News

Post by gmrocket » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:05 pm

GRTfast wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:54 pm
gmrocket wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:33 pm
GRTfast wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:07 pm


All you’re doing is admitting that you have no idea how science works. Tell me, what profession were those people that wrote the journal article pointing out the flaws in the first one?
Ok, let me get this straight.

I just relayed a report that turned out to be hog wash, and admitted as much by scientists who did the study..

The scientific study was done by the Scripps institution of oceanography

Which a whole load of lefties rely on for data and advice...hence the publication of its report in the journal Nature

I'm not disputing anything they say, or disputing the data, or being the deplorable skeptic I am...

Just posting the very embarrassing backtracking of a report they admitted was totally flawed

So, in a nutshell

1They admitted the report was flawed
2I'm not admitting i know more about science than they do
3Your a jack azz
4The study was totally flawed
You’re lost. <———-Fact

The scientific process is self correcting. You’re seeing it in action here. This is how you can know they aren’t all in league together as part of some big conspiracy.

Did they say “we’re sorry, anthropomorphic climate change isn’t a thing”?

It is obvious that you’re very ignorant on this topic. Notice I didn’t say that you’re stupid. That’s a different debate.
I would think if a Walmart greeter with a grade 6 education spotted the flaws in the data, that's a big red flag

Self correcting is a new one, but I'll take you at your word, after all you are an engineer

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Re: Anti Warming News

Post by GRTfast » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:26 pm

gmrocket wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:05 pm
GRTfast wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:54 pm
gmrocket wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:33 pm


Ok, let me get this straight.

I just relayed a report that turned out to be hog wash, and admitted as much by scientists who did the study..

The scientific study was done by the Scripps institution of oceanography

Which a whole load of lefties rely on for data and advice...hence the publication of its report in the journal Nature

I'm not disputing anything they say, or disputing the data, or being the deplorable skeptic I am...

Just posting the very embarrassing backtracking of a report they admitted was totally flawed

So, in a nutshell

1They admitted the report was flawed
2I'm not admitting i know more about science than they do
3Your a jack azz
4The study was totally flawed
You’re lost. <———-Fact

The scientific process is self correcting. You’re seeing it in action here. This is how you can know they aren’t all in league together as part of some big conspiracy.

Did they say “we’re sorry, anthropomorphic climate change isn’t a thing”?

It is obvious that you’re very ignorant on this topic. Notice I didn’t say that you’re stupid. That’s a different debate.
I would think if a Walmart greeter with a grade 6 education spotted the flaws in the data, that's a big red flag

Self correcting is a new one, but I'll take you at your word, after all you are an engineer
I know it’s a new one to you, because you literally do not have the first clue about how science works, or advances. You have no idea what motivates scientists. If you think the main motive is money, you’re even more lost than I thought. There are far far far easier ways to make money than to get a masters or PhD in a technical field.

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Re: Anti Warming News

Post by gmrocket » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:13 am

I didn't say a word about money

Your grasping at straws... I just related a study that turned out to be bogus

The study was not self corrected, it was found to be bogus by one guy... and he is on the denier side. If that hadn't happened, who knows how long it would have been believed?

Meanwhile back at the ranch....

NASA has reported we are going to be experiencing record COLD temps

In Montreal, a march to force governments into taking stronger action on climate change was much smaller than predicted...due to bitterly cold weather

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Re: Anti Warming News

Post by GRTfast » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:43 am

gmrocket wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:13 am
I didn't say a word about money

Your grasping at straws... I just related a study that turned out to be bogus

The study was not self corrected, it was found to be bogus by one guy... and he is on the denier side. If that hadn't happened, who knows how long it would have been believed?

Meanwhile back at the ranch....

NASA has reported we are going to be experiencing record COLD temps

In Montreal, a march to force governments into taking stronger action on climate change was much smaller than predicted...due to bitterly cold weather
You're lost <---------------- FACT.

When did I say that the study was "self corrected"? I said that the scientific process is self correcting. People do work and put it out there. It is peer reviewed. Others check the work, trying to replicate and/or falsify it. When one of those things happens, the work is either supported or refuted. This is how we learn. No individual scientist or team is infallible, however the process which I described is demonstrably the best method for uncovering facts about reality. It is likely that we currently (as a species) believe a lot of things that aren't actually true, but they are what the strong preponderance of evidence supports. As we get new evidence, our understanding advances. If we don't base our beliefs on evidence and sound reasoning, what should be base them on?

This is like arguing with a less crazy version of EG. You literally don't understand the topic, even at an elementary level.

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Re: Anti Warming News

Post by Ken0069 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:59 am

Global Warming..................................... :roll: IIRC Some Russian scientists have been predicting another ice age is coming for years!!

Washington, D.C. Hit with First Measurable November Snowfall in 22 Years
In what is being described as a “messy mix” of snow, sleet, and freezing rain, winter appears to have come early to Washington, D.C., causing commute delays and school cancelations across the nation’s capital.

A Winter Weather Advisory is in effect and will be in place until at least Thursday evening as one to two inches are expected to fall today. The November snowfall average is 0.5 inches. The November snowfall record in the city is 11.5 inches, while averaging 14.5 inches of snow annually. The snowy weather will then head north and west of the city, according to WTOP. According to reports, Thursday’s weather is the first measurable snowfall in November since 1996.

“A lot of people didn’t think the snow would materialize this early in the year. It’s a little bit of a shock value,” Virginia Department of Transportation official Ellen Kamilakis said. “We ask people to slow down, to add in more time to their commutes, to not underestimate things. Don’t drive like it’s a fall day; drive like this is a winter day.”

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Re: Anti Warming News

Post by Ken0069 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:00 am

OH NO!!!! NOT A MISTAKE IN THE WARMING PREDICTION SHIT!!!! SAY IT AIN'T SO!!! :roll:

Climate Scientists Discover Error in Major Ocean-Warming Study
By Jack Crowe
November 14, 2018 1:17 PM
Two researchers have been forced to issue a major correction to a recent study indicating oceans have been warming at a significantly higher rate than previously thought due to climate change.

The paper, published October 31 in the scientific journal Nature, suggested ocean temperatures have risen roughly 60 percent higher than estimated by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). But, after errors in the authors’ methodology were identified, they realized their findings were roughly in line with those of the IPCC, after all.

The researchers’ alarming findings were uncritically reported by numerous mainstream-media outlets but Nic Lewis, a mathematician and popular critic of the consensus on man-made climate change, quickly identified errors.

“The findings of the . . . paper were peer reviewed and published in the world’s premier scientific journal and were given wide coverage in the English-speaking media,” Lewis wrote in a critique of the paper. “Despite this, a quick review of the first page of the paper was sufficient to raise doubts as to the accuracy of its results.”

Ralph Keeling, a climate scientist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography who co-authored the paper, said he and his partner, Laure Resplandy of Princeton, quickly realized the implications of their mistake once Lewis pointed it out.

“When we were confronted with his insight it became immediately clear there was an issue there,” he said. “We’re grateful to have it be pointed out quickly so that we could correct it quickly.”

After correcting their mistake, Keeling said their research indicates oceans are warming only slightly faster than previously thought, not dramatically faster as they initially reported. Keeling said the miscalculation was made when they were calculating their margin of error, which had a larger range (10 to 70 percent) than they initially believed.

“Our error margins are too big now to really weigh in on the precise amount of warming that’s going on in the ocean,” Keeling said. “We really muffed the error margins.”

The IPCC released a report last month calling on governments to take drastic action to combat climate change. According to the report, global carbon emissions must be cut by 20 percent by 2030 and completely eliminated by 2075 in order to prevent temperatures from rising two degrees above pre-industrial levels, at which point coastal areas would be completely flooded and hundreds of millions of people would be in danger of starvation.

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Re: Anti Warming News

Post by gmrocket » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:42 pm

Ken0069 wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:00 am
OH NO!!!! NOT A MISTAKE IN THE WARMING PREDICTION SHIT!!!! SAY IT AIN'T SO!!! :roll:

Climate Scientists Discover Error in Major Ocean-Warming Study
By Jack Crowe
November 14, 2018 1:17 PM
Two researchers have been forced to issue a major correction to a recent study indicating oceans have been warming at a significantly higher rate than previously thought due to climate change.

The paper, published October 31 in the scientific journal Nature, suggested ocean temperatures have risen roughly 60 percent higher than estimated by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). But, after errors in the authors’ methodology were identified, they realized their findings were roughly in line with those of the IPCC, after all.

The researchers’ alarming findings were uncritically reported by numerous mainstream-media outlets but Nic Lewis, a mathematician and popular critic of the consensus on man-made climate change, quickly identified errors.

“The findings of the . . . paper were peer reviewed and published in the world’s premier scientific journal and were given wide coverage in the English-speaking media,” Lewis wrote in a critique of the paper. “Despite this, a quick review of the first page of the paper was sufficient to raise doubts as to the accuracy of its results.”

Ralph Keeling, a climate scientist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography who co-authored the paper, said he and his partner, Laure Resplandy of Princeton, quickly realized the implications of their mistake once Lewis pointed it out.

“When we were confronted with his insight it became immediately clear there was an issue there,” he said. “We’re grateful to have it be pointed out quickly so that we could correct it quickly.”

After correcting their mistake, Keeling said their research indicates oceans are warming only slightly faster than previously thought, not dramatically faster as they initially reported. Keeling said the miscalculation was made when they were calculating their margin of error, which had a larger range (10 to 70 percent) than they initially believed.

“Our error margins are too big now to really weigh in on the precise amount of warming that’s going on in the ocean,” Keeling said. “We really muffed the error margins.”

The IPCC released a report last month calling on governments to take drastic action to combat climate change. According to the report, global carbon emissions must be cut by 20 percent by 2030 and completely eliminated by 2075 in order to prevent temperatures from rising two degrees above pre-industrial levels, at which point coastal areas would be completely flooded and hundreds of millions of people would be in danger of starvation.

(more here)
Oh no.... here we go again. GRT will explain what went wrong and the "self correcting " that proves everything is on the up and up

But the damage was probably already done, people looked at that when it first came out and ramped up the rhetoric.

Good thing it wasn't out there longer than a couple weeks though

It's a real kick in the climate change religion nuts when a respected organization gets it study peer reviewed, then one single deplorable denier exposes it as bvllshyt right off the bat

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Re: Anti Warming News

Post by lefty o » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:07 pm

pretty sure i pointed this out before. crap data in = crap data out. the self proclaimed geniuses dont want to hear it though.

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Re: Anti Warming News

Post by GRTfast » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:16 pm

gmrocket wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:42 pm


The paper, published October 31 in the scientific journal Nature, suggested ocean temperatures have risen roughly 60 percent higher than estimated by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). But, after errors in the authors’ methodology were identified, they realized their findings were roughly in line with those of the IPCC, after all.

So you agree with the IPCC findings. Got it. :lol:

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Re: Anti Warming News

Post by GRTfast » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:18 pm

lefty o wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:07 pm
pretty sure i pointed this out before. crap data in = crap data out. the self proclaimed geniuses dont want to hear it though.
What does exhaustgases have to do with this? :wink:

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Re: Anti Warming News

Post by lefty o » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:22 pm

GRTfast wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:18 pm
lefty o wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:07 pm
pretty sure i pointed this out before. crap data in = crap data out. the self proclaimed geniuses dont want to hear it though.
What does exhaustgases have to do with this? :wink:
not talking about him. lol

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Re: Anti Warming News

Post by gmrocket » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:01 pm

GRTfast wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:16 pm
gmrocket wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:42 pm


The paper, published October 31 in the scientific journal Nature, suggested ocean temperatures have risen roughly 60 percent higher than estimated by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). But, after errors in the authors’ methodology were identified, they realized their findings were roughly in line with those of the IPCC, after all.

So you agree with the IPCC findings. Got it. :lol:
Not me.. but they did after they were outed
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Re: Anti Warming News

Post by GRTfast » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:03 pm

gmrocket wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:01 pm
GRTfast wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:16 pm
gmrocket wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:42 pm


The paper, published October 31 in the scientific journal Nature, suggested ocean temperatures have risen roughly 60 percent higher than estimated by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). But, after errors in the authors’ methodology were identified, they realized their findings were roughly in line with those of the IPCC, after all.

So you agree with the IPCC findings. Got it. :lol:
Yup, after they were outed
:lol:

You're lost <--------------- FACT

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Re: Anti Warming News

Post by gmrocket » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:07 pm

GRTfast wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:03 pm
gmrocket wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:01 pm
GRTfast wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:16 pm


So you agree with the IPCC findings. Got it. :lol:
Yup, after they were outed
:lol:

You're lost <--------------- FACT
Do you realize you that quote wasn't mine?

I never said that or or agree with it.

Your the lost one.. try harder next to get your quotes and facts correct..

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