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Re: The worst President in American history

Post by Ken0069 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:44 am

Obama “did more damage to America’s national security in his first 100 days in office than any other president in American history”
Unknown wrote:The single most prominent characteristic of contemporary America is that
common sense has been abandoned to political correctness and "feelings."

As President George W. Bush's top speech writer, Marc Thiessen ( The Kelly
File on FOX ) was provided unique access to the CIA program used in
interrogating top Al Qaeda terrorists, including the mastermind of the 9/11
attack, Khalid Sheikh Mohammad (KSM).

Now, his riveting new book, Courting Disaster: How the CIA Kept America
Safe (Regnery), has been published. Here is an excerpt from Courting
Disaster:

"Just before dawn on March 1, 2003, two dozen heavily armed Pakistani
tactical assault forces move in and surround a safe house in Rawalpindi. A
few hours earlier they had received a text message from an informant inside
the house. It read: "I am with KSM."

Bursting in, they find the disheveled mastermind of the 9/11 attacks,
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, in his bedroom. He is taken into custody. In the
safe house, they find a treasure trove of computers, documents, cell phones
and other valuable "pocket litter."

Once in custody, KSM is defiant. He refuses to answer questions, informing
his captors that he will tell them everything when he gets to America and
sees his lawyer. But KSM is not taken to America to see a lawyer Instead
he is taken to a secret CIA "black site" in an undisclosed location.

Upon arrival, KSM finds himself in the complete control of Americans. He
does not know where he is, how long he will be there, or what his fate will
be. Despite his circumstances, KSM still refuses to talk. He spews
contempt at his interrogators, telling them Americans are weak, lack
resilience and are unable to do what is necessary to prevent the terrorists
from succeeding in their goals. He has trained to resist interrogation.
When he is asked for information about future attacks, he tells his
questioners scornfully: "Soon, you will know."

It becomes clear he will not reveal the information using traditional
interrogation techniques. So he undergoes a series of "enhanced
interrogation techniques" approved for use only on the most high-value
detainees. The techniques include water boarding. He begins telling his CIA
de-briefers about active al Qaeda plots to launch attacks against the United
States and other Western targets. He holds classes for CIA officials, using
a chalkboard to draw a picture of al Qaeda's operating structure,
financing, communications, and logistics. He identifies al Qaeda travel
routes and safe havens and helps intelligence officers make sense of
documents and computer records seized in terrorist raids. He identifies
voices in intercepted telephone calls, and helps officials understand the
meaning of coded terrorist communications. He provides information that
helps our intelligence community capture other high-ranking terrorists.

KSM's questioning, and that of other captured terrorists, produces more than
6,000 intelligence reports, which are shared across the intelligence
community, as well as with our allies across the world. In one of these
reports, KSM describes in detail the revisions he made to his failed
1994-1995 plan known as the "Bojinka plot" to blow up a dozen airplanes
carrying some 4,000 passengers over the Pacific Ocean. Years later, an
observant CIA officer notices the activities of a cell being followed by
British authorities appear to match KSM's description of his plans for a
Bojinka-style attack. In an operation that involves unprecedented
intelligence cooperation between our countries, British officials proceed to
unravel the plot.

On the night of Aug. 9, 2006, they launch a series of raids in a northeast
London suburb that lead to the arrest of two dozen al Qaeda terrorist
suspects. They find a USB thumb-drive in the pocket of one of the men with
security details for Heathrow airport, and information on seven
Trans-Atlantic flights that were scheduled to take off within hours of each
other:

* United Airlines Flight 931 to San Francisco departing at 2:15 PM
* Air Canada Flight 849 to Toronto departing at 3:00 PM
* Air Canada Flight 865 to Montreal departing at 3:15 PM
* United Airlines Flight 959 to Chicago departing at 3:40 PM
* United Airlines Flight 925 to Washington departing at 4:20 PM
* American Airlines Flight 131 to New York departing at 4:35 PM
* American Airlines Flight 91 to Chicago departing at 4:50 PM

They seize bomb-making equipment and hydrogen peroxide to make liquid
explosives. And they find the chilling martyrdom videos the suicide bombers
had prepared.

Today, if you asked an average person on the street what they know about the
2006 airlines plot, most would not be able to tell you much. Few Americans
are aware of the fact al Qaeda had planned to mark the fifth anniversary of
9/11 with an attack of similar scope and magnitude. And still fewer
realize the terrorists' true intentions in this plot were uncovered thanks
to critical information obtained through the interrogation of the man who
conceived it: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

This is only one of the many attacks stopped with the help of the CIA
interrogation program established by the Bush Administration in the wake of
the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

In addition to helping break up these specific terrorist cells and plots,
CIA questioning provided our intelligence community with an unparalleled
body of information about al Qaeda.

Until the program was temporarily suspended in 2006, intelligence officials
say, well over half of the information our government had about al Qaeda-how
it operates, how it moves money, how it communicates, how it recruits
operatives, how it picks targets, how it plans and carries out attacks-came
from the interrogation of terrorists in CIA custody.

Former CIA Director George Tenet has declared: "I know this program has
saved lives. I know we've disrupted plots. I know this program alone is
worth more than what the FBI, the Central Intelligence Agency, and the
National Security Agency put together have been able to tell us."

Former CIA Director Mike Hayden has said: "The facts of the case are that
the use of these techniques against these terrorists made us safer. It
really did work." Even Barack Obama's Director of National Intelligence,
Dennis Blair, has acknowledged: "High-value information came from
interrogations in which those methods were used and provided a deeper
understanding of the al Qaeda organization that was attacking this country."
Leon Panetta, Obama's CIA Director, has said: "Important information was
gathered from these detainees. It provided information that was acted upon."

John Brennan, Obama's Homeland Security Advisor, when asked in an interview
if enhanced-interrogation techniques were necessary to keep America safe,
replied: "Would the U. S. be handicapped if the CIA was not, in fact, able
to carry out these types of detention and debriefing activities, I would say
yes."

On Jan. 22, 2009, President Obama issued Executive Order 13491, closing the
CIA program and directing that, henceforth, all interrogations by U. S.
personnel must follow the techniques contained in the Army Field Manual.

The morning of the announcement, Mike Hayden was still in his post as CIA
Director. He called White House Counsel Greg Craig and told him bluntly:
"You didn't ask, but this is the CIA officially non-concurring." The
president went ahead anyway, overruling the objections of the agency.

A few months later, on April 16, 2009, President Obama ordered the release
of four Justice Department memos that described in detail the techniques
used to interrogate KSM and other high-value terrorists. This time, not
just Hayden (who was now retired) but five CIA directors - including Obama's
own director, Leon Panetta objected. George Tenet called to urge against
the memos' release. So did Porter Goss. So did John Deutch. Hayden says:
"You had CIA directors in a continuous unbroken stream to 1995 calling
saying, 'Don't do this.'" In addition to objections from the men who led
the agency for a collective 14 years, the President also heard objections
from the agency's covert field operatives. A few weeks earlier, Panetta had
arranged for the eight top officials of the Clandestine Service to meet with
the President. It was highly unusual for these clandestine officers to
visit the Oval Office, and they used the opportunity to warn the President
that releasing the memos would put agency operatives at risk. The President
reportedly listened respectfully, and then ignored their advice. With
these actions, Barack Obama arguably did more damage to America 's national
security in his first 100 days of office than any President in American
history.
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Re: The worst President in American history

Post by 1989TransAm » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:50 am

Obama is the worst President in the history of our country. For instance I have never seen a President try to sabotage the incoming President like Obama has.

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Re: The worst President in American history

Post by pdq67 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:57 pm

imho, bho really needs to be removed before his so-called shadow Gov. does something bad. Bad like in, "try to take President Trump out, bad"...

He, Soros, all the Clingons, and a bunch more!

Removed, not just neutralized, removed.

These SOB's REALLY do want to destroy our Country.

He did it in office by trying to destroy our military as well as divide our Country's society and then financially by increasing our National Debt with no good outcome of where the wasted money went.

Remember the $800 to $900,000,000,000 Stimulus Money that they let ride for 8 years or so after the 1st year and never told us about!! This kind of financial destruction!! I figure that it was what drove our Debt way up there and where did the money go??

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Post by Ken0069 » Wed May 03, 2017 12:28 pm

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Re: The worst President in American history

Post by mk e » Wed May 03, 2017 12:38 pm

1989TransAm wrote:Obama is the worst President in the history of our country. For instance I have never seen a President try to sabotage the incoming President like Obama has.
The Clinton team stole the "w" s from all the WH keyboards....funny but still illegal and just an example of how far outgoing administrations will go to make life harder for the incoming administration.
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Post by David Redszus » Wed May 03, 2017 1:41 pm

mk e wrote:
1989TransAm wrote:Obama is the worst President in the history of our country. For instance I have never seen a President try to sabotage the incoming President like Obama has.
The Clinton team stole the "w" s from all the WH keyboards....funny but still illegal and just an example of how far outgoing administrations will go to make life harder for the incoming administration.
Which is why the White House should have a warning sign posted:

CAUTION, CHILDREN AT PLAY.

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Post by Ken0069 » Fri May 05, 2017 8:47 pm

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Re: The worst President in American history

Post by Ratu » Thu May 18, 2017 8:28 pm

So, who was the worst President in American history?

I am not a great admirer of former-President Obama but he is by no means the worst President the US people have had to suffer. The rightful recipient of the lable is none other than Abe Lincoln with Woodrow Wilson and the two Roosevelts contending as runner-ups.

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Post by David Redszus » Fri May 19, 2017 12:30 am

Ratu wrote:So, who was the worst President in American history?

I am not a great admirer of former-President Obama but he is by no means the worst President the US people have had to suffer. The rightful recipient of the lable is none other than Abe Lincoln with Woodrow Wilson and the two Roosevelts contending as runner-ups.

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You left two all-stars out of your line-up of screwballs: JFK and LBJ. One should lead off the other bat clean up.

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Post by woody b » Sun May 28, 2017 2:38 pm

I'm proud to be from the South, but , I've been thinking about where our Presidents come from. The best 2 Presidents in my lifetime came from California, and New York. The 3 worst Presidents in my lifetime came from Arkansas, Georgia, and Kenya.
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Post by pdq67 » Tue May 30, 2017 10:54 pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"You left two all-stars out of your line-up of screwballs: JFK and LBJ. One should lead off the other bat clean up."

I know LBJ's policies have been screwing the blacks for generations, but what did JFK do that was so bad?

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Post by David Redszus » Wed May 31, 2017 11:11 am

pdq67 wrote:^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"You left two all-stars out of your line-up of screwballs: JFK and LBJ. One should lead off the other bat clean up."

I know LBJ's policies have been screwing the blacks for generations, but what did JFK do that was so bad?

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Can you remember "Bay of Pigs?", and Viet Nam?, and "Cuban Missle Crisis" and whoring with mobsters girlfriends?
And double-crossing the Chicago mob after they helped steal the election for him? They remembered.

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Post by pdq67 » Wed May 31, 2017 11:17 am

Thanks David for the info on JFK.

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Post by Dave Koehler » Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:11 pm

In all fairness our serious involvement in Nam started in the 50s, long before JFK was elected/.
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Post by pdq67 » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:29 pm

Dave Koehler wrote:In all fairness our serious involvement in Nam started in the 50s, long before JFK was elected/.
When did the French leave 'Nam and us take their place?

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