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Re: Important info

Postby rce4csh » Tue May 08, 2012 7:50 pm

In an electronic world, you can always guage the depth of a man's passion by the number of mis-spellings when he is speaking his mind!
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Re: Important info

Postby rce4csh » Tue May 08, 2012 8:21 pm

Unfortunately for RP, he lacks a strong record of success in his elected position. Throughout his entire political career, he has ranked very low in performance for his service. He is really quite good, as his record shows, at instilling the very basics of ideas; but unfortunately quite poor at turning them into reality. Turning ideas and beliefs into beneficial public policy is what he was elected to do. That is the very essense of his job.

Sadly, it is frequently his statements, like those about Israel, that run the Ron Paul train off the tracks. While I believe he is at heart a good man, his loose cannon approach to playing as a team and his often vicious rants about those who are moving America forward in action leave him where he is. No closer to leading this nation back to greatness then he was when he started his campaign. As a candidate, he has expounded many great ideas and thoughts that are well worth consideration and acting upon, but what it is also apparent is that he is seemingly unable to develop the leadership in himself to actually get them done.

To his credit, he has contributed significantly to the Republican candidate selection process in large and beneficial ways. Excepting of course the mean spirited and mis-guided guerilla warfare he and his team wages on delegates. Those involved enough to undestand the details of the delegate process know exactly what I mean. For that alone he lost my respect and cannot in my experiences ever be viewed as a national leader. Too bad he had chosen this path!

Now before everyone goes into full flame mode at my comments, take both a deep breath and also a real good look at Ron Paul's congressional performance record in comparison to the other known successful Representitives. He is not a bad man nor does he have bad ideas, but his record speaks volumes about his ability to get the ball over the goal line.
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Re: Important info

Postby MotionMachine » Wed May 09, 2012 11:00 am

My favorite Ron Paul moment was during a debate when Rick Perry couldn't think of the third gov't entity he wanted to eliminate. RP pipes in, "five, not three!".
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Re: Important info

Postby Engguy » Sun May 13, 2012 12:59 pm

rce4csh wrote:Unfortunately for RP, he lacks a strong record of success in his elected position. Throughout his entire political career, he has ranked very low in performance for his service. He is really quite good, as his record shows, at instilling the very basics of ideas; but unfortunately quite poor at turning them into reality. Turning ideas and beliefs into beneficial public policy is what he was elected to do. That is the very essense of his job.

Sadly, it is frequently his statements, like those about Israel, that run the Ron Paul train off the tracks. While I believe he is at heart a good man, his loose cannon approach to playing as a team and his often vicious rants about those who are moving America forward in action leave him where he is. No closer to leading this nation back to greatness then he was when he started his campaign. As a candidate, he has expounded many great ideas and thoughts that are well worth consideration and acting upon, but what it is also apparent is that he is seemingly unable to develop the leadership in himself to actually get them done.

To his credit, he has contributed significantly to the Republican candidate selection process in large and beneficial ways. Excepting of course the mean spirited and mis-guided guerilla warfare he and his team wages on delegates. Those involved enough to undestand the details of the delegate process know exactly what I mean. For that alone he lost my respect and cannot in my experiences ever be viewed as a national leader. Too bad he had chosen this path!

Now before everyone goes into full flame mode at my comments, take both a deep breath and also a real good look at Ron Paul's congressional performance record in comparison to the other known successful Representitives. He is not a bad man nor does he have bad ideas, but his record speaks volumes about his ability to get the ball over the goal line.

Kinda like the big "O" did huh???
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Re: Important info

Postby rce4csh » Sun May 13, 2012 7:13 pm

Engguy wrote: "Kinda like the big "O" did huh???


Exactly!! All the charisma and well written speeches do not make a leader as we have now once again been reminded.
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Re: Important info

Postby enigma57 » Tue May 15, 2012 12:23 am

Brian S wrote:I tried listening to Ron Paul for a while and liked a lot of what he had to say. However when he states that the Israelis are not our allies, there is no problem with Iran obtaining nuclear technology, and 9/11 was our fault.....he pretty much sealed his own fate. He can't possibly win. All he can do at this point is pull another Ross Perot stunt and help Obama get re-elected.


I agree with your assessment in that regard, Brian.

FWIW...... When I posted at the first of this thread, my focus was solely on the factual inaccuracies (lies) contained within the body of the article that was linked by the OP. Should have guessed from the tone of the article that I was stepping off into the netherworld of wild eyed Ron Paul supporters comprising pacifist isolationists and quite a few '911 truthers', anti-semites, legalization of pot advocates, etc., etc. as well. My apologies for being unaware of that at the outset. Walked into that one chin first.

As for my comments regarding those who hate America to the extent the author of that article obviously must...... I stand by them.

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Re: Important info

Postby Engguy » Tue May 15, 2012 1:53 am

enigma57 wrote:
Brian S wrote:I tried listening to Ron Paul for a while and liked a lot of what he had to say. However when he states that the Israelis are not our allies, there is no problem with Iran obtaining nuclear technology, and 9/11 was our fault.....he pretty much sealed his own fate. He can't possibly win. All he can do at this point is pull another Ross Perot stunt and help Obama get re-elected.


I agree with your assessment in that regard, Brian.

FWIW...... When I posted at the first of this thread, my focus was solely on the factual inaccuracies (lies) contained within the body of the article that was linked by the OP. Should have guessed from the tone of the article that I was stepping off into the netherworld of wild eyed Ron Paul supporters comprising pacifist isolationists and quite a few '911 truthers', anti-semites, legalization of pot advocates, etc., etc. as well. My apologies for being unaware of that at the outset. Walked into that one chin first.

As for my comments regarding those who hate America to the extent the author of that article obviously must...... I stand by them.

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Direct from the Liberal communist democrat dictionary, words to label people with. Kinda like training your dog to the word "sigem" or what ever else you would use. Words to the small minds of the world, to get em mad at someone. Funny stuff.
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Re: Important info

Postby enigma57 » Tue May 15, 2012 4:24 am

OK...... Let's get this straight here and now. I do not post comments intended to generate controversy nor to divert people's attention from more important issues, as you suggest.

As to your assertions...... I have not considered myself a Democrat since 1979. I am nether a liberal nor a communist. Most of the visible scars on my body are the result of my fighting the communists in places no one remembers except for those of us who were there. And we will never forget.

Regarding the terms '911 truther' and 'anti-semite' which you underlined...... If you are unclear as to their meaning, please look them up. They are descriptive terms, not 'labels'. And they describe the ideas and attitudes of many of Ron Paul's more ardent and radical followers. Hence my reference to 'wild eyed'.

Do you deny the fact that many of Ron Paul's supporters adhere to such ideas and attitudes?

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Re: Important info

Postby machine shop tom » Tue May 15, 2012 12:31 pm

rce4csh wrote:
Engguy wrote: "Kinda like the big "O" did huh???


Exactly!! All the charisma and well written speeches do not make a leader as we have now once again been reminded.


Hitler certainly had charisma and his speeches were masterpieces of audience manipulation. And he let his country straight to hell.

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