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Postby machine shop tom » Wed May 04, 2011 3:40 pm

So now the Native Americans are getting all pissy about the codeword for the Bin Laden operation: Geronimo.

http://www.freep.com/comments/article/2 ... under-fire

Boo frickin' HOO.

I think someone should grow up and quit bein' asinine.

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Re: Native Americans upset at Bin Laden codeword.

Postby Brian S » Wed May 04, 2011 4:38 pm

machine shop tom wrote:I think someone should grow up and quit bein' asinine.tom


Same goes for the Pakistanis bitching about the US military taking out Bin Laden.
Not that I was surprised...historically Muslims are extremely thin skinned.

The eternal flame of Muslim outrage
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Every blogger worth his salt knows “Islamic Rage Boy.” He represents the professional Muslim grievance-monger, always at the ready to protest whatever manufactured insult could be exploited to curse the West. Christopher Hitchens wrote on the futility of appeasing the worldwide Rage Boy mob — a theme I’ve struck here for years, which bears repeating as we prepare to mark the 9th anniversary of 9/11, and which I reiterate in my syndicated column today. We didn’t start the fire.

Shhhhhhh, we’re told. Don’t protest the Ground Zero mosque. Don’t burn a Koran. It’ll imperil the troops. It’ll inflame tensions. The “Muslim world” will “explode” if it does not get its way, warns sharia-peddling imam Feisal Abdul Rauf. Pardon my national security-threatening impudence, but when is the “Muslim world” not ready to “explode”?

At the risk of provoking the ever-volatile Religion of Perpetual Outrage, let us count the little-noticed and forgotten ways.

Just a few months ago in Kashmir, faithful Muslims rioted over what they thought was a mosque depicted on underwear sold by street vendors. The mob shut down businesses and clashed with police over the blasphemous skivvies. But it turned out there was no need for Allah’s avengers to get their holy knickers in a bunch. The alleged mosque was actually a building resembling London’s St. Paul’s Cathedral. A Kashmiri law enforcement official later concluded the protests were “premeditated and organized to vitiate the atmosphere.”
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Indeed, art and graphics have an uncanny way of vitiating the Muslim world’s atmosphere. In 1994, Muslims threatened German supermodel Claudia Schiffer with death after she wore a Karl Lagerfeld-designed dress printed with a saying from the Koran. In 1997, outraged Muslims forced Nike to recall 800,000 shoes because they claimed the company’s “Air” logo looked like the Arabic script for “Allah.” In 1998, another conflagration spread over Unilever’s ice cream logo — which Muslims claimed looked like “Allah” if read upside-down and backward (can’t recall what they said it resembled if you viewed it with 3D glasses).

Even more explosively, in 2002, an al-Qaida-linked jihadist cell plotted to blow up Bologna, Italy’s Church of San Petronio because it displayed a 15th century fresco depicting Mohammed being tormented in the ninth circle of Hell. For years, Muslims had demanded that the art come down. Counterterrorism officials in Europe caught the would-be bombers on tape scouting out the church and exclaiming, “May Allah bring it all down. It will all come down.”
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That same year, Nigerian Muslims stabbed, bludgeoned or burned to death 200 people in protest of the Miss World beauty pageant — which they considered an affront to Allah. They shouted, “Allahu Akbar!” And “Down with beauty!” And “Miss World is sin!” Contest organizers fled out of fear of inflaming further destruction. When Nigerian journalist Isioma Daniel joked that Mohammed would have approved of the pageant and that “in all honesty, he would probably have chosen a wife from among them,” her newspaper rushed to print three retractions and apologies in a row. It didn’t stop Muslim vigilantes from torching the newspaper’s offices. A fatwa was issued on Daniel’s life by a Nigerian official in the sharia-ruled state of Zamfara, who declared that “the blood of Isioma Daniel can be shed. It is abiding on all Muslims wherever they are to consider the killing of the writer as a religious duty.” Daniel fled to Norway.
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In 2005, British Muslims got all hot and bothered over a Burger King ice cream cone container whose swirly-texted label resembled, you guessed it, the Arabic script for “Allah.” The restaurant chain yanked the product in a panic and prostrated itself before the Muslim world. But the fast-food dessert had already become a handy radical Islamic recruiting tool. Rashad Akhtar, a young British Muslim, told Harper’s Magazine how the ice cream caper had inspired him: “Even though it means nothing to some people and may mean nothing to some Muslims in this country, this is my jihad. I’m not going to rest until I find the person who is responsible. I’m going to bring this country down.”

In 2007, Muslims combusted again in Sudan after an infidel elementary school teacher innocently named a classroom teddy bear “Mohammed.” Protesters chanted, “Kill her, kill her by firing squad!” and “No tolerance — execution!” She was arrested, jailed and faced 40 lashes for blasphemy before being freed after eight days. Not wanting to cause further inflammation, the teacher rushed to apologize: “I have great respect for the Islamic religion and would not knowingly offend anyone, and I am sorry if I caused any distress.”

And who could forget the global Danish cartoon riots of 2006 (instigated by imams who toured Egypt stoking hysteria with faked anti-Islam comic strips)? From Afghanistan to Egypt to Lebanon to Libya, Pakistan, Turkey and in between, hundreds died under the pretext of protecting Mohammed from Western slight, and brave journalists who stood up to the madness were threatened with beheading. It wasn’t really about the cartoons at all, of course. Little-remembered is the fact that Muslim bullies were attempting to pressure Denmark over the International Atomic Energy Agency’s decision to report Iran to the UN Security Council for continuing with its nuclear research program. The chairmanship of the council was passing to Denmark at the time. Yes, it was just another in a long line of manufactured Muslim explosions that were, to borrow a useful phrase, “premeditated and organized to vitiate the atmosphere.”

When everything from sneakers to stuffed animals to comics to frescos to beauty queens to fast-food packaging to undies serves as dry tinder for Allah’s avengers, it’s a grand farce to feign concern about the recruitment effect of a few burnt Korans in the hands of a two-bit attention-seeker in Florida. The eternal flame of Muslim outrage was lit a long, long time ago.
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Re: Native Americans upset at Bin Laden codeword.

Postby mike walsh » Wed May 04, 2011 6:24 pm

Thank you Brian.
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Re: Native Americans upset at Bin Laden codeword.

Postby MadBill » Wed May 04, 2011 6:49 pm

Anyone tried a Bin Laden cocktail? "Two shots and a splash."
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Re: Native Americans upset at Bin Laden codeword.

Postby machine shop tom » Wed May 04, 2011 7:05 pm

MadBill wrote:Anyone tried a Bin Laden cocktail? "Two shots and a splash."


~Quiet!~


You'll piss somebody off!


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Re: Native Americans upset at Bin Laden codeword.

Postby af2 » Wed May 04, 2011 7:50 pm

MadBill wrote:Anyone tried a Bin Laden cocktail? "Two shots and a splash."



Bill, I just choked on my beer!!!!!! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Native Americans upset at Bin Laden codeword.

Postby k-star » Wed May 04, 2011 8:08 pm

Bin laden didn't have a bath for 2 days before he was killed, he figured he would "wash up" on shore.


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Re: Native Americans upset at Bin Laden codeword.

Postby 1989TransAm » Wed May 04, 2011 9:35 pm

"Bin laden didn't have a bath for 2 days before he was killed, he figured he would "wash up" on shore"

Then again maybe he figured he would get "waterboarded".
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Re: Native Americans upset at Bin Laden codeword.

Postby Brian S » Wed May 04, 2011 10:22 pm

mike walsh wrote:Thank you Brian.


Yeah, well.....it just fries my ass when Hillary Clinton tells the world our country embraces all religions. No we don't. We simply tolerate all religions. They don't want any part of our beliefs and I absolutely don't want any part of theirs.

They're fortunate we have such a high regard for human life because if we didn't, if we believed what they do and acted upon it, you know the world would be a very different place. I'm tired of everyone bending over backwards every time they're offended...and it seems they're offended by everything.

Do you think they'd be any more offended if we didn't give this evil man an honorable burial at sea? If they want a proper burial...let Pakistan do it. Then we can't be blamed if it's done improperly and conspiracy theorist would have less reason to believe he were still alive.
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Re: Native Americans upset at Bin Laden codeword.

Postby rskrause » Wed May 04, 2011 10:32 pm

machine shop tom wrote:So now the Native Americans are getting all pissy about the codeword for the Bin Laden operation: Geronimo.

http://www.freep.com/comments/article/2 ... under-fire

Boo frickin' HOO.

I think someone should grow up and quit bein' asinine.

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I understand why they might be upset about that.

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Re: Native Americans upset at Bin Laden codeword.

Postby Stan Weiss » Wed May 04, 2011 11:12 pm

rskrause wrote:
machine shop tom wrote:So now the Native Americans are getting all pissy about the codeword for the Bin Laden operation: Geronimo.

http://www.freep.com/comments/article/2 ... under-fire

Boo frickin' HOO.

I think someone should grow up and quit bein' asinine.

tom


I understand why they might be upset about that.

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Tom bitches about 2 1/2 year of this President. While the Native Americans have been screwed by the government for centuries.

"What is the history of Thanksgiving in United States? The initial "Thanksgiving" feast, held in 1621, was really a traditional English harvest celebration. The Pilgrims shared it with the Native Americans because they had taught the colonists to plants crops and hunt wild game. Without the Native Americans, the Pilgrims may not have survived the harsh winter and been able to celebrate their first harvest of plentiful crops in the New World."

Look at what the Native Americans got for their helping out.

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Re: Native Americans upset at Bin Laden codeword.

Postby mike walsh » Thu May 05, 2011 5:45 am

Brian S wrote:
mike walsh wrote:Thank you Brian.



Do you think they'd be any more offended if we didn't give this evil man an honorable burial at sea? If they want a proper burial...let Pakistan do it. Then we can't be blamed if it's done improperly and conspiracy theorist would have less reason to believe he were still alive.

I believe short of letting the middle eastern muslem finatics run around like wild animals will inflame them. It wouldn't matter if they had buried Usama to the neck and stoned his head until dead, it'd still be a problem and America would be the bad guy.
We would have a different story if the Taliban(or other terrorist orginization) went after our politicians and left the general population alone..........that end of world would still be glowing.
I would like to see video of the burial at sea.
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Re: Native Americans upset at Bin Laden codeword.

Postby Brian S » Thu May 05, 2011 6:52 pm

mike walsh wrote:It wouldn't matter if they had buried Usama to the neck and stoned his head until dead, it'd still be a problem and America would be the bad guy. I would like to see video of the burial at sea.


Of course we're the bad guys. The Pakistanis are shouting "Death to America", "Death to Obama". BHO's alleged conversion to Christianity carries the death penalty in Muslim countries. Does the president really think they are his friends...and our allies? Do they have to throw a couple shoes at his head before he figures this out?

We should be pissed at them, they were harboring this fugitive. Then to bury him according to their traditions...wrapping him in a cloth and easing his body into the sea, treating the mass murdering tyrant with all this respect. The victim's families and friends of 9/11 thought this was disrespectful to them. This would have been a more fitting end...Hollywood style.
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And I'm glad Bush turned down the invitation to ground zero. Why should the ex-president stand there and listen to BHO take all the credit for this after he's blamed Bush for everything over the last five years? Bush has already congratulated him for the success of the mission and has taken the high road by not criticizing Obama's policies.
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Re: Native Americans upset at Bin Laden codeword.

Postby Brian S » Thu May 05, 2011 9:35 pm

Stan Weiss wrote:"What is the history of Thanksgiving in United States? The initial "Thanksgiving" feast, held in 1621, was really a traditional English harvest celebration. The Pilgrims shared it with the Native Americans because they had taught the colonists to plants crops and hunt wild game. Without the Native Americans, the Pilgrims may not have survived the harsh winter and been able to celebrate their first harvest of plentiful crops in the New World."

Look at what the Native Americans got for their helping out. Stan


That's the version we were told in school. It may be factual, it's hard to know since none of us were there. The story I've read since then is that it was a costly experiment and failure of collectivism.

The Real Thanksgiving Story

In the middle of December 1620 the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock, leaving behind the sinfulness of the “old world” to make a “new Jerusalem” in America. Three years later, in November 1623, they had a great feast thanking God for getting them through an earlier famine, and now for a bountiful crop.

What had created the earlier famine and then the bountiful crops? The story is told in the diary of Governor Bradford, who was one of the elders of that early Puritan colony.

At first, they decided to turn their back on all the institutions of the England that had been their home. This included the institution of private property, which they declared to be the basis of greed, averse, and selfishness. Instead, they were determined to live the “Platonic ideal” of collectivism, in which all work would be done in common, with the rewards of their collective efforts evenly divided among the colonists. Farming was done in common, as well as housekeeping and child raising. This was supposed to lead to prosperity and brotherly love.

But their experiment in collectivism did not lead to prosperity or brotherly love. Rather, it created poverty and envy and slothfulness among most of the members of this little society. Here is Bradford’s description of what communism created among the Pilgrims:

“The experience that was had in this common course and condition, tried sundry years and that amongst godly and sober men, may well evince the vanity of that conceit of Plato's and other ancients applauded by some of later times; that the taking away of property and bringing in community into a commonwealth would make them happy and flourishing; as if they were wiser than God. For this community was found to breed much confusion and discontent and retard much employment that would have been to their benefit and comfort. For the young men, that were most able and fit for labor and service, did repine that they should spend their time and strength to work for other men's wives and children without any recompense. The strong… had no more in division of victuals and clothes than he that was weak and not able to do a quarter the other could; this was thought injustice. The aged and graver men to be ranked and equalized in labors everything else, thought it some indignity and disrespect unto them.

“And for men's wives to be commanded to do service for other men, as dressing their meat, washing their clothes, etc., they deemed it a kind of slavery, neither could many husbands well brook it. Upon the point all being to have alike, and all to do alike, they thought themselves in the like condition, and one as good as another; and so, if it did not cut off those relations that God hath set amongst men, yet it did at least much diminish and take off the mutual respects that should be preserved amongst them… Let none object this is men's corruption, and nothing to the course itself. I answer, seeing all men have this corruption in them, God in His wisdom saw another course fitter for them.”

For two years the harvest time failed to bring forth enough to feed the people. Indeed, many starved and many died of famine. Faced with this disaster, the elders of the colony gathered, Governor Bradford tells us, and decided that another year, and they would surely all die and disappear in the wilderness.

Instead, they decided to divide the property and fields of the colony, and gave each family a piece as their own. Whatever they did not use for their own consumption, they had the right to trade away to their neighbors for something they desired instead.

Now, instead of sloth, envy, resentment, and anger among the colonists, there was a great turnaround in their activities. Industry, effort, and joy were now seen in practically all that the men, women and children did. Bradford writes:

“They had very good success, for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been. The women now went willingly into the field, and took their little ones with them to set corn; which before would allege weakness and inability; whom to have compelled would have been thought great tyranny and oppression…By this time harvest was come, and instead of famine, now God gave them plenty, and the faces of things were changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many, for which they blessed God.”

Indeed, their bounty was so great, that they had enough to not only trade among themselves but also with the neighboring Indians in the forest. In November 1623, they had a great feast to which they also invited the Indians. They prepared turkey and corn, and much more, and thanked God for bringing them a bountiful crop. They, therefore, set aside a day of “Thanksgiving.”

So this Thursday, when we all sit down with our families and friends to enjoy the turkey and the trimmings, let us not forget that we are celebrating the establishment and triumph of capitalism and the spirit of enterprise in America!
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Re: Native Americans upset at Bin Laden codeword.

Postby Stan Weiss » Fri May 06, 2011 9:26 am

Brian S wrote:
Stan Weiss wrote:"What is the history of Thanksgiving in United States? The initial "Thanksgiving" feast, held in 1621, was really a traditional English harvest celebration. The Pilgrims shared it with the Native Americans because they had taught the colonists to plants crops and hunt wild game. Without the Native Americans, the Pilgrims may not have survived the harsh winter and been able to celebrate their first harvest of plentiful crops in the New World."

Look at what the Native Americans got for their helping out. Stan


That's the version we were told in school. It may be factual, it's hard to know since none of us were there. The story I've read since then is that it was a costly experiment and failure of collectivism.

The Real Thanksgiving Story

In the middle of December 1620 the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock, leaving behind the sinfulness of the “old world” to make a “new Jerusalem” in America. Three years later, in November 1623, they had a great feast thanking God for getting them through an earlier famine, and now for a bountiful crop.

What had created the earlier famine and then the bountiful crops? The story is told in the diary of Governor Bradford, who was one of the elders of that early Puritan colony.



http://www.mayflowerhistory.com/History ... giving.php

The 1621 Thanksgiving

There are only two contemporary accounts of the 1621 Thanksgiving: First is Edward Winslow's account, which he wrote in a letter dated December 12, 1621. The complete letter was first published in 1622.

The second description was written about twenty years after the fact by William Bradford

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