Student Gets 100 Days In Slammer For Registering Dead Voters

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Re: Student Gets 100 Days In Slammer For Registering Dead Voters

Post by sanfordandson » Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:33 am

Sounds like machine dave just wrote a check his ass cant cash..

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Re: Student Gets 100 Days In Slammer For Registering Dead Voters

Post by machinedave » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:12 am

I should have said a county in the iron range area that had precincts with over 100% turnout instead of counties with over 100% turnout. It was the Norm Colman/Al Franken election that had Colman winning by a very slim margin until the recount (surprise surprise) gave the win to Franken.

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Re: Student Gets 100 Days In Slammer For Registering Dead Voters

Post by dirtracr5 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:35 am

I live in MN and never heard anything about over 100% voter turnout in any race at any time.

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Re: Student Gets 100 Days In Slammer For Registering Dead Voters

Post by mk e » Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:43 pm

machinedave wrote:I should have said a county in the iron range area that had precincts with over 100% turnout instead of counties with over 100% turnout. It was the Norm Colman/Al Franken election that had Colman winning by a very slim margin until the recount (surprise surprise) gave the win to Franken.
Do you have a link? No secretary of state would certify an election with such an obvious problem and I couldn't find anything that supports your claim so I'm wondering what you are basing it on?

I do find some question about 352 felons voting and the victory margin 312 or something like that so in theory if all 352 voted Franken it would have chafed the result....but there is no way to know if it did and he's since won re-election so its moot at this point other than there should be a system to prevent it.

Interestingly most "fraud" is this type where people are registered who shouldn't be, so the most popular "fix"of requiring voter id won't help this problem.
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Re: Student Gets 100 Days In Slammer For Registering Dead Voters

Post by David Redszus » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:59 pm

As a youngster, I worked for a Chicago precinct captain to help fix elections. Ballot boxes were stuffed before the polls even opened. Precincts who voted the wrong way often had ballot boxes disappear later to be found empty.
Ghetto precinct vote count often exceeded the registered voters. If the excess votes were too high and might arouse suspicion, some ballots were removed to make the count seem reasonable. Reasonable if you consider 99% of the vote going to Democraps. Vote fraud complaints were turned over to a Democrap states attorney, a democrap chairman of the election commission, or complaints were heard before a Democrap judge.

If you don't live in Chicago, you simply can't imagine.

Chicago is famous for its history of people voting from the grave and for helping President John F. Kennedy "steal" the 1960 election. (JFK beat Richard Nixon by 9,000 votes in Illinois by capturing what some considered a suspiciously high 450,000 advantage in Cook County.)

The city's election history is even crazier than most people realize, though, with Republican feuds leading to homes being bombed and names being stolen from tombstones just to get extra votes for the "Democratic Machine." The city's old "reputation is true" said Dick Simpson, a political science professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

During the 1928 primary election, shootings and bombings were used to frighten and eliminate opponents. That election — which saw two political figures killed and 62 bombings, including one at the home of a senator and Cook County State's Attorney candidate — became known as the "Pineapple Primary," using the slang term "pineapple" for a grenade.

It was Mayor Anton Cermak, the first in an unbroken stream of Democratic mayors since 1931, who created what would became known as the infamous "Democratic Machine. The Machine ensured voters picked the right candidates, and the people who worked in it weren't shy about using money, bribes or fake identities to get votes for Democrats.

Through decades of organization, the Machine would become a "monolithic political organization that crisscrossed racial and ethnic boundaries in the city." The Machine's operators took advantage of cynicism among voters, who figured they at least had clean water and other necessities thanks to the Machine-backed candidates, leading to systemic fraud. Did I mention the fixing of traffic tickets in exchange for votes?

And the people involved in the Machine didn't just cheat to win — they cheated so they could get major victories that could give their candidates a "mandate" and discourage potential opponents from rival parties from running for office.

The Machine operated for decades, but it was Mayor Richard J. Daley (who held office from 1955 to 1976) who mastered it. In fact, Robert F. Kennedy once said Daley was "the whole ballgame" — meaning if candidates had Daley and his Machine on their side, they could carry all of Illinois. Notably, the Daley-era Machine has been shown to have "stolen" the presidential election for JFK, Robert's older brother, through voter fraud.

Here are a few of the tricks the Machine used:
• Electoral rolls are supposed to keep track of who is registered to vote. The rolls would be rigged so dead people's names still appeared on them, meaning others could vote for the candidate of their choice in the dead person's name. Sometimes, people working for the Machine would even go into cemeteries and take the names off of tombstones, then go back and fill out voter registration cards with the dead person's names as if they were still alive.

• Election judges are supposed to keep an eye out for anything fishy at the polls. Republicans had a small presence in the city, though, and it was difficult to find Republican volunteers for the post.
Democrats would pretend to be Republicans and would volunteer, meaning there were actually two Democrats at polling places. Officers who provided security got their jobs from the Machine and weren't going to say anything about what happened.

• People would be promised $5, a warm meal or a drink at the local pub to vote for the "right" people.
Sometimes, the precinct captain would steal a ballot, mark it and give it to someone to turn in. That person would then bring the blank ballot they'd been given at the polling place back to the captain, who'd fill it out for the next person to come in, and so on.

An old sewer boss, Ed Quigley, had a special way to make sure people voted the right way: When a voter would go behind a curtain to cast his or her ballot, they had to move to one side to vote for a Democrat or the other side to vote for a Republican. Quigley would look under the curtain at the voter's feet to make sure they were on the Democratic side.

• No Republicans to watch for suspicious activity in the precinct? The Democratic precinct captain would just vote for people who didn't come in.

• Ward committeemen would go to nursing homes and "help" senior people with marking absentee ballots by holding the voter's hand. Nursing homes would cooperate because they needed a good relationship with the city, which inspects them.

Nowadays, the machine is careful that the vote count does not exceed the number of registered voters.
But, curiously, the number of registered voters now exceeds the number of residents in several precincts.

Ya can't beat City Hall.

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Re: Student Gets 100 Days In Slammer For Registering Dead Voters

Post by Dave Koehler » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:52 am

David Redszus wrote:
We have been hearing for years that there is no voter fraud by many people and even secretary's of state that we have no election fraud. My state has huge voter fraud problems. We had some counties with a higher that 100% voter turnout.
Here in Chicago we have absolutely NO voter fraud. We never had any fraud and could not possibly
have any because the election controls are so good. The Election Commission is controlled by the
Democrap party who take their mission very seriously. There is no fraud. We are fair and open minded.
We think it is OK for recently deceased to vote, as long as they vote for the right party.
We think it is OK for a precinct to produce 110-125% of the registered voting population; registration
is always a little behind.
We think non-citizens not only are allowed to vote, but they must vote or will be deported.
We think it is very important for each and every precinct captain to produce enough votes to win in
order to keep his city job and maintain continuity of government and control.
We remind our judges that they are elected by popular vote and not bite the hands that feed them.
We think that if other areas of the country simply adopted Chicago voting procedures, they would be
much happier and prosperous.
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