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Post by Dave Koehler » Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:10 pm

I noticed what I believe to be a change in uploading photos.
I can download directly from my computer using the attachment feature to the For Sale section.
I cannot do this in the other forums and have to host the picture offsite.
The attachment feature is not available there.
Has it always been this way or has it changed when we got fired up again?
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Re: Adding photos

Post by In-Tech » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:49 pm

Hi Dave,
I noticed it after the forum came back. I assumed it was to relieve the server of some space in all areas except the buy/sell and tech conversations. :-?
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Re: Adding photos

Post by Kevin Johnson » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:02 pm

It does vary by forum even in the tech area. I tried using Firefox vs Chrome and did not see a difference.

All in all the small difficulties here don't hold a candle to the massive issues with security firm consultants getting involved with websites. OMG(osh)

I hate it when it appears that change is happening just for the sake of change. Maybe people are busy looking busy.

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Re: Adding photos

Post by Dave Koehler » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:46 am

The only downside to outside hosting is that more often than not they disappear over time, the links go dead and we are left with some blanks in the story/thread.
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Re: Adding photos

Post by In-Tech » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:17 pm

^^^^ Yes, and I think that is why we are all trying to "give" to the site so it remains as it was. Hopefully enough donations could allow a full time moderator to be paid for his/her time so bots nor inappropriate material is posted.
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Re: Adding photos

Post by hoodeng » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:14 pm

In danger of sounding repetitive of previous posts↑↑↑ ,,, i would agree ' a picture speaks a thousand words' .I had a couple of gems to pin in a recent post .The moment is lost.

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Re: Adding photos

Post by exhaustgases » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:27 pm

Dave Koehler wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:46 am
The only downside to outside hosting is that more often than not they disappear over time, the links go dead and we are left with some blanks in the story/thread.
Yes........ And there is no reason to have to post outside, how much are multi tera byte drives now yes its modern times and no more floppys etc? It is a joke wasting space showing a cats face from a defunct link, than having the original photo. No picture is better than line after line of cat faces.

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Post by Kevin Johnson » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:17 pm

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Re: Adding photos

Post by Kevin Johnson » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:26 pm

Ok, per my immediately previous post ^^^^^^, an easier solution is to post the image in (say) the Show and Tell forum and then copy the image address by right clicking on the image with your mouse.

Paste the address in your new post in whatever forum (even where attachments are not allowed) and use the following html code:

Image Hint: Respond to this message using "quote" and you will be able to see the underlying html codes/syntax.

Et voila !

Just use a title in the hosting forum that describes the purpose of the thread/post-in-the-thread so that confusion doesn't reign (just a work-around).

In this way, the image is stored on the server hosting Speed Talk so that the link/image should be good so long as the site is still up.

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Re: Adding photos

Post by Dave Koehler » Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:24 am

exhaustgases wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:27 pm
Dave Koehler wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:46 am
The only downside to outside hosting is that more often than not they disappear over time, the links go dead and we are left with some blanks in the story/thread.
Yes........ And there is no reason to have to post outside, how much are multi tera byte drives now yes its modern times and no more floppys etc? It is a joke wasting space showing a cats face from a defunct link, than having the original photo. No picture is better than line after line of cat faces.
Actually there is a reason. The board owners likely do not do this on their own computers. They pay a host a yearly fee for space on their servers.
Some can be a bit pricey per space used. A popular board can use up a LOT of space.
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Re: Adding photos

Post by Dave Koehler » Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:37 am

I may have jumped too soon on my photo attachment issue.
I want to amend that with this info.
I went back sub forum by sub forum to see where the feature "attachments" was not available.
These include
Advanced Tech: Surprised by this and this is where my question originated.

General Discussion: Kind of surprised but it's not heavily traveled and Don may have found a reason not to allow it.

Politics: Not surprised and think it should stay that way. It's already a black hole.

So I was in error. I don't think now that anything changed. Just never ran into the issue before.
I would advocate adding the attachment feature to the Advanced Tech section.
Politics leave it as is.
General: leave as is. I suspect the real reason is that is it is an easy target to spam bots.
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Re: Adding photos

Post by Kevin Johnson » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:50 am

Dave,
The attachment option used to be active in the Advanced Engine Tech forum; an example from three years ago is below:

https://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 44#p624943 Scroll down to see the attachments.

Way back when Speed Talk was started, other functions were available*. Over the years the website software was updated and various effects became noticeable. I noticed because I ran a BBS with 5 (five !) dedicated land lines coming into our home about thirty years ago and more recently (15 years ago) had to learn how to manipulate the code on my subsequent website after the original program was no longer supported.

I used the wrong terminology when calling Image html. It is from the templating engine used in the website software.

* Here is an example from 2005: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=597#p3287 Scroll down until you see the code attachment.

I know that you and I don't mind linking to pictures that we host (and pay for the server storage) but some other sites get ticked off that they are being used parasitically with no reimbursement for bandwidth used.

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Re: Adding photos

Post by Ken0069 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:59 pm

Yup, a lot of stuff changed after the board came back up and picture hosting is one of them, along with the 30 minute delete option in the politics, religion and current events section.

FYI, on Motorsportsvillage.com/forum I set it up NOT to allow picture uploads to the server simply because of the size of all those files. And yes, the more room you take up, the more it costs so most all the photos on MSV were hosted on Photo Bucket back then.

I've got my own picture storage folder on kenrutledge.com and I have hosted some of what I post there in the past but since ST came back up, I've only been posting pics that I find already on the web somewhere else and just copying and pasting a link here.
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Re: Adding photos

Post by exhaustgases » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:30 pm

Wouldn't it be cheaper so have your own dedicated server than to pay to host the site?

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Re: Adding photos

Post by Dave Koehler » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:56 pm

only if you want a slow connection.
Pro Hosting services have big money invested in hardware and connections to a T1 line or better.
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