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What has happened to proper nomenclature

Post by exhaustgases » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:34 am

The one that kills me is "Oil Galley" there is no such thing. Its a GALLERY. A galley is a kitchen on an airplane, ship, camper, or navel base.
I see modern professional publications and so many others that should know better using the improper word "galley" instead of "gallery".
I'm sorry I guess its an age thing, and the machinist in me desiring accuracy.

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Post by joe 90 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:08 am

Keep going..........

hydraulic tensioners that aren't hydraulic (auto tensioners for cambelts).
Harmonic balancers that don't balance (harmonic dampers).
Lifters that don't lift (OHC with finger followers).

There's plenty more.


All due to the uneducated masses.


How about "run a bearing"?

Or is it

"Spun a bearing"?

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Post by VMC » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:32 am

That and mis-spellings...ugh!

How about...

--"for sell" instead of "for sale"?

--"truck" instead of "trunk"?

--"Elderbrock" (or any other number of variants) instead of "Edelbrock"?

--"Holly" instead of "Holley"?

--"Weiland" instead of "Weiand"?--where did the "l" come from?--and people pronouncing it "wee-and"?--didn't their old ads actually have "Say 'why-and'" on them?

--"Vortex" instead of "Vortec"?

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Post by GLHS60 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:12 pm

They sure did!!

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Post by Ken0069 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:42 pm

THERE= a place. not here - THEIR= belongs to them - THEY'RE = short for "They Are". THEN = a point in time; not now. - THAN = used to compare things.
Something AFFECTS you. You have an EFFECT on something. If something is LOOSE you might LOSE it. Your=belongs to "you" You're short for "you are"
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Post by RevTheory » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:57 pm

I grew up hearing oil "galley" so "gallery" sounds funny to me. Of course, I loathe hearing someone say they're building a "motor"! "Hey man, what motor do you got in there?" :evil: But then again, how dumb would you sound if you said you had an "enginehome" with an "enginecycle" on the back :lol:

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Post by woody b » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:22 pm

There's a bunch of good ones listed. Sometimes made up words, (or maid up words lol) become commonplace. One that I'll never accept (or except) is the common use of "flied" out in baseball. I believe "flied" was accepted (or excepted) because announcers just kept using a non existent word. It should be "flew" out.....but my chimney has a flue. .........and way too many people around here call a chimney and chimley. Google is a company, but it's commonly used to mean "search on the internet" for something. "What time does the Sun set today?" "I don't know, I'll google it".

Some word usage is probably regional. "Ain't" is a normal part of my vocabulary but, at least when I was in School it wasn't even recognized as a work. "Y'all" is a normal part of my vocabulary too. (or to, or two)


It aggravates me when someone calls an engine a motor, or refers to cast iron heads (or block) as "steel". (or steal, or stihl) Is "Stihl" a word or just a company name.

There's "Deer" in the woods behind my house. My wife is dear to me. My mower is a John Deere. (why the e at the end???? to prevent a lawsuit from some deer?)

I get a kick out of all this stuff. My grammar, word usage, or nomenclature if far from perfect. It's OK with me if people laugh when make the wrong choice. Life's too short to not be able to laugh at ourselves.


Important to remember though. The person who proof read Hitler's speeches was truly a grammar Nazi.
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Post by RevTheory » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:42 pm

I hear ya, woody. My grandma "fixes" corn for supper. "Ya'll member awallago when we fixed catfish?" My neighbor grows "d'madas" in her garden. My uncle just changed the ooooool in his Cummings and I ain't shittin' ya none now neither!

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Post by Walter R. Malik » Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:06 pm

exhaustgases wrote:The one that kills me is "Oil Galley" there is no such thing. Its a GALLERY. A galley is a kitchen on an airplane, ship, camper, or navel base.
I see modern professional publications and so many others that should know better using the improper word "galley" instead of "gallery".
I'm sorry I guess its an age thing, and the machinist in me desiring accuracy.
How about the easy one here ...?

The difference between a MOTOR and an ENGINE.

In this profession, the internet has made everyone experts and they all pick the the phrases or words they wish to use whether is has the correct definition or not.

The same thing happens in all other parts of society.

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Post by lefty o » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:49 pm

i hang out on gun forums too, and the worst has to be muzzle brake, all the tards cant get it through their skulls they dont want a muzzle break! #-o

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Post by GLHS60 » Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:41 am

Engine and motor are my pet peeves.

The term motoring means to travel in a powered vehicle hence motorcycle etc.

Ford Motor Company makes powered vehicles that travel, not just Engines.

And it doesn't go both ways, I never heard anyone ever tell me my furnace needs a new Engine!!

Mobil 1 motor oil keeps your Engine Running Like New!!

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Post by woody b » Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:02 pm

lefty o wrote:i hang out on gun forums too, and the worst has to be muzzle brake, all the tards cant get it through their skulls they dont want a muzzle break! #-o
What about calling magazines "clips", and calling malfunctions "jams".
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Post by PackardV8 » Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:04 pm

Random thoughts:

As Mark Twain said,
The difference between the almost right word and the right word is really a large matter—'tis the difference between the lightning-bug and the lightning.
A smartphone isn't a word processor; rather an "intention guesstimator" and has relieved the instant gratification contingent of even a cursory responsibility to proofread before sending. Thus, there's no obligation to read or respond to gibberish; they don't care, we don't care.
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Post by exhaustgases » Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:43 pm

joe 90 wrote:Keep going..........

hydraulic tensioners that aren't hydraulic (auto tensioners for cambelts).
Harmonic balancers that don't balance (harmonic dampers).
Lifters that don't lift (OHC with finger followers).

There's plenty more.


All due to the uneducated masses.


How about "run a bearing"?

Or is it

"Spun a bearing"?
If you define balance and all its meanings yes a harmonic balancer does fit. If I remember correctly even the old shop manuals call it that.
People of that day actually knew the proper nomenclature, and never pushed on a break pedal in their cars.

There, Their, They're hmmmm I don't think that's nomenclature.

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Re: What has happened to proper nomenclature

Post by PackardV8 » Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:01 pm

If you define balance and all its meanings yes a harmonic balancer does fit. If I remember correctly even the old shop manuals call it that.
Some (neutral balance) are dampeners. Some with counterweights, are balancers; same with flywheels, flexplates, torque converters.
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