Don Terrill’s Speed-Talk

Rick360 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:16 am

TheSwed wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:23 am Hi Marcus here. I would just like to say that we had an EPIC!! time at engine masters. And especially thanks to team Creason. What a great bunch of pepole, I hope didn`t kill Ricks mod for bbq forever after my tour in maybe not the best area of Lima
And all you others
Adney Brown,Gene Adams/Smithberg, Jon Kaase, and all the others that I certainly forgotten you guys rock.
I think Johan will come on here and say the same.
This has been a dream come true.

Thanks from Marcus Team LRE.

That was Randy, not me, that you took on the scenic bbq tour of Lima. lol

We had a great time there at EMC and visiting with the LRE team. Lot's of great people and interesting engines. Jon Kaase stands out as an incredibly smart man yet so humble. Nice induction system from Nick Smithberg. My hats off to Adger and RJ for a great job too.

Thanks to all,
Rick

TheSwed wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:55 pm Randy of course my bad. Super fun tour though

TheSwed wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:55 pm I was just there with my looks and beer drinking skill.

John Wallace wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:45 am Good job, Marcus!



Can you tell me more about your engine?

moparjohan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:32 am
What would you like to know?

moparjohan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:32 am

Mr Wallace
Marcus is being humble, he has thought me more than he is willing to admit. and I´m starting to wonder about that "chevy nerd" thing all he talked about when we was in the U.S was Dodge, Dodge, Dodge

What would you like to know?
it is a std stroke Chrysler 318 with CP-pistons 3.94" bore, piston rings Top:1/16 Sec:1/16 Oil:3mm.
Eagle Crank, Eagle SIR rods, std oil pump, factory pick-up, factory windage tray, Heads Iron #302 2.02-1.6 valves.
Nothing fancy, is it something more specific you would like to know? feel free to ask.

Johan

RAMM wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:37 am

moparjohan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:32 am

Mr Wallace
Marcus is being humble, he has thought me more than he is willing to admit. and I´m starting to wonder about that "chevy nerd" thing all he talked about when we was in the U.S was Dodge, Dodge, Dodge

What would you like to know?
it is a std stroke Chrysler 318 with CP-pistons 3.94" bore, piston rings Top:1/16 Sec:1/16 Oil:3mm.
Eagle Crank, Eagle SIR rods, std oil pump, factory pick-up, factory windage tray, Heads Iron #302 2.02-1.6 valves.
Nothing fancy, is it something more specific you would like to know? feel free to ask.

Johan

Well done on your first EMC and trip to the USA. What cam/rockers did you use? Why the '302 heads and not something more mainstream like EQ iron or Edelbrock? Just curious. Again congrats and well done. J.Rob
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Thanks it was a real fun experience, and it was fantastic meeting all these guys that I looked up to for so many years .

First of all I think the combustion chambers of the #302 are better, I need the support from the chamber at 7 o´clock (if you understand what I mean).
The next thing is that I think the EQ & Edelbrocks are to big (at there largest points so to say), I wanted a port that changed as little as possible in area.
(But I should say that Im thinking about trying some EQ now.)

I also would like to say that this concept is nothing I usual would do, its a theory, my way of thinking outside the box if you will.
I was accepted to participate in 2008 EMC but didn't make it then, but still had everything laying around at the shop and I thought it would probably work with these rules as well (never thought it would work this well)
I had 4 camshafts laying around this one was the largest, and when this years rules said 3500-6800rpm instead of 2500-6500rpm I just went with that.
The Camshaft is therefore @.050" In:252 Ex:245 ,Sep:101 Installed:101, the rockers are IN 1.6:1 EX 1.5:1 ,
Lift In .515" (1.6:1 -lash)
Lift Ex .556" (1.5:1 -lash)

We didn't have the time to try anything before shipping it so now Im just real anxious to start testing some stuff

Thanks once again
Johan Lindstrom

randy331 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:27 am

moparjohan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:32 am
What would you like to know?

What cam lobes and rocker ratio did it have ?

I just want to make sure I got it right when we were talkin about it at the EMC.

Randy

moparjohan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:26 am


The lobes are Comp Cams 6235 on intake(MA) and 6579 on exhaust (MM) .
1.6:1 In 1.5:1 Ex.
that makes @.050" 252in & 245ex , .515"In .556"Ex (-lash) sep 101 In 101.
as I said to J.Rob this is nothing I normally do it is me thinking outside the box.
and Im real anxious start testing & tuning it

Regards
Johan

randy331 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:09 am

moparjohan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:26 am


The lobes are Comp Cams 6235 on intake(MA) and 6579 on exhaust (MM) .
1.6:1 In 1.5:1 Ex.
that makes @.050" 252in & 245ex , .515"In .556"Ex (-lash) sep 101 In 101.
as I said to J.Rob this is nothing I normally do it is me thinking outside the box.
and Im real anxious start testing & tuning it

Regards
Johan

Bet there was score left with more lift.
I'm with Ramm (kinda lol) I say more lift and less duration. I'd want the lift at the limit of the rules.

Randy

moparjohan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:39 am

I`m thinking more duration same lift

The simple explanation to why I don´t want more lift is because Ive never seen a #302 head flow over .500" lift

Johan

randy331 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:53 am

moparjohan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:39 am

I`m thinking more duration same lift

The simple explanation to why I don´t want more lift is because Ive never seen a #302 head flow over .500" lift

Johan

I understand the theory, but in practice more rocker has helped almost everything I've put it on and hurt the power of none of them, even when the port didn't flow up at that lift.

Our EMC engine with a 1.8 rocker was short of the lift limit. Going to a 1.85 rocker was 50 points. That was about a .018" increase in lift.

I'd bet a 236-240 ish duration on a 106 LSA MH type lobes with enough rocker to get it to .600" would put score on your engine.

But,..I'm not a Mopar guy so I could be wrong.

I like your cubic inch choice for this years rules.

Randy

moparjohan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:20 am

randy331 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:53 am

moparjohan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:39 am

I`m thinking more duration same lift

The simple explanation to why I don´t want more lift is because Ive never seen a #302 head flow over .500" lift

Johan

I understand the theory, but in practice more rocker has helped almost everything I've put it on and hurt the power of none of them, even when the port didn't flow up at that lift.

Our EMC engine with a 1.8 rocker was short of the lift limit. Going to a 1.85 rocker was 50 points. That was about a .018" increase in lift.

I'd bet a 236-240 ish duration on a 106 LSA MH type lobes with enough rocker to get it to .600" would put score on your engine.

But,..I'm not a Mopar guy so I could be wrong.

I like your cubic inch choice for this years rules.

Randy

You are probably not wrong, Im trying to test something completely new here (for me anyway)
the problem is that I dont know of any LA rockers with more than 1.6 ratio, so the only way for me to get more lift is true a different lobe
(like the exhaust) but I dont think that would be favorable.
I would love to test a higher rocker ratio though.

Johan

Rick360 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:16 am

TheSwed wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:23 am Hi Marcus here. I would just like to say that we had an EPIC!! time at engine masters. And especially thanks to team Creason. What a great bunch of pepole, I hope didn`t kill Ricks mod for bbq forever after my tour in maybe not the best area of Lima
And all you others
Adney Brown,Gene Adams/Smithberg, Jon Kaase, and all the others that I certainly forgotten you guys rock.
I think Johan will come on here and say the same.
This has been a dream come true.

Thanks from Marcus Team LRE.

That was Randy, not me, that you took on the scenic bbq tour of Lima. lol

We had a great time there at EMC and visiting with the LRE team. Lot's of great people and interesting engines. Jon Kaase stands out as an incredibly smart man yet so humble. Nice induction system from Nick Smithberg. My hats off to Adger and RJ for a great job too.

Thanks to all,
Rick