EPA To Ban Conversion of Passanger Cars Into Race Cars

[nitro2]

Does anyone else find it sad that our important petition is only #2 on the petition list?
What is #1? See here. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions

100000+ signatures in 1 day, then only 47000 signatures in the next whole week. Probably won't get much past 200000 by the deadline. It just seems to me that the ruling, one way or the other, would have to affect a lot more than 200000 people in a pretty big way, but I could be wrong.

[Kevin Johnson]

Does anyone else find it sad that our important petition is only #2 on the petition list?
What is #1? See here. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions

100000+ signatures in 1 day, then only 47000 signatures in the next whole week. Probably won't get much past 200000 by the deadline. It just seems to me that the ruling, one way or the other, would have to affect a lot more than 200000 people in a pretty big way, but I could be wrong.

I spoke to a customer involved with a track earlier today and he was unaware of the controversy.

Earlier in the week I mentioned it in a classroom when a group of students discussed tuning engines with chips -- these were students specifically interested in engineering. Again, zero awareness.

[Walter R. Malik]

YES ... the EPA certainly does know how to be devious and sneak it past the general population.

This is the way they get most of their agenda by everyone ... underhandedness and sneaky.

[Zmechanic]

http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports ... lly-means/

Who knows if it's convenient backpedaling (very common) or internet mob-mentality frenzy run amok (also very common).

[Rizzle]

Does anyone else find it sad that our important petition is only #2 on the petition list?
What is #1? See here. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions

Get down to ~10K signatures mark, and they get weird.
#1 should not be #1.

[Kevin Johnson]

http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports ... lly-means/

Who knows if it's convenient backpedaling (very common) or internet mob-mentality frenzy run amok (also very common).

In the course of selecting cases for enforcement, the EPA has and will continue to consider whether the tampered vehicle is used exclusively for competition. The EPA remains primarily concerned with cases where the tampered vehicle is used on public roads, and more specifically with aftermarket manufacturers who sell devices that defeat emission control systems on vehicles used on public roads.

The EPA is limited in manpower and must choose enforcement cases. I suspect that when red-light cameras were first used the public did not anticipate that businesses would spring up that performed this service at considerable profit to themselves. Bounty hunters have long been a means to supplement law enforcement personnel but it is unlikely that license plate scanning technology was foreseen as a means to create a lucrative business.

Gosh, for the EPA to pursue at least hundreds of thousands of violators they would need some help. Maybe for a cut of the potential $37,500 fine?

Oh my, here is a timely article discussing the need for the EPA to enlist the services of whistleblowers to save the planet: http://lawdigitalcommons.bc.edu/cgi/vie ... 58&context

1-21-2015

Blowing the Whistle on Environmental Law: How
Congress Can Help the EPA Enlist Private
Resources in the Fight to Save the Planet

Christopher K. Warren
Boston College Law School, christopher.warren.2@bc.edu

Enjoy.

Never underestimate the power of cash money.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_light_camera
http://www.betaboston.com/news/2014/03/ ... -industry/

[MadBill]

Congress weighs in on our side: http://www.speedville.com/sema-applauds ... -vehicles/

[pdq67]

Is this shit dead and buried??

I ask because before I retired, I was involved with amending St. Louis's I/M rule so that, "kit-cars", were exempt and you talk about a hassle..

Here.

https://www.sos.mo.gov/CMSImages/AdRule ... 0c10-5.pdf

Specialty constructed vehicles, page 38 at "13"...

pdq67

[Walter R. Malik]

Congress asks some questions ..... Clearly the EPA is overstepping its authority

They certainly tried to slide it by everyone by putting in the regs for heavy vehicle laws. I guess they were hoping it was buried deep enough that someone wouldn't read and catch what they were definitely trying to intentionally do.

The backhanded EPA should be torn apart and abolished as it is ... and, something newly formed take its place.

[pdq67]

YES ... the EPA certainly does know how to be devious and sneak it past the general population.

This is the way they get most of their agenda by everyone ... underhandedness and sneaky.

Not at all BUT people HAVE to DAILY READ the Federal Register
and Code of Federal Regulations!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Register

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_F ... egulations

(Both links are from wiki so anybody that wants to can look into both of them!!)

Back before I retired from the MO Air Program, I read both daily to keep up on what the EPA was doing!

The EPA is required by Law to publish all that it proposes to do so that it is OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT by people like us IF we bother to read and keep up on what it is doing!

pdq67

PS., the EPA can --

"Propose", i.e., promulgate new rules;

"Amend" or change existing rules; and

Do away with, or, "Rescind", existing rules.

And I have done all three things above at one time or another at the MO State Air Program because I was in the, "Planning Section", of the APCP that did this stuff. Know all about it..

[Walter R. Malik]

YES ... the EPA certainly does know how to be devious and sneak it past the general population.

This is the way they get most of their agenda by everyone ... underhandedness and sneaky.

Not at all BUT people HAVE to DAILY READ the Federal Register
and Code of Federal Regulations!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Register

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_F ... egulations

(Both links are from wiki so anybody that wants to can look into both of them!!)

Back before I retired from the MO Air Program, I read both daily to keep up on what the EPA was doing!

The EPA is required by Law to publish all that it proposes to do so that it is OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT by people like us IF we bother to read and keep up on what it is doing!

pdq67

PS., the EPA can --

"Propose", i.e., promulgate new rules;

"Amend" or change existing rules; and

Do away with, or, "Rescind", existing rules.

And I have done all three things above at one time or another at the MO State Air Program because I was in the, "Planning Section", of the APCP that did this stuff. Know all about it..

Yea ... everybody gets a copy of the Federal Register every day and it is their responsibility to read every day the changes and new things in what the EPA is doing in trying to get things passed ... you bet.

[pdq67]

Walter,

That is the point because the people affected by what the EPA does/try's to do are on this stuff like, "fly's on sh*t!!"..

I have appeared before the MO Air Conservation Commission a lot of times presenting stuff and the only ones in the audience were people that were directly affected by what the EPA was trying to do, (as well as the State of MO because of EPA mandate).

Remember, don't bitch if you don't know what is going on!!

Our Gov. is out of control as you watch the, "Code of Federal Regulations", grow by 1,000's of pages annually!!

pdq67

[pdq67]

If industry in general, but especially the coal-fired power plants had done what it was supposed to do to keep our country livable, we wouldn't have the EPA.

BUT, the power plants made a, "handshake", agreement back in something like 1972 or so to clean up its act AND they didn't do it!!

That's when much later we ended up with Clean Air Act Amendment of 1990 that started to force the power plants to do what they said that they would!

You should have heard the screaming from the power plant people!!

Anybody remember that burning river in OH back years ago?? Well, its cleaned up now..

pdq67

[enigma57]

They certainly tried to slide it by everyone by putting in the regs for heavy vehicle laws. I guess they were hoping it was buried deep enough that someone wouldn't read and catch what they were definitely trying to intentionally do.

The backhanded EPA should be torn apart and abolished as it is ... and, something newly formed take its place.

Agree 100%, Walter except that I do not believe anything should replace it. EPA is just another government agency that has long since outlived any truly useful purpose and is now taking actions far beyond their original mandate...... Mainly to justify their own existence and to facilitate various power grabs and land grabs by the greenie pawns and their globalist masters!

FWIW...... I looked for that petition just now on the link provided. Couldn't find it. I did see these which seem like good ideas......

"Repeal the NFA"

"Declare George Soros a terrorist and seize all of his related organizations' assets under RICO and NDAA law"

"Impeach Nancy Pelosi for crimes of Treason!"

The latter petition falls short regarding its limited scope in my opinion, though. All those involved in the failed attempt to frame the President and anyone serving in his administration for the very thing Democrat political operatives were actually doing...... Should be brought to trial and justice done. Including those behind it all.

Just sayin'......

Harry

[gruntguru]

Same system they have in China, North Korea . . . .

Just sayin'