banjo wrote:I think all those who entered the contest should be commended. They are at the top of the industry for a reason and they must be doing something right there to have the success they have. I can appreciate not releasing the results of the bottom of the field. There are those that would use those results that did not enter the contest to condemn them. As stated before, you can't really judge a company from one bad showing. Lots of variables involved here. From the accounts that I have heard, it appears that all entries came with the intent to learn from this contest and they all worked together to solve issues. I think that is pretty cool that they could put the competition with other vendors aside and work together. There are a lot of vendors that missed out on a great opportunity to improve there own programs.
jmarkaudio wrote:So now that it's all over, the big question, what's in store for the 2012 Challenge? Any companies looking to supply engines yet? 2 barrel? 4150 only?
StanJ wrote:I've been thinking a bit more about the idea of a "gauge legal" 2-barrel class for the next Carb Shootout, and it occurred to me that there would be a unique aspect of such a competition above and beyond the obvious difference from this past year's basically "unlimited" concept. "Gauge legal" -- and the resulting inspection process to verify it -- would have to be defined in much greater detail that what we normally encounter at the tracks our customer's race at. The old subjective "Yeah, it hangs all of my gauges...and I can't point to anything specifically that's wrong with it...but I just don't think this carburetor looks right -- it's too...nice. You can't run it" situation that infuriates all of us who build these carbs couldn't be allowed to come up under any circumstances. The inspection process should be simple and clear, using readily available gauges (the set offered by BLP would be fine, since many tracks use them anyway), and be conducted in view of the other competitors, but without input or comments from them. All of us know what really goes into building a building a front-running gauge legal carb, and the shootout competitors would certainly represent the toughest group of "tech inspectors" ever assembled. I think the policy would almost have to be: If the gauges hang, you're golden...no ifs, ands, or buts.
Steve Zicht wrote:Has anybody come up with some cool ideas for this years Shoot Out ? How bout you Dave B. Thought about some interesting challenges to suggest to mike Laws ? SZ
Dave Braswell wrote:
Stan, you are wanting to take a contest that is a run whatca brung, open competition for all manufacturers and narrowing the field to a specialized market that only one manufacturers product can compete. There are enough licensed monopolies in motorsports as it is. They do nothing to reduce the cost of racing to the competitor or level the playing field. Their sole purpose is to exclude competition from what would be free market place, "restraint of trade" I believe is the formal phrase for it.
SchmidtMotorWorks wrote:Steve Zicht wrote:Has anybody come up with some cool ideas for this years Shoot Out ? How bout you Dave B. Thought about some interesting challenges to suggest to mike Laws ? SZ
How about Carb/Manifold combination?
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