Speaking of Mosin-Nagants

[machine shop tom]

Here's a humorous comparison of the AK, AR, and Mosin-Nagant weapons.

The AK would be the AK-47 family, the AR would include the AR-15, M-16, M-4, etc. and Mosin-Nagant would be the manliest of weapon families.

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinHumor.htm

tom

[Brian S]

That's a fairly accurate comparison.

[dwilliams]

There was also a pistol...

[machine shop tom]

There was also a pistol...

Uhh,,, YOU shoot it.

tom

[pdq67]

AK pistol, right.

A Rumanian AK-47 Draco Pistol.

I want one because it is a REAL pistol that fire's a REAL rifle bullet!

Even an AK or SKS with a folding wire stock doesn't have as short a barrel that it legally has.

pdq67

[mike walsh]

There was also a pistol...

Thanks, I needed coffee to come out of my nose this morning!

[machine shop tom]

AK pistol, right.

A Rumanian AK-47 Draco Pistol.

I want one because it is a REAL pistol that fire's a REAL rifle bullet!

Even an AK or SKS with a folding wire stock doesn't have as short a barrel that it legally has.

pdq67

Bah, is not peestol. Draco peestol shoot itty-bitty 7.63x39 round. Ees for wimmen. Muzzle energy of maybe 1400-1500 fpe. REAL rifle cartridge, 7.62x54r, has 2270 fpe at muzzle (AK-47 and M44 barrel length, respectively).

AK-47 Draco need many rounds to deal with zombies. THAT why 30 round magazeen.

Mosin-Nagant peestol need only 5 rounds for same effects, a moozle flame keel maybe 20 more zombies.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9 ... eJuAPt_e2Q

REEL MANLY way to start 100 meeter dash:

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/2083/6226c.jpg


tom

[machine shop tom]

The Mosin-Nagant M-44 carbine---manly gun.

"Mosin-Nagant M44
Speaking of guns without safeties, here's the Mosin-Nagant M44 Carbine from Russia. The Mosin was used by the Russians against the Finns, the Finns against the Russians, the Estonians against the Russians, the Russians against the Russians, and the Russians against the Germans. It does, in fact, have a safety, but it's quite hard to engage. But this is not a complaint one would ever voice in the Red Army. Your officer would reply, "Safety? Safety? Is gun! Meant to kill! No warrior should know he has safety on gun, because he should be killing enemies of homeland! Safety make loud click to aid enemy in locating warriors! No safety!" while pounding his fist on the table.

And the Mosin can kill enemies of homeland. The muzzle blast will vaporize green growth within a few feet of the muzzle, and even if you miss, the enemy will be reduced to shouting "WHAT?" to communicate. You'll need a recoil pad or shooting jacket. Ordinarily, this might be considered unmanly, but this rifle has a short stock for using while wearing several layers of wool for a Russian winter. It is acceptable to wear padding to fire a Mosin.

Of course, there are also M38, 91/30 and other variations of Mosin-Nagant and all are cool. All, also (except the M38), come with a bayonet. Russian doctrine held that the bayonet was mounted except while traveling in a vehicle, because the Russians understood that an empty rifle could still be a pointy stick—a Viking spear. The Russians loved to spear Turks. So, coincidentally, did the Vikings. This rifle sounds better all the time, doesn't it? The Finns used the Mosin as a sniper rifle during the Winter War, and their greatest Sniper was Simo Häyhä, who had 500 confirmed kills in 100 days. This is a man the Finns describe as "modest" and "self-effacing." It's a good thing the Russians didn't run into a Finn who was proud and arrogant. They'd have been wiped out.

It fires a 7.62X54R (for "Rimmed") cartridge, about as powerful as .30-06, and holds the distinction of being in service from 1891 to the present, longer than any other military cartridge. It is still used in Dragunovs, PKMs and other Russian weapons. It's cheap in quantity. So are the rifles, because they were built for (all variations) over 70 years, by Russia, Finland, Poland, Romania, even the US. As I write this, arsenal-new M44s are $55 to $200. At that price, you should have several, so any guests you have during the Collapse can be outfitted as they receive Enlightenment. Then they can rape, kill, sack and loot with the rest of the men who secure a new Dark Ages to hasten the new renaissance. It will be a manly duty."

[pdq67]

Tom,

Point me to the $55+ M44's and I will take a couple to three day's A/L and drive over and buy two!

Buy a carbine for MO whitetails and a long-barreled long distance Elk-killing rifle for out west.

And I am serious as a heart attack here!!

pdq67

[machine shop tom]

Tom,

Point me to the $55+ M44's and I will take a couple to three day's A/L and drive over and buy two!

Buy a carbine for MO whitetails and a long-barreled long distance Elk-killing rifle for out west.

And I am serious as a heart attack here!!

pdq67

That article was written some years ago................

You can still buy the rifles, M91/30s, for around 80-90 bucks at Dunham's, Big 5s, and similar stores. If I were to choose a carbine to hunt with, I'd opt for an M38 or M91/59. The bayonet on the M44s is just dead weight and accuracy isn't a given with them. I've slugged the bores on all my Mosins and they range from .312"-.316", with the M44 being the worst, the M91/59 the best. Here is a good site that has a lot of info on the Mosin-Nagant rifles:

http://7.62x54r.net/

tom