Bought a new camshaft - must be a new design for BBC

Truckracer · Post by **Truckracer** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:45 am

Easier to install if they are two piece..

OldSStroker · Post by **OldSStroker** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:08 am

Bummer!

Even cast cams take a lot to snap them if they are properly made.

I hope there was more stuff in that box and especially more firm packing material.

The "Fragile" warning was inside, not on the outside of the carton. Evidently the carrier x-rayed, found the "Fragile" and then mishandled it.

FWIW, I don't recall seeing "FRAGILE" (fra-GEE-lee) labels on cam boxes. What brand?

Cigar if you immediately recognize the source for the "fra-GEE-lee" pronounciation.

Jon

Truckracer · Post by **Truckracer** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:28 am

In the box with the cam was some intake gaskets, bottle of cam break in lube and the lifters. Every thing was on the bottom of the box with those liitle air pillows stuffed in the top to take up the slack...
It's a Summit brand cam..

OldSStroker · Post by **OldSStroker** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:38 am

Truckracer wrote:In the box with the cam was some intake gaskets, bottle of cam break in lube and the lifters. Every thing was on the bottom of the box with those liitle air pillows stuffed in the top to take up the slack...
It's a Summit brand cam..

I was hoping there weren't air pilows in there. They suck for packing dense parts. We've seen heads packed with air pillows that needed hundreds of $ worth of welding and machining to fix the damage from shipping. You might just as well tie a tag to the casting and not even pack it in a box. At least they wouldn't be banging into each other. Cams in a cam box and no other packing usually get thru unscathed.

I hope it wasn't a Summit shipment but the paperwork looks familiar.

Even in a recession it's hard to find good workers!

Jon

stank468 · Post by **stank468** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:52 am

" A Christmas Story "

Post by **CamKing** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:12 pm

You'd think Summit would take it out of the Camshaft Machine Company box, and re-box it. That's the box the cam was shipped to Summit in. They're not the best quality.

fastvette · Post by **fastvette** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:56 pm

CamKing wrote:They're not the best quality.

As in the core or the grind job?

Randy

Post by **CamKing** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:02 pm

fastvette wrote:
CamKing wrote:They're not the best quality.
As in the core or the grind job?

Randy

Sorry,

The Box is not of the best quality.

OldSStroker · Post by **OldSStroker** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:17 pm

stank468 wrote:" A Christmas Story "

Of course!

Keith Morganstein · Post by **Keith Morganstein** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:55 pm

Shipping cam and lifter kits can be an adventure.

Just think how far you can throw a camshaft "javelin style" into a semi-trailer or UPS truck. That cam is a battering ram and will try bust out of the box.

I sold hundreds of cam kits over a two year period (my apologies to the real cam guys) Packaging was a big issue as I did not have much control over shipping materials.

The best the shipper could do with materials on hand was tape and reinforce the cam box, package the lifters in boxes of four, then pack the triangular style UPS box with the processed cardbord packing. There was still too much damage.

Mike Jones knows how to pack a cam and lifters. His packaging looks very tough.

enigma57 · Post by **enigma57** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:59 am

Truckracer wrote:Easier to install if they are two piece..

Ouch! UPS really had to put a hurtin' on that box to do damage like that, Truckracer! Hope they make it right for you and without your having to wait months for a resolution.

The only cam I ever busted was my own fault. 1967 - Home on leave, partied too much, missed a shift in my '57 Ford and floated the valves in a 292 Y-block engine whilst racing my buddy, who had a '58 Chevy with the 348 tri-power engine.

Got the jump on him off the line. I was pulling him half a car length. Wound her up too tight. Blew the 1 - 2 shift. Put a valve through a piston and broke the cam in half right behind the 2nd lobe. Yea verily...... It sucketh much!

Best regards,

Harry

falcongeorge · Post by **falcongeorge** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:08 am

They are usually just bent .010 when I get them, not actually broken!!

Post by **CamKing** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:04 pm

Keith Morganstein wrote: Mike Jones knows how to pack a cam and lifters. His packaging looks very tough.

Yet UPS still breaks 2 or 3 a year for me.

The roller cams just get bent, but it really doesn't take much to break a cast iron cam.
I just gave a demonstration for a guy that work for me. We needed to send a piece of a cast cam to a metallurgist, and he was going to saw it.
I took the cam, held it straight out at arms length, and dropped it. Presto, a nice clean break right after the second journal.

I had a customer that was so tired of UPS bending and breaking his cams, he sent me a wooden box he made just for shipping his cams.
I like the 6" tubes with the foam inserts that Comp Cams uses. They're a little much for the average cam, but I bet they don't break any.

falcongeorge · Post by **falcongeorge** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:42 pm

As an aside to this, usually when you straighten them there is some base circle run-out. I have been told that this can affect idle quality.

Keith Morganstein · Post by **Keith Morganstein** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:43 pm

CamKing wrote: I had a customer that was so tired of UPS bending and breaking his cams, he sent me a wooden box he made just for shipping his cams.
I like the 6" tubes with the foam inserts that Comp Cams uses. They're a little much for the average cam, but I bet they don't break any.

Caterpillar uses a cardboard and wood combination that works well. Two sides and the ends are wood, the two other sides are heavy cardboard stapled on.

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Bought a new camshaft - must be a new design for BBC

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