My father purchased a 427 ford side oiler block from eBay. The block in the past has been welded in the lifter valley on both sides above the lifter bores, due to freeze cracks. He was told it passed a pressure test to 35 lb and the block has never been bored. He brought the block to a local machine shop in Santa Cruz ca, to have everything checked over.
The block did not pass pressure test, both sides have leaks at the welded area, the block has already been bored 30 over and will need another 30 to clean up. Cylinders 3-5 will probably need a sleeve. This engine is for a '64 ford galaxie stock type build. The only change from stock in the plans was a modern piston, lunatis version of the 425hp cam and a set of headers.
Does anyone know of a shop somewhat local that can make the repairs to the cast iron block, or advise whether or not this may be a fruitless task. Thank you
Repairing cast iron block in California
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needforspeed66gt
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Re: Repairing cast iron block in California
I just did one of those for a Galaxie as well with extensive repairs needed due to it's history as a race car with some blow ups....I'll send you some photos.
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Try QMP racing or Nelson they might do it? Mike Stark a possibility
Rest of the big names out here wouldnt trust.
Valley head Service a possibility also. The above poster sounds like he can handle it. ...sure wish I knew how!
Rest of the big names out here wouldnt trust.
Valley head Service a possibility also. The above poster sounds like he can handle it. ...sure wish I knew how!
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Here is a photo from the listing
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Good to know, thank youexhaustgases wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 2:28 pm There is a old guy that has been doing cast iron welding in Marysville Wa like forever, that is the best of the best, he fixed a head one time for an industrial diesel engine that the boss owned, you could not tell it was welded, and the damage was a good size chunk missing in a combustion chamber.
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Yes the guy in Marysville is Mike, he's definitely the best I've seen.
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Seller lied, return it. Ebay will support you because the seller was deceiving.sidestep wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 12:50 pm My father purchased a 427 ford side oiler block from eBay. The block in the past has been welded in the lifter valley on both sides above the lifter bores, due to freeze cracks. He was told it passed a pressure test to 35 lb and the block has never been bored. He brought the block to a local machine shop in Santa Cruz ca, to have everything checked over.
The block did not pass pressure test, both sides have leaks at the welded area, the block has already been bored 30 over and will need another 30 to clean up. Cylinders 3-5 will probably need a sleeve. This engine is for a '64 ford galaxie stock type build. The only change from stock in the plans was a modern piston, lunatis version of the 425hp cam and a set of headers.
Does anyone know of a shop somewhat local that can make the repairs to the cast iron block, or advise whether or not this may be a fruitless task. Thank you
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X2 - send it back ASAP. Don't throw a ton of good money after bad. That is a total POS and only worth the investment if it were a numbers-matching car you bought new and had owned all this time.
Jack Vines
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He contacted the seller after the shop explained what the block would need and was told the purchase was not quaranteed,as is and they had no first hand knowledge of the block. Basically tough shit. Thank you for an honest answer.
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Contact EBAY...the sale is guaranteed if the seller didnt lie. What you stated is the seller lied. No sale.sidestep wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:54 pm
He contacted the seller after the shop explained what the block would need and was told the purchase was not quaranteed,as is and they had no first hand knowledge of the block. Basically tough shit. Thank you for an honest answer.
Contact Ebay and say what I just did. If they find in your favor you are free of it. If not, you're in the same allot but at least you tried.
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Ron Grose Racing in Lodi, CA is up by you. If nothing else they might know who to contact in the NORCAL area.
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Here is the eBay listing; it did not take much effort to find it: https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-FORD-4 ... 7675.l2557
VINTAGE FORD 427 SIDE OILER ENGINE BLOCK
CAST # 66-427
DATE CODE LOOKS LIKE 2F9
BORE IS 4.250....NO SLEEVES
WE DO NOT KNOW HISTORY ...
WAS TOLD SOME WATER FROZE IN IT AND WAS REPAIRED ...
& EVERYTHING ELSE LOOKED GOOD ...
CAN NOT SEE ANY OTHER ISSUES ...
CYLINDER WALLS LOOK NICE ...
THEY HAVE A THIN LAYER OF GREASE ON THEM SO THEY WILL NOT RUST
SOLD AS IS NO WARRANTY
EMAIL FOR SHIPPING QUOTE ...
FREIGHT MAY SHIP FASTENAL FREIGHT ... FASTENAL TO FASTENAL
YOU WILL NEED TO PICK UP AT YOUR LOCAL FASTENAL OR FEDEX ...
WILL BE SHRINK WRAPPED ON SKID
SEE OUR OTHER ITEMS
MAKE SURE THIS IS CORRECT FOR YOUR RIDE BEFORE YOU BID
EMAIL WITH QUESTIONS......SOLD AS IS.....NO RESERVE
On Apr-20-19 at 09:17:18 PDT, seller added the following information:
THERE IS A YOUTUBE VIDEO OF THE PREVIOUS OWNER TALKING ABOUT THIS BLOCK THAT YOU MAY FIND INTERESTING....TOWARDS END OF VIDEO
COPY AND PASTE AND SCROLL DOWN TO BUS TOUR.
https://youtu.be/fxKJPOXa-ss
https://www.semasan.com/breaking-news-archives?utm_campaign=DrivingForce_DF272&utm_content=SeeAllLeg
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Kevin, thanks for posting the listing. I'm sure some of that was overlooked due to ignorance and anxiousness due to price. I truly believe he was under the impression the stock bore was 4.25, messaged the seller and all.
He spoke with the seller, and he is talking things over with his associate, I doubt highly my father will bring eBay into this.
Regardless, the post is about making the block a useable piece, or finding an alternative to an oe block
He spoke with the seller, and he is talking things over with his associate, I doubt highly my father will bring eBay into this.
Regardless, the post is about making the block a useable piece, or finding an alternative to an oe block